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Posted - 06/07/2004 : 11:07:55 PM Because it is such a powerful sales tool, nudity has been exploited by the advertising and sex industries. The idea of nudity being comfortable and non-sexual doesn't sell products, so the opposite is emphasized. In the process, when we say we are nudists to the general public, they have been programmed to think there is something naughty or sexual about it. The average nudist has Madison Avenue working to promote the sexual stereotype, and he or she needs to speak out in forums such as this to let the public know that nudists are just regular people.
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Hawk |
Posted - 03/28/2009 : 08:48:46 AM I've done porn shoots where I wore a business shirt, tie and black socks. I was semi clothed and sexual, although in porn we don't call what we do "real sex". The likelihood of you guys understanding that is about the same as the clothed world separating nudism and being sexual.
Hawk |
Eleanor |
Posted - 04/27/2008 : 5:16:13 PM A lot of people in Government don't seem to know that more people just like being in the nude than have much interest in porn, they seem to think that nudism is porn, how misguided they are, I am not attacking porn, but would like to point out to the politicians that people haveing porn wear clothes sometimes and people who want to go naked are not necessarily wanting to be pornographic, just want to feel comfortable and feel free.
Shy Nudist |
JustSomeGuy |
Posted - 08/25/2007 : 3:59:18 PM Thanks to the upbringing of myself and millions of other people, I have no problem freely admitting that there is a built-in association that being nude is a sexual activity. I am trying very hard to get past the upbringing and become more in-tune with what being naked really is: nothing more than a way to feel free, liberated, and the word I think captures the experience best - sensual. Not sexual. I enjoy it very much, but again, with American society the way it is, coupled with upbringing, it's fairly difficult to suddenly stop pairing the two.
With regards to sex out in the open, I would never in a million years think about having sex with my woman on a social nude beach. However, I certainly would NOT turn the opportunity down if it were on a private beach out of the view of others. I can't think of a more romantic environment than tropical sun, warm waves, and soft sand with a gentle breeze blowing. It would be a very special setting for intimacy. Intimate between the two of us, not the two of us + other unwilling onlookers. |
SmittynAtlanta |
Posted - 05/09/2007 : 11:52:35 PM Nudity can be sexual mainly because it is Tabboo. Or odd. For example. I've seen pictures of nude people in Europe sunbathing and running around naked. One thing I noticed is men aren't sexually aroused.
But if you were to go to a beach in say the Carolinas or Georgia. Which is an area where you won't see women in thongs much less topless or naked. If a man (Including me) was to walk around a beach in Georgia and be surrounded by naked women everywhere. I would be arroused.
And it's the same way when you are first naked around someone. But be around them for a while and naked and you loose arousel accept when they are ready to go.
Now do I see a problem with people having literal sex on the beach. As long as you are on a private beach and the land owner has no problem with it. Then fine. Let nudist sex beaches exist.
But under no circumstances should the GOVERNMENT determine what someone can or can't do.
If Government were a product it would be illegal - PJ O'rourke |
NakedAmbition |
Posted - 02/20/2007 : 09:41:04 AM Interesting post, StuffedTiger. I would only add that enjoying occasional sensual stimulation during nudist activities isn't horribly bad, either, as long as that's not the driving force for participating in such activities. My wife and I belong to a very down-to-earth camp populated by extremely gentle, sweet people, but even those folks enjoy a little bawdiness and sensual appreciation of the human form at the late night dances, when everyone is relaxing and letting his or her hair down. If it's just playful comments and appreciative glances, it's all in good fun. |
StuffedTiger |
Posted - 02/19/2007 : 10:16:25 PM We can't replace an image of what nudism IS with an image of what nudism ISN'T.
Here's a candidate for what nudism is: sensuous. In forums, we could write things like:
"Nudism is as sensuous as a gentle summer rain." "Nudism is as sensuous as a Thanksgiving Dinner." "Nudism is as sensuous as your first date." "Nudism is as sensuous as warm apple pie and ice cream."
Variations:
"Nudism is like eating a box of chocolates without stopping." "Nudism is like warm apple pie and ice cream, seriously sensuous."
(Note: sensuous and sensual mean different things. "Sensuous" is the one we want IMHO.) |
Jimmy D |
Posted - 02/19/2007 : 12:19:47 PM I'm glad you said that, Gospel. Although not religious myself, it bugs me when someone saids "oh yea, he/she is suposed to be (Christian, Jewish, Muslim, whatever) and look what he/she said/did". I always reply, there isnt a religion that makes anyone perfect and no one is praying to be, or expecting to be perfect, unless they are delugenal.For them, there's many reasons to worship, pray ect and becoming perfect is not one of them. Mabe better, but not perfect. With that said, I do think organized religion has something to do with it. I think FEAR probably has more to do with it. Most things wrong with me as well as society often come down to fear, insecurity, greed (which also comes from fear).Somethings are just a matter of the way we are brought up and often not asking the question: "why".
