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| Admin |
Posted - 07/09/2002 : 4:39:42 PM
The following rules of behavior are typical of what you will encounter at a nudist resort:
DRUG ABUSE
Anyone underage caught drinking alcohol or any individual using illegal controlled substances will be asked to leave the grounds.
Possession and/or use of controlled substances (cocaine, marijuana, etc.) are strictly prohibited.
ALCOHOL ABUSE
Excessive alcohol consumption and/or drunkenness are not tolerated at most nudist resorts.
Alcoholic beverages are sometimes permitted in common areas. Usually no glass containers are allowed on the grounds. Be responsible.
Drink responsibly.
UNWANTED BEHAVIOR
Abusive language, rude, or crude behavior, or advances of an unwelcome or unwanted nature is not acceptable. Avoid loud and aggressive behavior. Your behavior is your passport.
Any behavior or activity that disrupts the harmony and tranquil atmosphere of the club will not be tolerated.
Members and guests are expected to conduct themselves in a manner that would be considered acceptable in most other public gatherings attended by persons of both sexes and all age groups.
Our basic rule is that any behavior which causes others to feel embarrassed or uncomfortable is forbidden. That behavior could include language or actions, unlawful drugs, bringing a camera, or being too "friendly" in a way that causes others to feel defensive.
Be considerate of the rights, safety comfort, and anonymity of others.
Respect the property and privacy of others at all times.
LANGUAGE
Please refrain from sexually explicit language.
PUBLIC AFFECTION
At nudist resorts, no overt sexual activity is permitted. Sexually explicit behavior is unacceptable and could result in loss of membership.
Generally, if it is socially acceptable in a clothed setting, then it is acceptable in a nude setting. Public affection and/or touching among members shall be set to the same standards as acceptable affectionate behavior in a fully clothed public place.
Sexual preference involving consenting adults is an individual's own business if conducted in private. Imposing personal attitudes on others is not acceptable.
[Note: Some resorts observe a 'relaxed' attitude toward sexual behavior. One of the goals of this forum is to help nudists to make informed choices when planning a vacation.]
CHILDREN'S BEHAVIOR
Parents are responsible for the conduct, care and safety of their children at all times. NO CHILD IS TO BE LEFT UNATTENDED. Anyone under the age of 18 must be accompanied by a parent.
Remember that children see and hear everything - act accordingly.
PORNOGRAPHY
While nudist publications and literature are usually acceptable, pornographic or sexually explicit material and literature should be viewed in the privacy of your own home.
SWINGERS
Nudist groups are not sex clubs.
If you are not familiar with the nudist lifestyle, you need to be aware of some things that nudist groups don't offer.
1. A nudist group is not a dating service.
2. A nudist group is not a swingers club.
3. Nudist groups do not allow touching between members outside of that which you would reasonably expect to see at a non-nude social gathering.
Don't come looking for sex. You're only going to be disappointed, and if you offend anyone, you will be permanently barred from the activities.
SUGGESTIVE JEWELRY OR CLOTHING
Some resorts prohibit jewelry which draws attention to the genitals. Same with clothing that is sexy, suggestive, see-through or enticing. Other resorts or clubs have less stringent rules regarding such clothing or jewelry. See your destination's printed rules of behavior for clarification.
PHOTOGRAPHY
ALWAYS ask permission before taking photographs or videos. At a resort, the manager's permission may be required.
Take photographs only with the full consent of subject(s) or in the case of minors, with permission of parents or legal guardians.
SPEAK UP
Members are encouraged to speak up for these standards of conduct.
SHERIFF (at beach or wilderness areas)
Be polite, especially to rangers and sheriff's deputies. At some time you may require help with legal problems regarding your nudity on public beaches, but your behavior could well jeopardize this help.
