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Posted - 03/15/2005 : 9:50:00 PM Reprinted from the White Cockatoo website
"The White Cockatoo", a resort in Australia, details a change in policy for its nude use to exclude swingers.
To all that matter,
What an interesting few days it has been to the start of 2005 for us, and that's an understatement!
Many of you will have seen on our website, or via an email sent, that we were ceasing operation as a Nudist resort from 1st January. This decision was based on the number of unfortunate incidents, that have occurred on an ongoing basis, during our Nude seasons.
This announcement caused an immediate outpouring of emails, telephone calls, and personal visits from many offering support and encouragement to us, and thus we've taken onboard many comments of advice in making a further decision to continue.
We are now in our 3rd season, and see the need for an immediate distinct change of tactics to alleviate problems in the future, and to continue to provide Australasia's Premier Nudist Resort to Nudists. This will now continue, albeit with some changes which should not in any way effect Nudists themselves.
We seek to outline these changes here, but firstly will openly admit to being wrong in parts of our method of operation prior to January 1st 2005, and certainly way off base in what we thought was a good marketing strategy.
We also offer sincere apologies to any whose holidays may have been thrown into disarray during this difficult decision making process.
As long time Nudists we had stayed at numerous other Nudist establishments, Australia wide, before purchasing The White Cockatoo in 2002, and almost always were propositioned by swingers also staying at those establishments. We obviously figured that swingers are a part of the Nudist market, just as they are a part of everyday life, and therefore part of our marketing strategy has been to be open and accommodating to all with an alternative lifestyle choice, separate to Nudism.
We have never made any secret of this aspect of our resort, and in fact the following was openly displayed within our usual website as part of our Frequently Asked Questions : "We have seen The White Cockatoo advertised on Swingers & Gay sites. What does this mean ? That we are open to all lifestyles and do not discriminate. Being a national and international destination, we promote The White Cockatoo to many market segments, from birdwatchers, seniors, disabled, hikers, bikers, and numerous other lifestyles. We, like many resorts world wide have a very open mind to all our guests needs, and the nudist lifestyle is just one of those segments. We welcome all to The White Cockatoo. As Nudists, in the minority of society, and a group often discriminated against we do not believe we have the right to discriminate against anybody whatever their lifestyle or background. Naturally those from different lifestyles are expected to be discreet in their activities or face immediate expulsion from our resort."
We assumed that this information, plus the specific information presented on our actual Swinger Friendly site at http://www.tropicsfun.com would have made it very clear that while we were open to alternative lifestyles a certain code of behaviour needed to be adhered to. We believed that by offering a place for Swingers to meet they would respect our simple guidelines and not misbehave or play games. Unfortunately this has proved not to be the case!
We have always explained to the Swingers market that if they were to indicate their lifestyle choice to us we would endeavour to introduce them to likeminded others who had indicated the same. Simple we thought, and easily managed. How wrong we were !
Not only have Swingers stayed here without indicating their lifestyle choice, thus allowing us to provide a discreet introduction to likeminded others, many of those have blatantly disregarded the most important rule this resort has : "No means No - Always respect others boundaries. Overt sexual pressure or behaviour will not be tolerated." This has caused those involved to be evicted from the resort, and in some cases the police have had to be called to assist in these evictions. Unfortunately other guests have not always been aware of reasons for these evictions, raised voices, and in some cases aggressive behaviour displayed.
We do not feel the need to go into specifics of any particular instance, but the frequency of problems has now motivated us to simply say : "If a Swinger please do not make a reservation to stay at The White Cockatoo. We are no longer Swinger friendly, and will not be involved in any marketing of, hosting of, or anything at all to do with the Swingers lifestyle. Unfortunately a minority has ruined it for the majority."
So again, We openly admit how wrong we were in thinking we could successfully manage our resort with various lifestyle groups together, and we sincerely apologise to any guests who may have been affected by this previous method of operation. Be assured this will never occur again.
To all those who have offered such strong encouragement and advice over the last few days we extend our heartfelt thanks.
The White Cockatoo has proved that there is a need in Australasia for a Nudist Resort of the quality of ours, providing all the facilities and tours we offer. From a business perspective the Nudist aspect of The White Cockatoo has been a financial success, and our decision to continue is also partly motivated by the need for this resort to survive into the future. We believe that many of our other methods of operation have proven to be the only way to go, with our Nude Only philosophy being very much responsible for our success thus far. This philosophy stands and will never alter as long as we operate as a Nudist Resort.
We hope those who have sought to discredit us by making public our Swinger Friendly status, which we never made any secret of anyway, are able to find something else to amuse themselves with in the future.
We look forward to continued success, and to welcoming many new guests in the upcoming months and years. We also very much look forward to not having to be constantly watching guests behaviour, assuming that usual rules of life apply and untoward behaviour will not eventuate with our Nudist guests.
Please feel free at anytime to contact us with any thoughts, comments, or questions which as always will be answered in an open and honest manner.
Our sincerest thanks to all that matter. Kind Regards Tony & Lenore Fox Proprietors.
