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tjdjsmitty
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Posted - 11/29/2005 : 09:22:25 AM
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My wife refuses to take part in nudism in any way. Not even at home. She finally has told me I could go on nudist outings such as bowling etc., but has no plans on joining me ever. My question is this.... If your partner refuses to join you even fully clothed, do you still go? I want to start enjoying being nude with others socially but not sure if I will (enjoy) without her. We spend all our time out of work together. We do everything together except for being nude. I have been to 2 resorts in the past without her knowing and enjoyed it but felt like a third wheel.
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Cheri
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Posted - 11/29/2005 : 10:48:24 AM
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Tom, Would she join you if she could stay clothed?
If my husband doesn't like attending one of our events, I am there solo. We do almost everything together as it's generally more fun with a partner, but we are not connected at the hip.
Hugs, Cheri
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ah2benude
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Posted - 11/29/2005 : 10:59:42 AM
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tjdsmitty,I know exactly how you feel. My wife went once with me to a nudist club. I think she did it just so I wouldn't bug her anymore about going. We've been married for 23 years and I doubt if I could ever get her to change her mind, so I just let it be.
Over the summer, my wife and I went to Florida on our on one of our trips to Disney, but this time without our children. We rent the same house every time with a nice private pool. Needless to say,I spent every waking moment nude in the house and out by the pool. With a little coaxing, my wife joined me nude and we had the most wonderful time. For the first couple of days she set the table, did her ironing all in the nude.
Then, a family moved in next door. When my wife heard the children splashing about in their pool, well, that was the end of that. Even with the privacy of the tall bushes that separate the properties, she stopped going nude for the rest of our trip. Since we've gotten back, my wife has not mentioned a word about our experience together.
I go to the nudist club all the time alone. I usually call my wife as soon as I get there, and the first thing she says to me is "are you having fun?" Weird, isn't it? I too, sometimes feel like a third wheel when being there alone and sometimes sad that my wife isn't there with me especially when there are so many couples having fun together.
My advice to you smitty, is to go and have a good time. Once people get to know you, like in my case being married to a non-nudist wife, the couples are very nice to me knowing that it is difficult for many women.
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tjdjsmitty
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Posted - 11/29/2005 : 11:33:02 AM
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Cheri, No she will not go at all. She doesn't disapprove she's just not comfortable being in the company of nude people. She honestly doubts she ever will be. I'm going bowling in January with CSC and I will have a good time. Just wondering how others deal with the "solo" part of it. I'm very excited that she agreed to let me go even if by myself. She has a hard time just thinking of me being nude in front of other people.
Tom Smith
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tjdjsmitty
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Posted - 11/29/2005 : 11:38:47 AM
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Thanks for the support. I'll be married 27 years this month. I'd be happy if she would just meet the others at bowling. She knows she could wear clothes but she no budge.
quote: Originally posted by ah2benude
tjdsmitty,I know exactly how you feel. My wife went once with me to a nudist club. I think she did it just so I wouldn't bug her anymore about going. We've been married for 23 years and I doubt if I could ever get her to change her mind, so I just let it be.
Over the summer, my wife and I went to Florida on our on one of our trips to Disney, but this time without our children. We rent the same house every time with a nice private pool. Needless to say,I spent every waking moment nude in the house and out by the pool. With a little coaxing, my wife joined me nude and we had the most wonderful time. For the first couple of days she set the table, did her ironing all in the nude.
Then, a family moved in next door. When my wife heard the children splashing about in their pool, well, that was the end of that. Even with the privacy of the tall bushes that separate the properties, she stopped going nude for the rest of our trip. Since we've gotten back, my wife has not mentioned a word about our experience together.
I go to the nudist club all the time alone. I usually call my wife as soon as I get there, and the first thing she says to me is "are you having fun?" Weird, isn't it? I too, sometimes feel like a third wheel when being there alone and sometimes sad that my wife isn't there with me especially when there are so many couples having fun together.
My advice to you smitty, is to go and have a good time. Once people get to know you, like in my case being married to a non-nudist wife, the couples are very nice to me knowing that it is difficult for many women.