TOWEL
Nudist clubs require that you sit on your own towel wherever you are nude. |
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| NaturistDoc |
Posted - 09/02/2009 : 3:31:22 PM
I started to respond to the previous post with an assurance that few if any on this particular forum would ever post pictures of our nekkid kids on the 'Net, but I suddenly got very, very tired. Yes, there are pedophiles and assorted other bad people out there, but y'know, not everyone on a Harley is a Hell's Angel, I could go on and on, but why bother? People have their preconceived notions and are eager to believe the worst of people. I'd guess that no amount of reasoned discussion would budge 'momemomeo' from his/her lofty opinions, which leaves me to wonder why such a person would bother to join this forum. |
| momemomeo |
Posted - 09/02/2009 : 3:16:36 PM
I think you nudists are disgusting! I can't believe you parade your nude children and teenagers all over the internet for pedophiles to get their jollies! Absolutely disgusting! Keep it to yourselves or at least keep your kids off the internet until they're old enough to decide for themselves if they want their nude bodies paraded all over the internet. Absolutely disgusting! What ever happened to protecting the innocence of youth! |
| StuffedTiger |
Posted - 04/16/2007 : 02:08:02 AM
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Originally posted by thornapplebison
... Are the genitals a special part of the body, or just another part?
Just another part of the whole.quote:
If they're special and off-limits for touching or jewelry, shouldn't we cover them up? If they can offend people so easily, why not cover them up?
No. Because covering them with textiles, like playing with them or putting jewelry on them makes them special, and they aren't.quote:
... If humans lived naturally, we wouldn't regard each other or ourselves any differently. We'd recognized nudity as a natural state. ...
Yes, and nudity would still be just as sensuous (and with that special someone, sensual) and costuming would be even more fun. |
| thornapplebison |
Posted - 04/14/2007 : 9:33:44 PM
CMx2:
Weird?
Judgements on my post aside, I posed the question seriously. I've been called on it before. Fortunately, my wife was there to fend for me. I'd have had a difficult time by myself.
It's just a gauge of how eroto-phobic people are. Is any genital touching justified? Are the genitals a special part of the body, or just another part? If they're special and off-limits for touching or jewelry, shouldn't we cover them up? If they can offend people so easily, why not cover them up?
To clarify my position, which seems very difficult for me:
I am not a swinger. I am 100% emotionally and physically faithful to my wife. I chose her carefully, and she's all I'll need.
I am sex-positive, but I'm also all in favor of good manners. I have nothing against a woman with erect nipples in warm weather or a man with an erect penis in a non-sexual environment. I do think that anyone who wants to have sex or masturbate should take it some place private, as sexuality is sacred and should only be shared with those who appreciate it in that setting, time and company.
However, sex, per se, is part of life and is no more sacred than eating food or rubbing a sore foot. However, it's in the best interest of our own bodies and our emotional relationships to our partners to make it more special than it naturally is. Sexiness is involved with artifice: presentation and timing. My fear is not that inappropriate sexual expression will spoil the experience of nudity. My fear is that it will spoil the miracle of loving sex.
The body, however, is a piece of meat that is slowly dying. There is nothing special about it apart from our feelings about it. If we wish to enjoy our time in it, I say we should. There is a unique pleasure that comes from living naked under the sun and in free air. There is a bond between those of us who share our unobscured bodies, but this is not natural. It's entirely a result of our clothed culture. If humans lived naturally, we wouldn't regard each other or ourselves any differently. We'd recognized nudity as a natural state.
This recognition of nudity as something unusual is self-betrayal. We make it special and positive for the same reasons the textiles make it special and negative. It comes down to the amount of sensual pleasure and natural freedom we and the textiles and the swingers are willing to allow ourselves, and our reasons for our choices.
I draw the line only here: emotional relationships. I say, be as free and natural as you can. If you go around boffing everything that moves without regard to person, time or place, nothing will be special to you and you'll fail to form emotional bonds that can stand up to the tests of modern living. For that reason, it's in each person's best interest to show some discretion. Beyond that self-interest, there's no reason to bother other than unreasonable societal constraints.
My goal is to examine social constraints with the forum-contributors and determine for myself which are reasonable and which are not.
