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Posted - 06/19/2008 : 6:12:03 PM
For nudist clubs in the US, there are several options.
You can go to www.aanr.com and click on regions and clubs. Click again on club listings, then click on state(s) in which you are interested.
You can also go to www.naturistsociety.com and click on Naturist Network. Enter the state abbreviation of where you are looking.
You can go to www.nudistparksusa.net and insert your zip code. However, this website does not limit its listings to just G-rated, family-friendly destinations.
There are some clubs that are affiliated with no national organization.
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| nudeisntlewd |
Posted - 07/18/2008 : 12:43:14 PM
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Originally posted by Balto Bob
I do wonder how MANY places VLM34 has been banned.
Bob
Have a nice NUDE day !!
www.flickr.com/photos/wespennest/2562019052/
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME41quy9_x0
I've heard that similar tactics were used by him elsewhere.
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| Balto Bob |
Posted - 07/18/2008 : 12:18:52 PM
I do wonder how MANY places VLM34 has been banned.
Bob
Have a nice NUDE day !!
www.flickr.com/photos/wespennest/2562019052/
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| nudeisntlewd |
Posted - 06/28/2008 : 3:46:59 PM
Thanks guys!
I just can't help myself sometimes. I can't stand stupidity under the guise of intellect.
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| Tuffers |
Posted - 06/28/2008 : 3:24:39 PM
Thanks Randy. Perhaps VM34 will now cease his inane efforts. All I say is thank G-d we have the ENGLISH CHANNEL between us and France if this is the mentality that we have in Europe!!!
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| Admin |
Posted - 06/28/2008 : 2:24:08 PM
Randy, I can't fault you for calling antagonist remarks for what they are. I'd also give you a few extra points for providing accurate quotes, and a few more for your creative use of our rather limited smilie collection.  
The thread is rather a mess, but since the original helpful links are right at the beginning, it's still useful, and it can also serve as an example of what not to do with a good topic. |
| nudeisntlewd |
Posted - 06/28/2008 : 1:25:58 PM
Admin,
Delete or move this if you like, but since “this” got hi-jacked and went “there,” I thought I’d chime in and say my piece here.
This discussion seemed to start innocently enough,(albeit immediately hi-jacked). But it’s getting asinine, and I think perhaps should have been moved instead to the waste bin.
Randy
First of all, Cheri is an official of this web site. She's not only an experienced, long time nudist, but she runs a non-landed club, and is one of the moderators of this site.
These "questions" appear to me more like looking for an argument than serious queries. What is "G" rated? What is family friendly? I think that the answer to both of those would be   . But to clarify for those who live where similar terminology is not used, G-rated in America means “General Audience.” That meaning that anyone can be in attendance, regardless of age and not be exposed to anything that would be private affairs for consenting adults or viewable only by adults. It follows that “Family Friendly” would indicate that all family members are welcome.
The original Hi-Jack occurs immediately in the second post, having nothing to do with the topic. It begins with trying to play dumb.
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Originally posted by VLM34
I'm having a bit of difficulty understanding precisely what Nudist-Resorts.org means by "G-rated" and by "family-friendly." Do the two terms mean the same thing? Are there official site definitions somewhere that I could refer to?
Garsh, I don’t understand the painfully obvious.
And then it quickly degenerates into trying to bait and start an argument by using pseudo-intellectual tactics. The example that jumps out at me as the most glaringly obvious attempt at starting an argument follows:
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Originally posted by VLM34
Overt sexuality is everywhere, especially so in nudist venues.
Well, no. It isn’t actually. At least not in this country. Yes, we have both sexes here too, and therefore sexuality, but we do poses public standards of sexual behavior with respect to sexual intimacy. I’m sure you do where you live too. It really isn’t all that difficult to determine the sex of a person you are viewing, whether clothed or not. So, a person’s sex is not any easier to determine at a nudist resort or clothing optional beach than it is on the street, or on the phone for that matter.
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Cheri, "sexuality" means "sexual character; possession of the structural and functional traits of sex; the condition of being characterized and distinguished by sex."
You know very well what we’re saying when we’re referring to sexuality.
When you looked up the definition of “sexuality” in the Yahoo dictionary, you conveniently ignored the second definition. The one that obviously applies in this context:
1. The condition of being characterized and distinguished by sex.
2. Concern with or interest in sexual activity.
3. Sexual character or potency.
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I have the distinctive structural and functional traits that identify me as male. Presumably you have a different set of equally distinctive structural and functional traits.
