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Admin
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 Posted - 03/28/2003 : 12:34:17 PM
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This website presents a growing viewpoint among Christians that nudism is proper and Biblically acceptable.
http://www.nudistweb.net/~wholesome/
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Marked4Life
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Posted - 04/05/2003 : 4:11:56 PM
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Wonderful article! I have to agree totally with the part that stated....."Think about this: If nudity were common, and there were no 'forbidden zones' to view with either sex, what would happen to the pornography market? Wouldn't you think that it would dry up? By reinforcing cultural problems with nudity being equal to sex -- that is, parents teaching children that nudity is evil and making it equal to "sin" -- haven't parents actually FUELED the pornography market?
To eliminate the temptation of pornography, why don't we teach that our bodies are not sinful and not shameful?? Why not participate in social nudism to accustom ourselves to wholesome, everyday nudity?"
Prior to discovering this website I was cetain that all nudists were engged in perverse acts. My main objective of signing on to the website was to "convert the heathens" Well.... I am the one who was converted. The folks here, the information that was readily available was truthful, honest and not censored. They didn't skip over the "delicate" subjects which might cast a bad image. All aspects including sexuality were addressed in a mature and sensible manner. This type of honesty and openess should be commended. This is truely a resource which speaks well of the Nudist Lifestyle.
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eva-germany
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Posted - 07/27/2003 : 03:15:37 AM
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Normally I would not go near a religious site anymore because of to much of a polarized view, but I am very grateful for this link.
It is very well done and should be one of the starting points for all who want to discover the meaning behind nudism / naturism.
Again, thank you!
Webmistress of The Openminded Nudist Board
and the world only thymoma cancer site http://thymoma.de
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eva-germany
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Posted - 07/27/2003 : 03:35:03 AM
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dear Admin
here is an idea: change the topic from this post.
Add something with sex in it, because it is a shame how seldom this post is read, but like me, it does not sound like something the most folks are interested in and since Marked4life likes it and the old post from him are polarized in a way monst people don't like, they would not touch the link.
hey Mark
I wondered what changed your view, because in your new posts, you are much more likable. The attitude of your old posts are one of the reasons, why I don,t care for religion anymore. In Germany we have a phrase what describes religion very well (at least the more agressive religious folks)
"und willst du nicht mein bruder sein, so schlag ich dir den Schädel ein"
Translation:
"and if you don't want to be my brother, I'll brain you"
I don't know if I translated right, I meant to bash in your brain.
I think religion was very well covered from John Lennon in IMAGINE
Imagine
Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...
Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...
Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.
Webmistress of The Openminded Nudist Board
and the world only thymoma cancer site http://thymoma.de
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Kimberly
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Posted - 09/14/2003 : 04:08:22 AM
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Thanks, I enjoyed the article and think it was very well written. I am Christian, and I do not feel that nudity is against my faith, however some in my congregation would disagree. I look at the diffence in the way nudity is accepted in Europe as opposed to the US and Canada. Nudity is more accepted in Europe, you see people nude on beaches, sunning nude in the parks, and there is full frontal nudity on TV. It is my opion that there are less attacts against women in Europe than the US and Canada be cause nudity is not something dirty in Europe as it is in the US and Canda.
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sea foam
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Posted - 09/23/2003 : 03:48:33 AM
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I'll have to read that article sometime. Here is my $.02 for now:
The notion that the naked body is "evil" or sinful actually originates in Platonic asceticism and was merely adopted by Christian Platonists early in church history (and passed down). Platonism is dualistic; it proposes a realm of Forms (pure ideas) and Matter. The realm of pure ideas is "good" and the realm of matter is "evil." Applied to a doctrine of man, then, the soul is necessarily "good" and the body is "evil." This is the view of mainline Protestantism, which is concerned with a theology of perfectionism (a Platonic notion), and of Roman Catholicism (which is largely Aristotelian but ascetic nonetheless). That explains why this view is predominate in our culture. By contrast, pure Christianity (i.e., biblical Christianity) is concerned with the human intent behind thoughts, words, and deeds. Jesus' summation of the Law, therefore, was not "be perfect" or even "be clothed," but "love the Lord your God...and your neighbor as yourself."