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| CMx2 |
Posted - 04/14/2007 : 4:48:48 PM
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Originally posted by thornapplebison
Here's a question for the group:
A man is laying down and part of his scrotum is uncomfortably squishing between his thighs. Blatantly, in full view, and with total disregard as to whether he's being watched or not, he quickly adjusts himself.
Faux pas?
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I'm guessing that this is a joke. Lets not hijack this thread to make some sort of weird nudist satire. |
| thornapplebison |
Posted - 04/14/2007 : 3:11:03 PM
Here's a question for the group:
A man is laying down and part of his scrotum is uncomfortably squishing between his thighs. Blatantly, in full view, and with total disregard as to whether he's being watched or not, he quickly adjusts himself.
Faux pas?
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| thornapplebison |
Posted - 04/14/2007 : 2:52:07 PM
I find it depressing that I must either put up with the occasional look of disdain or the occasional man blatantly gawking at or even masturbating while staring at my wife. My wife and I don't find the typical nudist resort to be a complete paradise, but we'd find Hedonism pure hell.
And just for the record, those clubs that have churches should probably do what the rest of society should do, and keep the church within the church. The rest of us have our own form of communion.
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| CMx2 |
Posted - 04/14/2007 : 06:18:32 AM
Well I don't think you'll have a hard time finding a resort with people that are like-minded with yourself. From what I hear, there are several popular ones out there.
But you shouldn't attempt to impose your ideals on the nudist community any more that we should attempt to impose our ideals on a "hedonism" type resort.
And just for the record, I believe there are several nudist clubs that do indeed have church services. |
| thornapplebison |
Posted - 04/14/2007 : 06:07:57 AM
I find these arguments quite acceptable. If you find the behavior I mentioned offensive in a clothed setting, then it's perfectly reasonable that you'd be offended with it in a nude setting. I've been living in Europe for the past few years, and people are much less concerned with other's behavior here. This is probably where our disconnect occurs.
My arguments are based rather specifically on the clothes-free philosophy, as opposed to a nudist philosophy. In clothes-free thinking, it is not normal to wear clothes when the weather doesn't make it necessary. The clothed state is the unnatural state. This being the case, people should get over the whole nudity thing and act as if they were in a natural state, because they are. To adopt special rules of behavior beyond the requirement of a towel just reinforces the unusualness and therefore unnaturalness of the naked state.
I am not suggesting that we change rules because of the tourism industry. I am suggesting that we should stop acting like we've got something to be ashamed of, or that we're a persecuted minority, or that we've got to be people Jerry Falwell would really like if he could just get past our nudity. We are a growing cultural and economic force, and should start acting and thinking like it. Some nudists might really like Mr. Falwell, and I wish them happiness. But we're at a resort or we're in our homes or we're at some retreat...we're not in church. Maybe we should relax a bit.
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| CMx2 |
Posted - 04/14/2007 : 05:49:37 AM
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Originally posted by thornapplebison
If you believe that nude living is just as normal as clothed living, if not more so, then you should apply the same rules to both circumstances.
SNIP
This is why you're post is in my opinion flawed. The first assumption you made was an incorrect one. And thus, the rest of your statements followed suit.
All of a sudden, the entire "nudist movement" needs to apply rules requiring nudists to behave like clothed people??? Because of a booming tourist industry???
Your main evidence to prove your argument is an activity which is not considered acceptable in a typical clothed OR nudist environment.
It appears that you are arguing that because you may come across inappropriate behavior in a clothed environment, that that same behavior should be acceptable in a nudist environtment.
Surely I must be missing the point.
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| StuffedTiger |
Posted - 04/12/2007 : 10:41:15 PM
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Originally posted by thornapplebison
... If clothed people can walk around with genital-piercing jewelry, so should nude people.
Hmmm. Clothed people actually cannot walk around with genital-piercing jewelry on display. I think nothing of it, but now I can see how some people might find it offensive. Are you saying that this should be restricted in the rules? I think it should be determined locally.quote:
If clothed people can ... have a little make-out session in public, so should nude people.
