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nudistsarewrong
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 Posted - 06/18/2003 : 6:01:16 PM
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You people make me sick. You say God doesn't mind you going nude and all. Let me ask you this, WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? Did Jesus ever run around nude? NO. And should we live like Jesus? YES. 1 John 2:6 - "Those who say they Live in God, should live the lives as Christ did."
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Cheri
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Posted - 06/18/2003 : 6:36:25 PM
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Nudists accept others for who they are and not what you look like own or wear. Christianity supports Naturism
Genesis 1:27-The (naked) human body, created by God, in God's own
image, is basically decent, not inherently impure or sinful. The human body was created by God, and God can create no evil. It is made in God's image, and the image of God is entirely pure and good.
Genesis 1:31-God saw that everything, including naked Adam and Eve,
was good.
Genesis 3:7-Many scholars interpret the wearing of fig leaves as a
continuation and expansion of the original sin, not a positive moral
reaction to it. Hugh Kilmer explains: "Man wanted to put his life within his own control rather than God's, so first he took the power of self-determination (knowledge of good and evil). Next, finding his body was not within his control, he controlled it artificially by hiding it. After he was expelled from paradise, he began to hunt and eat animals; then to gain complete control over other people, by killing them (the story of Cain and Abel)."
Genesis 3:10-Many scholars believe that Adam and Eve's sense of shame
came not from their nakedness, which God had created and called good, but
from their knowledge of having disobeyed God.
An innate, God-given sense of shame related to nakedness is contradicted by the existence of numerous indigenous societies in which nudity is the rule and a sense of shame is totally absent, and by the lack of shame felt by naked children.
Genesis 3:11-It was disobedience that came between Adam and Eve and God, not nakedness. The scriptures themselves treat Adam and Eve's nudity as
an incidental issue. Robert Bahr observes that "when Adam and Eve disobeyed God, they grew ashamed of what they had done and attempted to hide themselves from God, who was not the least bit concerned with their nakedness but was mightily unhappy with their disobedience." Herb Seal notes that God provided a covering by slaying an innocent animal: the first prototype of the innocent one slain to act as a "covering" for sinners.
Genesis 3:21-God made garments of skins for Adam, but the Bible does not say the state of nakedness is being condemned. Because of the Fall, Adam
and Eve were no longer in Eden and were thus subject to the varieties of
weather and climate, and God knew they would need clothes. God loved and
cared for them even after they had sinned.
To assume that because God made garments He was condemning nudity makes
as much sense as concluding that because God made clouds which blot out the sun He was condemning sunshine.
Genesis 9:22-24-Noah was both drunk and naked, but Ham was the one who
was cursed-when he dishonored his father, by calling attention to Noah's
state, and making light of it. The shame of Noah's "nakedness" was much more than just being undressed. It was his dehumanized, drunken stupor which was shameful. Ham's offense was not merely seeing his father in this shameful state, but gossiping about it, effectively destroying Noah's reputation, cultural status, and authority as a father figure. In the story, Shem and Japheth were blessed for coming to the defense of their father's honor. Rather than joining Ham in his boasting, they reverently covered their father's shame.
Exodus 20:26-The Priest's nakedness was not to be exposed because it would create dissonance between his social role, in which he was to be seen as sexually neutral, and his biological status as a sexual being. The Priest's costume represented his social role; to be exposed in that context would be inappropriate and distracting.Rita Poretsky writes: "Personhood, original sexual energy, and physical nakedness may be either in synchrony with social institutions or in disharmony. . . . Nakedness is a nakedness of self in a social context, not just a nakedness of body." On the other hand, it was quite appropriate for
David to dance essentially naked in public to celebrate the return of the
Ark of the Covena
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flash
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Posted - 06/24/2003 : 8:16:49 PM
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My reply to nudistsarewrong is, if we make you sick why are you here? If you really want to get sick there are much easier wasy than antagonizing people who wish you no harm and really don't even care about your existence. So why is it that you want to endanger your health my making yourslef sick. If you don't like the show on your TV do you continue to watch it?