Jimmy D |
CoolNude72 |
Posted - 05/29/2006 : 8:46:09 PM quote: Originally posted by paminimalist
Due to Madison Av, nudity has a Bad Rap. Notice Nude prudes in AANR camps or feeling such. Notice Playboy & Penthouse. Yahoo groups alone for adults. No wonder Nudisim can be seen in best light (save Europe). Prude America.
What in the hell are you talking about? Madison Ave? You must be crazy. Nude prudes in AANR camps??? Pal, because we decide not to publically display sexual activity when at an AANR camp does not make us prudes. Because we decide to keep that kind of behavior behind closed doors and out of sight of other families and children does NOT make us prudes. You need to get your facts straight. I am tired of people telling us Americans we are prudes while at the same time telling us that Europe is the prudeless capital of the world. pullleaaaassssseeeeee!!!
Ray
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paminimalist |
Posted - 05/29/2006 : 3:39:01 PM Due to Madison Av, nudity has a Bad Rap. Notice Nude prudes in AANR camps or feeling such. Notice Playboy & Penthouse. Yahoo groups alone for adults. No wonder Nudisim can be seen in best light (save Europe). Prude America. |
beachnudist |
Posted - 05/01/2006 : 07:21:17 AM Nothing wrong with a bonk in public.
Well then go do it at a textile beach or in front of a police station. Why do you want to subject others to such boorish behaviour? If you feel that you need to be seen bonking in public then I am sure that there are swinger venues where you can do that without offending anyone. Nude beaches are places where people go and behave in the same manner and within standards that are accepted as good behaviour on any public beach or park except that we are nude. People who have sex at nudist venues are an inconsiderate nusiance and should be reported to the rangers /police right away. At least that way true nudists can be seen as not tolerent of such activities and hope to protect our nude beaches. |
Pete Knight |
Posted - 05/01/2006 : 02:34:40 AM quote: Originally posted by muffin
quote: Originally posted by Cheri
Nudists don't have sex on the beach. That can and has lost us some of our venues. Nudism has nothing to do with overt sexuality.
Cheri
Come downunder to aussieland and you'll see - noone closes our beaches...hahaha....nothing wrong with a bonk in public
When you say in public, do you mean in the open air, or in front of other people, because thats how I interperate it, which makes you a dogger, not a naturist. For the uninitiated, a dogger is someone who likes to be watched whilst having sex.
Anyone who hasn't tried al fresco sex is missing out, but I cannot condome sex on a public beach where minors are likely to witness it.
Here in the UK there are doggers meets at various public places, and as you would expect, they try to hide there activites amoungst the naturists on nude beaches. When doggers and swingers try to pass themselves off as naturists it causes great damage to the image of naturism as a wholesome and healthy past time.
Pete Knight
Pete Knight
Even a prude has to be nude ........sometime!! |
JustJim |
Posted - 04/28/2006 : 1:25:34 PM I wish there was some way to get the word out (and have it believed) that nudism and sex are two totally different things. Comments like the one "Muffin" left on here are disingenuous and designed to call attention to ones self, or to illicit responses from those they intend to "rankle". It's like making a racial remark at an NAACP meeting, telling a "Catholic Joke" at the Vatican...etc.. all intended for the purpose of attention and reaction. In all the visits I've made to nudist resorts I've not seen any sexual behavior, any "erections", and quite frankly I've heard FAR fewer and much milder jokes, comments, or remarks about sex in general conversation than you would in any CLOTHED setting. I've never been offended by anything that has occurred at a nudist facility and I"ve always felt far more comfortable with that group...even when I was a newbie stranger...than I do with various other groups of people. Uninitiated people focus ONLY on the idea of exposed body-parts when they hear the word "nudism" and then they apply their OWN mental conclusion of what would happen with this exposure... in essence they are condemning themselves with their own misguided thoughts when they make remarks about "nudists". They're transferring their own thoughts into what they conclude to be OUR actions. It's very narrowminded.
JustJim |
Cheri |
Posted - 04/28/2006 : 09:11:37 AM Nudists don't have sex on the beach. That can and has lost us some of our venues. Nudism has nothing to do with overt sexuality.
Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism - -
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Pete Knight |
Posted - 04/28/2006 : 03:29:05 AM Exhibitionism and voyuerism aren't the same as nudism, I think you are getting a little confused, and bringing nudism into disrepute, its people like you that set nudism back, and get nudist beaches closed down.
IMHO
Pete
Even a prude has to be nude ........sometime!!
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muffin |
Posted - 04/28/2006 : 02:19:24 AM I simply love the beach.
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