Reprinted from the White Cockatoo website. This information is provided for education and community discussion. Nudist-Resorts.Org is not affiliated with the White Cockatoo Resort.
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Posted - 01/21/2010 : 9:20:40 PM Regarding the "adults only almost anything goes" seasonal theme, on this website we don't provide free advertising or support for this type of activity.
If members have comments to share about the 'nudist' months at White Cockatoo, this is appropriate and on-topic for this forum.
However, blatantly swinger-friendly lifestyle trip reports are not allowed here. There may be other websites for that. |
TheWhiteCockatoo |
Posted - 01/21/2010 : 9:18:28 PM quote: Originally posted by bothofus
Hi, we realise that this post originally is quite old however, we are very interested in white cockatoo and yes we are nudists but also very much in swinging... everyone to their own guys, it works for us.
However this whole thread is confusing, we are seriously thinking of booking into white cockatoo (places are very limited we know) but is it a truly 'swingers friendly' resort?? We have read the resorts webpages and have seen a lot very opposite comments and reviews. We are not too fussed about the physical condition of the place, as long as the pool water isnt green lol!!
But taking into the costs of getting there etc, we dont want to mispend our hard earned on something which isnt actually true. We understand the rules etc but its strange taht we cant find a post relevant to the "adults Only-almost evrying goes" period.
Cheers
us
Had you ever thought of emailing The White Cockatoo directly and asking???
And with all due respect, Would it not seem rather odd that if the pool is green, or any of the other negative comments being factual, why The White Cockatoo continues to thrive after 8 years of operation, with a huge number of return guests, along with actual guest comments on it's own website??? |
bothofus |
Posted - 01/21/2010 : 8:59:58 PM Hi, we realise that this post originally is quite old however, we are very interested in white cockatoo and yes we are nudists but also very much in swinging... everyone to their own guys, it works for us.
However this whole thread is confusing, we are seriously thinking of booking into white cockatoo (places are very limited we know) but is it a truly 'swingers friendly' resort?? We have read the resorts webpages and have seen a lot very opposite comments and reviews. We are not too fussed about the physical condition of the place, as long as the pool water isnt green lol!!
But taking into the costs of getting there etc, we dont want to mispend our hard earned on something which isnt actually true. We understand the rules etc but its strange taht we cant find a post relevant to the "adults Only-almost evrying goes" period.
Cheers
us |
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Posted - 01/13/2010 : 5:25:52 PM Doc, I couldn't agree more.
Everyone, please support your favorite nudist venues, THIS YEAR, because they will truly need it.
We need to support ALL venues that provide a satisfactory nude or clothing optional environment, where the visitor can expect good behavior, proper discretion and good reputation of the resort or facility, with no disappointments. |
NaturistDoc |
Posted - 01/13/2010 : 4:13:28 PM I suppose congratulations are in order to Tony on his impending retirement. I'm sure his book will sell dozens of copies. While I'm no great fan of Tony nor of the White Cockatoo, one must give the devil his due. When he says that what he is pleased to call the "prudy nudie" market is in decline, he makes a valid point. Whether it's due to an aging demographic, the current economic mess, or other factors attendance at nudist and clothing-optinal resorts seems to have peaked. Resort owners, no matter how well-intentioned, are by definition business people, and cannot keep operating at a loss. If we "prudy nudies" (personally I prefer "non-swinging nudists") are losing the battle to the more lucrative swinger market, it is to some degree our own fault. Are we doing what we can to support the venues that reflect our values? I know times are tough right now, but if all the members of AANR, TNS, and this forum would commit to even a brief stay at a nudist resort this year, we might be able to insure that these resorts are still around next year. |
PeterInMelbourne |
Posted - 01/12/2010 : 02:39:44 AM They're selling the resort: http://www.theage.com.au/travel/travel-news/swingers-resort-boss-to-pen-tellall-book-20100111-m2c2.html |
TheWhiteCockatoo |
Posted - 04/08/2009 : 04:44:30 AM No problem.... but yes there is a helluva lot of new information shown throughout our updated website. www.thewhitecockatoo.com
As it has been here for the last 7 years there are absolutely no secrets about what we do, and whenever we make any changes to methods of operation we are always totally open and honest about those changes and publish them for the world to see.
Our independence and uniqueness is definitely working, and while others may describe us as "much maligned" I much prefer the term "World Famous"
Just tossing up though whether "Get Plucked @ The White Cockatoo" might be a good marketing ploy???
Somehow I think there will a little more exposure to come....
But in all seriousness... and due to this site being Nudist-Resorts.org Let's be clear that The White Cockatoo is ONLY operating as a Nudist Resort from the 1st October to 19th December this year, '09.
Usual common sense nudist etiqutte rules apply during this time, which is all clearly shown and explained via http://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/aboutus.html
Comments from Nudists on other seasons are simply silly.