That is so profound! But no one is dazzled by your attempts to cloud the spirit and intent with technicality.
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Did you perhaps mean "overt sexual activity"?
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If so, please list the activities you include in the term, and give half-a-dozen examples of activities you don't.
Trying to get the lovely lady to talk dirty to you? Don’t act like a fool. You are “literate with an IQ above the standard scientific ambient temperature.” You know what sex acts are. You know what is and is not appropriate in any public setting. You can think in the abstract. Use your imagination. Get yourself off.
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BTW, I don't think you should make assumptions as to what I would or wouldn't do in front of my kids. And, conversely, I strongly suspect that you do a lot of things in front of yours that I'd find anathema.
I doubt that. You don’t know her. I do. The assumption she made is a good one. Namely, that you would use good judgment and decorum when your children are present. Or was that a false assumption? Did she list any activities you wouldn’t do in front of your kids? No, she didn’t. She probably thought you could use your own judgment and decide for yourself what they might be.
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I also think it's unwise of you to make assumptions about my having a religious leader. Given that I'm literate with an IQ above the standard scientific ambient temperature, why would I want (or need) one of those?
She didn't suggest that you have, or should have one. Therefore, it wasn’t an assumption that you might. And you know it. It is a universally understood example of someone that a reasonable person with good taste and upbringing would also likely use good judgment and decorum in the presence of.
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| sanua_chap |
Posted - 06/27/2008 : 1:06:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Balto Bob
quote:
Originally posted by VLM34
I'm having a bit of difficulty understanding precisely what Nudist-Resorts.org means by "G-rated" and by "family-friendly." Do the two terms mean the same thing? Are there official site definitions somewhere that I could refer to?
There are no official site definitions. This is a .org discussion forum about nudism. Most of your questions will be answered by the members. Cheri is one of the most knowledgeable and oldest members. "family-friendly" usually means they allow families (with children). "G-rated" generally means the resort won't allow sex in the hot tub (for example).
Bob
Have a nice NUDE day !!
Thank you for the clarification. I live the 'wrong' side of the pond, and terms like 'G-rated' mean nothing because our cinema classifications are completely different. |
| Admin |
Posted - 06/21/2008 : 10:09:49 PM
In the interest of keeping this thread on topic, I've started a new discussion called Classification system for nudist resorts to continue talking about our new classification system.
This thread is about United States destinations, and how to find them. |
| VLM34 |
Posted - 06/21/2008 : 8:01:42 PM
Cheri says,
> I don't think it needs to be spelled out as
> to what is included in overt sexual activity.
> Most adults are aware, ie. nothing other than
> holding hands and possibly a short peck.
You're advocating much more stringent restrictions than the law does. Do you really think that nude people must be restricted more than clothed people? If so, why?
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| VLM34 |
Posted - 06/21/2008 : 7:07:25 PM
Admin says,
> The "official" point of view at SUN is that there is a great need for a better classification system
> for the various types of nude recreation destinations.
Agreed.
> One of the reasons we founded this organization, and offered this forum, is that we feel a system
> with only a black-and-white mentality just doesn't serve the clothing optional community.
Agreed. Yet you seem to exhibit such a mentality below.
> Yes, there are nude destinations safe for a 5 year old, 24 hours a day 365 days a year.
> In our research, there are not many of them. They should be protected and supported.
Safe in what way?
> Yes, on the other extreme there are locations or clubs that are only masquerading as
> nude recreation establishments, where the "nudist" part of the experience is entirely
> lacking. These would more properly be called swing clubs, but not all swing clubs try
> to pass themselves off as nude recreation destinations.
Ah, you're focussed solely on sexual activity.
> But guess what. There is a vast middle area of establishments that cater to a clientčle
> that prefers some measure of adult entertainment or atmosphere. These locations still
> forbid any open sex act, or the appearance of such, or anything illegal, but look the
> other way at the more common nighttime public displays of affection that are a part of
> any modern urban community. During the day, they are quite family 'safe', since all adult
> themes are restricted to after 9PM when the minors are off the property.
More focus on sexual activity. (BTW, my kids might be in bed by 9PM, but if I'm staying overnight then so are they.)
> There is also a classification of destination that forbids minors, whether by choice
> or by legislative action, as in Hippie Hollow, which no longer permits families with
> children since the laws were changed.