Tom Smith
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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 11/29/2005 : 12:45:01 PM
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Tom,
I think going to a nude resort "without her knowing" is a recipe for disaster. Your deception will lead her to assume the worst when (not if) she eventually figures it out. Social nudity isn't worth lying, even by omission. Consider how you'd feel if you found out she was sneaking off to a nudist resort.
Also ... I'm having a bit of difficulty getting my mind around the whole notion of Nude Bowling. The visual I get of a naked man in bowling shoes is so hysterical, I doubt I could keep score. But that's just my limitation, I guess.
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tjdjsmitty
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Posted - 11/29/2005 : 1:11:06 PM
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Hey Doc, Let me clarify....I went, but I told her afterwards. As far as bowling goes, I thought true nudists don't "look" but rather accept each other as is. I'm sure nudists wear shoes or sandals to the beach, do they look funny?
Tomquote: Originally posted by NaturistDoc
Tom,
I think going to a nude resort "without her knowing" is a recipe for disaster. Your deception will lead her to assume the worst when (not if) she eventually figures it out. Social nudity isn't worth lying, even by omission. Consider how you'd feel if you found out she was sneaking off to a nudist resort.
Also ... I'm having a bit of difficulty getting my mind around the whole notion of Nude Bowling. The visual I get of a naked man in bowling shoes is so hysterical, I doubt I could keep score. But that's just my limitation, I guess.
Tom Smith
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FireProf
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Posted - 11/29/2005 : 1:20:57 PM
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Smitty,
I've got to agree with the Doc here. I don't think it's a good idea going to a resort without her knowing.
The most troubling of this issue, is her reluctance to practice nudism with you at home. We all often hear of a male nudist with a reluctant partner and their first question is how to get them to go to a social nude place for their first encounter.
I think you should work on her to accept non sexual nudity at home first. She's not going to ever join you at a social nude venue if she's not going to at least be open minded enough to be naked at home with you.
It isn't a hopeless case. My wife was willing to be naked at home since we were married, so I didn't have to work on that aspect. She did, however, state repeatedly that social nudism was absolutely out for her. It took years of patience and building her self esteem to get her to visit the beach first. I understand that they aren't many nude beaches and maybe none where you are, but non sexual nudity needs to start at home first and not at social nude gatherings with a reluctant partner. My wife now plans and books us on nude trips all the time, even if it's just for the day. So there is hope.
My only advice would be to take a few steps back and try and get her to join you at home with nudity, watching TV, eating, reading, sleeping, all that other stuff before you introduce her into the social nudism circle.
Good luck and much patience.
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tjdjsmitty
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Posted - 11/29/2005 : 1:50:12 PM
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Thanks for the advice. I've tried everything. She will not be a nudist in any way shape or form. She did try once and got dressed after an hour and a half. I have no problem going solo as long as others find it proper. I'm sure I will make friends. I just want to know that it's okay.quote: Originally posted by FireProf
Smitty,
I've got to agree with the Doc here. I don't think it's a good idea going to a resort without her knowing.
The most troubling of this issue, is her reluctance to practice nudism with you at home. We all often hear of a male nudist with a reluctant partner and their first question is how to get them to go to a social nude place for their first encounter.
I think you should work on her to accept non sexual nudity at home first. She's not going to ever join you at a social nude venue if she's not going to at least be open minded enough to be naked at home with you.
It isn't a hopeless case. My wife was willing to be naked at home since we were married, so I didn't have to work on that aspect. She did, however, state repeatedly that social nudism was absolutely out for her. It took years of patience and building her self esteem to get her to visit the beach first. I understand that they aren't many nude beaches and maybe none where you are, but non sexual nudity needs to start at home first and not at social nude gatherings with a reluctant partner. My wife now plans and books us on nude trips all the time, even if it's just for the day. So there is hope.
My only advice would be to take a few steps back and try and get her to join you at home with nudity, watching TV, eating, reading, sleeping, all that other stuff before you introduce her into the social nudism circle.
Good luck and much patience.
Tom Smith
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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 11/29/2005 : 2:16:33 PM
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A couple of personal opinions, and then I'll pipe down.