At the end of the day it's all Great Fun In The Sun
Tony
@ The World Famous White Cockatoo Web : http://www.thewhitecockatoo.com Email : info@thewhitecockatoo.com Ph. +61 7 40982222 Fax. +61 7 40982221 9 Alchera Drive, Mossman, Qld 4873, Australia |
voigtstr |
Posted - 04/07/2009 : 04:21:56 AM Thanks Tony, I hadn't seen the updated website. |
TheWhiteCockatoo |
Posted - 04/06/2009 : 5:17:49 PM As shown via http://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/AdultsOnly.html
Adults Only @ The White Cockatoo Unique In Australasia!
Fun In The Sun! Adults Only - Almost Anything Goes! 29th December '09 to 31st March '10
Friendly, Fun, Cool, Calm, Smart, Sassy, Social Souls Are Most Welcome! Definitely Not for prudie nudies, judgemental fools, indiscreet individuals, locals or looneys!
Adult Activities Will Be Encountered And Allowed! If a prude don't visit from 29th December '09 to 31st March '10.
Including Nude Years Eve - December 31st '09 You Can Leave Your Hat On (but bugger all else!)
Double From Only $169 per night including all Standard Drinks from the bar providing Free Standard Beers, Wines, Spirits, & Soft Drinks from noon daily. (Responsible service of alcohol laws apply)
In addition to our many on-site facilities all spacious fully self-contained 3 1/2 Star rated accommodation chalets provide: Remote Color TV, DVD Player, Air Conditioned, Ensuite Bathroom, Full Kitchen with Oven, Microwave & Utensils, Linen, Towels, etc.
Clothing Not Optional! Sarongs, towels, lingerie, wicked weasels, or similar are cool for cover-up. Street clothes are not. "If you can wear it at the local supermarket then you can't wear it here!"
March '09 was sold out well in advance - Be Sure to Book Early for 2010!
Essential reading for Adults Only @ The White Cockatoo http://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/AdultsOnlyAboutUs.html as there are no surprises here! |
voigtstr |
Posted - 04/06/2009 : 05:39:55 AM ok, so from Jan-March: Is it clothing optional or enforced nudity? Is sexual activity in the open allowed or not allowed?
Cheers the voigtstr
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TheWhiteCockatoo |
Posted - 04/06/2009 : 04:15:33 AM It was most unfortunate that John Harrison, the bloke & wife evicted, was the oldest and ugliest person here at the time who then went to the media himself and provided photos and personal details of and about himself and his wife, with headlines everywhere announcing: Swingers / Sex Couple / f****** Fool. Last heard of was sad and lonely in disgrace. Over-reaction by me? lmao Over-reaction by him that he will live to regret? Undoubtedly!!!
All lifestyles are different, and certainly swingers and nudists are sometimes separate, but also sometimes same ;-)
But keeping it simple and straight with no hidden marketing ploys is not too difficult.
Educating the simple that there are different seasons here is!
But... In an effort to do so... Our site clearly show there are distinct differences www.thewhitecockatoo.com
The White Cockatoo Has Three Distinct Seasons with Three Different Methods of Operation:
Currently Until 1st October '09 - The White Cockatoo is operating as a Fully Clothed Conventional Family Resort. http://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/twcFacilities.html
From 1st October '09 - The White Cockatoo will Operate Primarily as a Nudist Resort - Not Clothing Optional. http://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/aboutus.html
From 29th December '09 Until 31st March '10 - Adults Only - Almost Anything Goes. http://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/AdultsOnly.html
Like I said.... It's simple really but for those still struggling: It is essential to clearly understand the differences between the three available seasons and choose the one that best suits you. The seasons do not overlap in any way, and are totally distinct in all methods of operation, and confusion could lead to disappointment.
Cheers
Tony Fox |
voigtstr |
Posted - 03/15/2009 : 4:54:34 PM They are two separate things. Both are niche markets. You then have the smaller niche of people who are both nudists and into swinging.
The only thing I can see different with White Cockatoo's march period is that there are no kids there.
So can you shag in the open during March? What does "almost anything goes" mean? According to some here, its just empty marketing. |
fipty801 |
Posted - 03/14/2009 : 11:06:32 PM quote: Originally posted by voigtstr
Can anyone clarify how March differs to the nudist season please?
Uhm, there is no difference is the only conclusion that could be arrived at. It seems the "swinger" theme is just a marketing ploy.
In defence of White Cockatoo, no news source seems to be able to provide a consistent story (3 or 4 women? Walking past or waiting? Dickhead or f***head? Who threatened who etc). And Mr Harrison and his partner are the only people evicted (so far) this month.
However, as usual, White Cockatoo's owner appears to have over reacted and shown all the subtlety and class of a nuclear bomb.
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voigtstr |
Posted - 03/05/2009 : 8:20:04 PM Can anyone clarify how March differs to the nudist season please? |
Warmskin |
Posted - 03/05/2009 : 8:08:54 PM quote: Originally posted by NaturistDoc
Wow ... one look at that fun couple makes me want to start swinging immediately!
On the other hand, maybe the Harrisons were lucky to get kicked out of TWC. Look at what's headed for the resort.
Wasn't that their "before" photo for the new Swinger Diet plan?
"Rock and Roll, man, on K-WASH FM, yo, raaaaap with me, mama, with 50 Cent. Git it on, Baby! "
George Washington
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