I agree with Bob Morton that parents should decide where they can take their children. You appear to have a different view.
> SUN will provide an easy and sensible classification system to address these differences.
> In fact, we're just days from announcing it. We agree there is a need for it.
But, from what I gather, SUN's only criterion will be sexual activity.
After reading a whole bunch of posts here, and having now heard from Cheri and you, I gather that you consider a place to be 'family friendly' and 'safe for kids' without regrad to whether it's filthy, disease-laden, physically unsafe, in serious disrepair, raucus, and full of aggressive peddlers of all sorts of political, social, economic, and religious views which the peddlers seek to foist on others, especially children -- so long as there's no overt sexual activity going on.
That kind of classification system isn't useful to me.
I'd much rather receive accurate and complete information about all the items I listed above, and then be allowed to decide for myself -- according to _MY OWN_ ciriteria -- whether _I_ consider it an appropriate place to take _MY_ family.
I'd prefer that you (and Cheri) focus on your families while allowing me to focus on mine.
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| Cheri |
Posted - 06/21/2008 : 6:51:56 PM
Nudism is relative to sensuality not sexuality. You "could" add overt sexuality if that makes it clearer to you. I don't think it needs to be spelled out as to what is included in overt sexual activity. Most adults are aware, ie. nothing other than holding hands and possibly a short peck. This is not a religion board nor is the topic reflecting religion. In fact, most of this thread is off topic.
Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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http://pages.prodigy/cheridonna
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| VLM34 |
Posted - 06/21/2008 : 6:26:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Cheri
VLM34, Overt sexuality is generally not accepted in a family-friendly situation, something that you wouldn't do in front of your kids or your religious leader.
Overt sexuality is everywhere, especially so in nudist venues.
Cheri, "sexuality" means "sexual character; possession of the structural and functional traits of sex; the condition of being characterized and distinguished by sex."
I have the distinctive structural and functional traits that identify me as male. Presumably you have a different set of equally distinctive structural and functional traits.
Did you perhaps mean "overt sexual activity"?
If so, please list the activities you include in the term, and give half-a-dozen examples of activites you don't.
BTW, I don't think you should make assumptions as to what I would or wouldn't do in front of my kids. And, conversely, I strongly suspect that you do a lot of things in front of yours that I'd find anathema.
I also think it's unwise of you to make assumptions about my having a religious leader. Given that I'm literate with an IQ above the standard scientific ambient temperature, why would I want (or need) one of those?
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| Admin |
Posted - 06/21/2008 : 4:10:46 PM
The "official" point of view at SUN is that there is a great need for a better classification system for the various types of nude recreation destinations.
One of the reasons we founded this organization, and offered this forum, is that we feel a system with only a black-and-white mentality just doesn't serve the clothing optional community.
Yes, there are nude destinations safe for a 5 year old, 24 hours a day 365 days a year. In our research, there are not many of them. They should be protected and supported.
Yes, on the other extreme there are locations or clubs that are only masquerading as nude recreation establishments, where the "nudist" part of the experience is entirely lacking. These would more properly be called swing clubs, but not all swing clubs try to pass themselves off as nude recreation destinations.
But guess what. There is a vast middle area of establishments that cater to a clientčle that prefers some measure of adult entertainment or atmosphere. These locations still forbid any open sex act, or the appearance of such, or anything illegal, but look the other way at the more common nighttime public displays of affection that are a part of any modern urban community. During the day, they are quite family 'safe', since all adult themes are restricted to after 9PM when the minors are off the property.
There is also a classification of destination that forbids minors, whether by choice or by legislative action, as in Hippie Hollow, which no longer permits families with children since the laws were changed.
SUN will provide an easy and sensible classification system to address these differences. In fact, we're just days from announcing it. We agree there is a need for it.
Back to the topic, United States destinations. We had just added a new feature to the website, as a part of the new Resort Showcase. It's called our Nude Google Maps. As I write this, there are many listings that can still be added. |
| Cheri |
Posted - 06/21/2008 : 1:09:45 PM
VLM34, Overt sexuality is generally not accepted in a family-friendly situation, something that you wouldn't do in front of your kids or your religious leader.
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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http://pages.prodigy/cheridonna
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| VLM34 |
Posted - 06/21/2008 : 12:59:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Cheri
Family-friendly means more than just welcoming people with children. It means that things won't go on at the club that would be offensive to those with children.
Cheri
What things? Could you make a list? |
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