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Kimberly
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Posted - 09/23/2003 : 08:53:19 AM
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Well said sea foam, I tend to agree with you.
Kim =^.^=
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chic
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Posted - 09/24/2003 : 4:30:47 PM
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Many religions say we are made in the image of God. That being said,the human body is to be admired in its original state,that is, nude. Therefore nudity itself isn't evil. It's what people do with their body in certain situations,e.g. pornography, that creates the evil.
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calmnude
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Posted - 09/24/2003 : 6:34:49 PM
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in almost any religion that i have read anything about, the creator made everything good. one philosophy i cannot remember says that all of us are born good. we were born nude, therefore nude is good.
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chic
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Posted - 09/24/2003 : 10:35:18 PM
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Calmnude,
I think we're on the same page. There is nothing wrong with being nude, it is that just that non-believers try to make it wrong or evil. It's them not us !
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sea foam
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Posted - 09/25/2003 : 01:23:01 AM
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What presents a real difficulty for some Christians (et al.) is that they may truly appreciate the human form as a beautiful work of God and enjoy nudism, but they have to hold back for the sake of those who deem nakedness (outside a bath or a visit to the doctor, etc.) sinful. Depending on the denomination and individual congregation, a Christian nudist may risk being at least socially ostracised if "word gets out." It is even more difficult for clergy, who are held to a higher (impossible?) standard and who don't want anything they do to elicit disrespect for, or disbelief in, God.
sea foam
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Paul1011
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Posted - 09/25/2003 : 8:00:52 PM
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It is a real challenge for Christians to be open about naturist activities with people at church. We are very active in our congregation but hesitate from expressing ourselves about naturism. If we were asked about it, we wouldn't hesitate to explain our participation in the AANR or resorts we attend. We are not really trying to hide anything. On the other hand, I am sure it would stir up a lot of controversy in the church.
Since we don't really talk about it around our friends, the subject is somewhat confusing to our kids who see nothing wrong with going naked. It would be a whole lot easier if Christians in general would lighten up on this subject.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 09/27/2003 : 08:50:38 AM
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The Church like most of society, can not separate nudity from sex. We as nudists enjoy socializing in an atmosphere free of clothes an inhibitions. Some among us are nudists for sexual reasons and I think the Church and society see that part, and not the true part of naturism.
Kim =^.^=
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sea foam
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Posted - 10/03/2003 : 6:57:53 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Kimberly
The Church like most of society, can not separate nudity from sex. We as nudists enjoy socializing in an atmosphere free of clothes an inhibitions. Some among us are nudists for sexual reasons and I think the Church and society see that part, and not the true part of naturism.
Kim =^.^=
Exactly. I recall the national backlash a few years ago when a Christian nudist group went public. The general assumption was that they were trying to demean Christianity by using it to justify something illicit, when they were really only celebrating their openness and freedom.
sea foam
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Jochanaan
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Posted - 07/22/2004 : 12:23:26 PM
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And we can't really talk about it, since the moment we mention something positive about nudity, it's assumed that we just want to justify some lust or perversion. Even those who might be sympathetic to us bring up the "causing your brother to stumble" Bible verse. I find it easier to justify my occasional glass of wine than even to bring up the subject of nudity!
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calmnude
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Posted - 07/30/2004 : 05:14:56 AM
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It all depends on whom you are discussing the issue with.
Folks you might think are stuffy about nudity will come up with a line like,
"oh, yeah, did a lot of skinnydippping as a kid." or
"The wife/gf.bf/husband and I went to a nude beach on our last vacation and it was really cool."
And women are more likely to talk about it among themselves than men or in mixed company. There also seems to be reluctance on the male side to be against public nudity out of insecurity or jealousy.
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