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chuckie30
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Posted - 06/28/2003 : 4:23:31 PM
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Hi Cheri, I dont think anyone could have said it better. Well done. How about posting that at the reject shame web-site?
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Cheri
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Posted - 06/29/2003 : 10:46:27 AM
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Chuckie, You are welcome to post it. Just cite its original location is from a treatise on TNS's website as I did.
Hugs, Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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Marked4Life
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Posted - 07/07/2003 : 7:02:24 PM
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Dear nudistarewrong
Open your mind a bit before you condemn. The act of nudism isn't perverse or wrong. It is natural. It's what lies in people minds that makes the idea perverse. Read thru the site a few days.
Marked4life
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Marked4Life
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Posted - 07/07/2003 : 7:05:32 PM
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Quite honestly I don't think God gives Nudism a second thought. Its all nature and to God nature is good.
I wonder what God thinks of those who condemn their fellow men before thinking and learning. I bet he shakes his head.
Read thru the site for a few days..... learn...... open your heart....
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Alan Brooks
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Posted - 08/02/2003 : 5:38:26 PM
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God is a black female- and she approves of nudity.
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paint4life
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Posted - 08/02/2003 : 7:34:03 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Brooks
God is a black female- and she approves of nudity.
There's nothing like absolutes to end a discussion...
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irishred
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Posted - 08/03/2003 : 10:39:18 AM
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cheri:
Quite an impressive retort!
Kudos!! 
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BeNude
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 Posted - 08/03/2003 : 8:45:07 PM
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I enjoyed reading all of the eloquent replies to 'nudistsarewrong's posting, but...
it's pretty obvious he was just a troll.
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calmnude
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Posted - 08/04/2003 : 08:29:09 AM
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discussion and counterpoints ... academic and from the heart. this person has no clue and i feel sorry for 'nudistsarewrong'. i really do.
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eva-germany
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Posted - 08/04/2003 : 11:45:42 AM
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well, for those who believe in god...
god made people
people make clothing
and when you refer to any "holy" book, you might want to check, the how many th overworked version you are reading. these books are always modified to match the time they are used in.
eVa ~ thymoma cancer survivor http://thymoma.de šOš webmistress of The Openminded Nudist Board
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NUDKIWI
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Posted - 08/04/2003 : 3:57:27 PM
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GOD created the human body.Now i know if i had created something so beautiful i'd be really annoyed if some fools were always trying to cover it up,i mean talk about insulting.
Just my 50 cents(our dollars worth less)NUDISTSAREOHSORIGHT!!!!
KIWI
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Paul1011
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Posted - 08/05/2003 : 11:30:46 AM
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My wife and I are very committed followers of Christ and active naturists. We have spent a lot of time trying to understand God's perspective on naturism. We don't feel we have comprimised our belief in any way. We are in fact better believer because of our participation in naturist activities. We openly talk to other Christians all the time about naturism and have found that some accept it and some don't. We recognize that the cultural barrier toward nudity inside the Christian community is huge and has been there for hundreds of years. I honestly believe that Christian will lighten up on this issue in the next 10 to 20 years. I really appreciate Cheri's comments and well researched thoughts. Right on target.
Paul
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USHans
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Posted - 08/08/2003 : 4:44:06 PM
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Marked4Life I think that you were on this band wagon awhile ago, am I correct? I am very happy that you took the itme to research and experience, you found out the lie that the Devil puts in us about clothing.
We cannot cover ourselves to God, he knows all we cannot hide from him.
I also spent many years researching just knowing that I was so wrong to have any interest in nudism, I thank God that he opened my mind and I now know the truth. He is not even nutural on the matter, he created us naked and unashamed and his desire on earth is as it is in heaven, naked without shame. ...As it was in the BEGINNING is now and ever shall be, world without end. In the BEGINNING we were naked and we should be now and ever more.
Nudkiwi you are so right, God created us and he was very pleased, I am not going to tell him that he is wrong.
Peace in Christ,
Hans
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