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Cheri |
Posted - 04/18/2004 : 2:11:53 PM This was emailed out a couple of weeks ago to most AANR-Eastern region clubs and lots of members. This is important. We need to defeat the proposals on the mail ballot. These proposals are NOT the same as what was voted for by the Regional Assembly. The reduction of the number of Directors, I was told by one of the directors, is now being taking off the ballot.
If you are in the Eastern Region, I urge you to vote against all the propositions mainly because this is NOT what was voted for. In short, this is illegal.
I apologize if you've seen this information previously, but this is a serious issue that we need to deal with and inform as many MEMBERS as possible to become aware of what is going on in their organization. With best regards, Cheri Alexander
Date: 4/6/04 To: All AANR-EAST club owners/managers/members From: Former ESA/AANR-EAST presidents Turner Stokes, Gregory Smith, Charles Preston, and Paul Jones RE: AANR-EAST Mail Ballot
AANR-EAST MAIL BALLOT MOTIONS MUST BE DEFEATED! PLEASE HELP!
Despite requests from AANR-East Board members, current President Bob Roche has refused permission for a knowledgeable person to write a “con” statement regarding the motions that will appear on this ballot, although he himself appears to have written what effectively could be called a “pro” statement. He has stated that no “con” statement is necessary because “the motions are not controversial.” With all due respect, we beg to differ with his point of view and would like to share some of our concerns with you.
Concern #1: Because of its mail ballot, AANR-East has the most democratic system of governance and election. Motions or propositions that could significantly impact the Association should go to the members with both a pro and a con statement for explanation so that the membership can be fully informed when casting their vote. The motions on this year’s mail ballot could dramatically alter the future of our Association.
We believe the members should be fully informed on the issues from both sides before they exercise their important right to vote via the mail ballot. Don’t you?
Concern #2: The motions to be ratified were passed by the General Assembly at Cherokee last summer. Since then a lawyer has rewritten them. President Roche states, “Our Legal Counsel rewrote the two motions cited above, without changing or altering the intent of the motions passed by our member delegates.”
We don’t believe that is true – why don’t you decide for yourself?
Please compare the versions of Motion #1 for yourself and see if they are the same motion: [Please notice that the second version does two things quite differently. It states that the power to decide goes out of the members’ hands and into the hands of the Board of Directors. It also states that an “objectionable” proposal from AANR only needs to be proposed, not passed, to initiate action by the Board of Directors. It also changes the content and time frame from a specific proposal in the immediate future to any proposal at any General Assembly, without limits]
*General Assembly version of Motion #1: Move that the AANR-East Regional Assembly request the AANR-East President to appoint a Transition Committee to ensure the continuation of the AANR-East Region as a representative of individual nudists and club owners within this region once the AANR discontinues collection of regional dues if the AANR-Tomorrow Proposal is adopted.
*Printed ballot version of Motion #1: Move that if any proposal put forth by the AANR at a General Assembly, for passage, is determined by the AANR-East Board of Directors, to threaten the continued financial, political, or corporate existence of AANR-East, Inc., or ability of AANR-East, Inc., its membership, and any other organization to form strategic alliances with other organizations representing other regions and/or groups organized to promote, enhance, or protect social nudism, or, in the opinion of the |
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Cheri |
Posted - 06/10/2004 : 7:21:45 PM Al, If you want a club name on your card, I'll gladly help with that w/my club at no cost to you.
Hugs, Cheri
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NudeTLH |
Posted - 06/10/2004 : 11:04:08 AM I am a member of Tallahasse Naturally but have my AANR membership directly. Complicated procedures. I agree with you regarding the changing of motions. If the originals were clear why the need for change and certainly not without opposing input.
Thanks
Al |
Cheri |
Posted - 06/10/2004 : 09:40:33 AM Al, This was for the members of the Eastern Region of AANR only or those members who are AANR members through an Eastern region club. The regional president put forth some legislation that would have separated the region from the parent organization. The legislation has since been recalled but it still appears on the regional mail ballot for which I continue urging those who have received their ballots to still vote no on them.
AANR has it's meeting in August, those proposals should be in the July Bulletin if it wasn't in the June issue. They probably are also on the Cyber-Bulletin webpage at www.aanr.com
Regards, Cheri
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NudeTLH |
Posted - 06/10/2004 : 08:09:48 AM I'm not new to nudism but I am new to AANR and it's politics. In brief what is going on? Who gets to vote on these proposals?
Thanks AL
Al |
calmnude |
Posted - 06/09/2004 : 9:31:32 PM There has been a new memo sent to AANR East about the ballot questions.
This is a step in the right direction. |
naturalgar |
Posted - 05/28/2004 : 10:08:08 AM Wow!