Don't know about where you live, but where I live, we never see clothed people having make-out sessions in public (we have made out hidden from sight, so it does happen). According to your approach, we should never see it at a nudist beach, but it is seen on occasion, and does make people uncomfortable. That should not be permitted IMHO.quote:
Let's say you saw a clothed couple making out on a bench in a mall. The guy was wearing loose pants and obviously sporting an erection. Would you politely ask the couple to go somewhere private?
I would call security, but I have never seen that. I expect not to have to deal with that at the mall, and I don't see why I should have to deal with that in a nudist environment.quote:
We should be tolerant of the differences within our own quickly growing sub-culture.
Yes. Particularly with teens and young adults.
Are people more tolerant once they get to know you? I think so. That's not easy in a resort situation unless you live there. That's why I think travel clubs will always have a solid place in nudism.
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| thornapplebison |
Posted - 04/12/2007 : 02:36:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Cheri
thornapplebison,
Yes, nude living is just as normal as clothed living. However, we have lost some of our nude/nudist venues because of overt sexuality. When a young couple gets intimate in the mall, they could be hauled off to jail or have the mall closed to youngsters without parental supervision. THAT has happened in several locations of which I'm aware. We need to put limits on nudist behaviour if we want to keep the nudist locales available.
Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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I understand the practical nature of your reply, Cheri, and appreciate your sincerity.
It reflects the mentality of an endangered fringe sub-culture, which nudism used to be in the States. It is not that anymore. In just the last 10 years it has gone from a multi-million dollar tourist niche to a multi-billion dollar niche in the U.S. alone. If there is still a fight to preserve nudism in the U.S., it is no longer the fight of a group of free-thinkers who enjoy the practice. It is the fight of a large cartel of tourism businesses, which comprise one of the largest segments of the global economy.
There is greater freedom, in this context and with this backing, to re-think the rules and bring them more in line with the fundamental philosophy of clothes-free culture.
Perhaps I'm a bit early. I'll allow that I might be. But not by much. It is time we begin to recognize ourselves as a very quickly growing economic and cultural power.
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| thornapplebison |
Posted - 04/12/2007 : 02:24:53 AM
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Originally posted by bk-yd-nude
thornapplebison, Thank you for your opinion and comments. Mine differ somewhat from yours. I believe ... The owners and/or board of the nudist organization has the right and privilege (and duty) to establish their rules. We have the obligaion, as visitors and/or members of THEIR club or resort, to abide by their rules. However, if we choose to make our own rules or follow those of another culture, then I suppose we could start our own club or resort. Otherwise, I for one intend to follow the rules of the club or resort that I enter as an invitee. oh, by the way, I also agree with their rules of behavior.
bk-yd-nude
Quote from my earlier post: All these set rules are sincerely within the rights of the people who own the places we congregate. If we don't like the rules, we can move on.
Sounds like we're in agreement, then.
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| bk-yd-nude |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 10:14:09 PM
thornapplebison, Thank you for your opinion and comments. Mine differ somewhat from yours. I believe ... The owners and/or board of the nudist organization has the right and privilege (and duty) to establish their rules. We have the obligaion, as visitors and/or members of THEIR club or resort, to abide by their rules. However, if we choose to make our own rules or follow those of another culture, then I suppose we could start our own club or resort. Otherwise, I for one intend to follow the rules of the club or resort that I enter as an invitee. oh, by the way, I also agree with their rules of behavior.
bk-yd-nude
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| Cheri |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 4:41:26 PM
thornapplebison,
Yes, nude living is just as normal as clothed living. However, we have lost some of our nude/nudist venues because of overt sexuality. When a young couple gets intimate in the mall, they could be hauled off to jail or have the mall closed to youngsters without parental supervision. THAT has happened in several locations of which I'm aware. We need to put limits on nudist behaviour if we want to keep the nudist locales available.
Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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