One thing I've learned about marriage: you've definitely got to pick your battles. Personally, I enjoy social nudism, and I'm grateful that my wife does too. But if she came to me tomorrow and said that she'd never really liked it and didn't want to do it any more, I don't think I'd spend a lot of time trying to convince her to give it another try. Nor, I suspect, would I take a stand on my right (?) to go solo. In the grand scheme of things, it's just not that important ... is it?
As for the vitally important issue of the aesthetics of nudity and bowling shoes, I'm sticking to my guns. I support everyone's right to nude bowling; I might even join you some time. However, I reserve the right to dissolve into helpless giggling. But I solemnly promise not to point.
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tjdjsmitty
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Posted - 11/29/2005 : 5:38:46 PM
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Fair enough!
quote: Originally posted by NaturistDoc
A couple of personal opinions, and then I'll pipe down.
One thing I've learned about marriage: you've definitely got to pick your battles. Personally, I enjoy social nudism, and I'm grateful that my wife does too. But if she came to me tomorrow and said that she'd never really liked it and didn't want to do it any more, I don't think I'd spend a lot of time trying to convince her to give it another try. Nor, I suspect, would I take a stand on my right (?) to go solo. In the grand scheme of things, it's just not that important ... is it?
As for the vitally important issue of the aesthetics of nudity and bowling shoes, I'm sticking to my guns. I support everyone's right to nude bowling; I might even join you some time. However, I reserve the right to dissolve into helpless giggling. But I solemnly promise not to point.
Tom Smith
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NudeAl
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Posted - 11/29/2005 : 10:54:31 PM
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I went through a similar thing with my own wife.
I went she didn't for years! I took the kids along whenever I could and we had a great time. We would come back home and tell her how good a time we had etc. Finally I got her to go one year by asking her to it for my birthday as a present to me. She went griping and grumbling the whole way there. Once there it took an hour or so for her to relax and get nude but she did. She even admited to having a good time. We eventually joined the club and went there once or twice a month in the summer. We have let out membership slide but we still go out there 5-6 times a year as a family. I have a nearby nude beach that I go to more frequently but alone.
I say do whatever feels right for you. I know I couldn't quit being a nudist it's part of who I am. I really appreciate it when my wife will come along but I will still go without her.
"The best dress for walking is nakedness." Colin Fletcher
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pilot
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Posted - 11/30/2005 : 7:30:54 PM
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Have to agree with NaturistDoc on the importance of spousal harmony--takes precedence over just about everything.
For what it's worth, context may matter a great deal to your spouse. Whether you see an environment as safe and welcoming (another 250 people who you've never met before on a [nude] beach) and whether you spouse shares that view are separate questions. She may be more comfortable in a setting (such as a smaller, spa-like resort) where the nudity is incidental and there is not intense pressure to join into an activity.
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ah2benude
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Posted - 12/01/2005 : 09:54:42 AM
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tjjdjsmitty,
Perhaps I was a little quick to respond. I assumed that your wife knew about your visits to the resorts, but after rereading your posts, she only knows of you bowling night. NaturistDoc is right. Going without her knowing could lead to some problems.
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ah2benude
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Posted - 12/01/2005 : 10:04:41 AM
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Cheri,
Thank you for your post about not being connected at the hip. I think that most couples at a nudist club understand the problems of a single at a club, being married to a non-nudist partner. Knowing that, from now I'll try not feeling like a third wheel either. Thanks again.
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sunfun1175
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Posted - 12/07/2005 : 3:37:49 PM
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I have a similar problem too with my wife. She went with me on the first couple of visits to our nudist resort. Each time we went she said that she had a good time. For the next couple of years, she allowed me to go solo as she was busy babysitting the grandkids. Then all of sudden she refusing to go and objects for me going. I tried several times to talk to her but she get mad so I drop it. I'm unable to go naked around the house as her 90 year dad moved in with us. Everytime I see her naked I tell how beautiful she is. My birthday is coming up in March, I'm going to suggest as a present to join me at our resort. Thanks everyone for sharing their delimmas
ELH
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