72 clubs in AANR East region? Never realized there were that many |
spadoc |
Posted - 05/28/2004 : 09:43:53 AM Please also note that the AANR East convention will be at Cherokee Lodge this July followed by our first and hopefully annual AANR East festival. Folks, please please please let's have more than 4 out of 72 clubs in the AANR East region represented. As you can all plainly see, there are extremely important issues discussed at these meetings. If someone is unwilling to participate in the process, it's not fair to criticize the outcome. Cheri and I may disagree from time to time, but I respect her commitment and I appreciate that no matter what, she insures that her club is represented. If every club had someone like her, there is no telling how successful our region and AANR could be. Thanks Cheri, I look forward to seeing Clyde at convention. Maybe one year we'll have it at a venue that doesn't interfere with your asthma. In the meantime, keep up the good work!!!
Walt Iliff |
Cheri |
Posted - 05/27/2004 : 10:07:01 AM Joe, Nice that you're getting involved! AANR convention will be at Glen Eden this summer. You might consider attending the meetings.
BTW, Mike/Janet Gesner have been good friends for many years. He's now onboard with AANR as advisor for Marketing. :) Cheri
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Kimberly |
Posted - 05/27/2004 : 03:45:02 AM Gottcha Cheri
Kim =^.^= |
fox100d |
Posted - 05/26/2004 : 5:24:49 PM Hi, Cheri,
Quite an interesting topic. First became aware of this 'ballot' situation when I received Mike Gesser's 'Looking Ahead' newsletter of the TriStateSunClub, my member club before I moved out west. In that it (so far) doesn't affect me (AANR/NWNA region), I am thoroughly concerned how this outcome may spread to and effect other clubs and regions. I do need to study more both your statement, Mike's statements, and replys to your statement (SPADOC, Randy, Kevin, etc.).
I have already discussed this with my club (the NATRUALS) president, and will bring it up at the NWNA Convention at (a magnificent new landed club here in the NW (ID)) Sun Meadows, come July. We, the Naturals, are landing a hand, and taking part in this Convention, and it should be an interesting discussion.
Anyhow, knowing Mike thru TTSC, and you thru this website, I have full confidence in both your knowledge, abilities, experience and judgement, and I agree with your recommendation and urge any readers and East members to vote No!
Per some of SPADOC's comments, guess I AM getting more & more involved in club actions & activities!
I 'subscribed to this topic' to keep myself informed.
joe |
calmnude |
Posted - 05/23/2004 : 4:21:24 PM cheri,
got the message. will be waiting for my mail ballot to cast my vote. |
Cheri |
Posted - 05/23/2004 : 11:47:49 AM Kimberly, The propositions are still ON the mail ballot. I recommend voting "NO" just in case.
Hugs, Cheri
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Kimberly |
Posted - 05/22/2004 : 02:53:55 AM I love it when a plan comes together! 
Kim =^.^= |
calmnude |
Posted - 05/21/2004 : 11:37:15 PM ok, that's better. we must work together openly.
it's the only way we can become better and sronger. |
Cheri |
Posted - 05/21/2004 : 2:10:24 PM Reprinted from the AANR office:
I am very pleased to forward to you an email that was sent to the AANR Board of trustees this morning. I thank each of you for your grass roots help in AANR East to make this resolution a reality.
Pat Brown AANR President
-----Original Message----- Trustees, AANR-East President Bob Roche and I have mediated a resolution to issues that have caused considerable discord between AANR East and AANR. I commend Bob for his leadership and dedication to the future growth of AANR and AANR East in spearheading this process. This agreement establishes significant cooperation and determination to move forward. As a result of our agreement the following actions have or will occur:
* AANR East's Executive Board has withdrawn motions 1 through 4 from their mail ballot; these motions will become null and void. * AANR-EAST will openly support all the PAG proposals. * I have agreed to have a proposal drafted for presentation at the AANR general assembly to place language in the bylaws to recognize perpetual existence to the regions as long as AANR is in business and to guarantee that AANR will continue to collect and forward regional dues to the regions as long as the regions and the AANR exist.
It has become obvious that there is still an element of distrust between AANR and some regions as an after-effect of last year's withdrawn proposal to cease the collection and distribution of regional dues. The inclusion of this statement in our bylaws will go a long way to help rebuild trust between regional officials and AANR.
* Further, we will work together to draft a proposal providing both member and club trustees with an alternate in their absence. Both of these proposals will be presented to the general assembly for consideration.
* AANR East has withdrawn the formal letter to Jawn Bauer, leaving his record free of any formal issues of conflict of interest in matters between AANR and AANR East. * Bob and I discussed the need to take a stand against increased personal attacks directed against volunteers and staff. It is becoming more difficult to interest and retain good volunteers because of criticism over personality rather than principle. I am drafting a statement that I hope all regional presidents will sign making a unified statement to all members of AANR that our volunteers are valuable and that we will work together to promote AANR's mission and goals and provide an atmosphere of respect and cooperation.
Bob and I have agreed to begin the rebuilding of trust together. I am extremely optimistic that this summer will see a cooperation and team resolve to move AANR forward and provide our members value and relevance to their membership.
As with previous emails, I encourage you to keep you regional president informed of these developments. Pat
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