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| sailawaybob |
Posted - 11/01/2012 : 11:09:18 PM
I'm sure most have read that it is legal to be nude in public in San Francisco but now it seems the city is getting ready to vote to change that and the nude supporters had a nude sit in protest the other day. Now since most - hopefully all of us are nudist who do you support in SF the nudist or city hall and would you support your local government if they allowed citizens to be nude on your city streets ? would you join in and be nude ? |
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| sailawaybob |
Posted - 01/22/2013 : 8:19:02 PM
again there is a difference between being nude and being lewd, if you read most laws it talks about being nude in public than being lewd in public yes most places both are illegal but there is a huge difference between the two, actually i've seen alot of textiles being lewd in public and no one bats a eye if i got nude in public alot of eyes would bat and i would probably go to jail - so whats the difference if both are illegal ? |
| Warmskin |
Posted - 01/21/2013 : 04:09:33 AM
They could divide the city into two parts - one for nudists and one for textiles. Naturally, the portion of for the textiles would be the larger of the two. All that would would have to be decided is - which part of the city is for nudists.
We need a special prosecuter to investigate this city government's cover-up.
“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
Ben Franklin
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| Bob Knows |
Posted - 01/08/2013 : 10:36:20 PM
I can't help but wonder if Councilman Weiner and perhaps the others were being paid by the clothing/retail industry to keep clothing mandatory in SF. If naked became popular the clothing stores could lose a ton of business. As it became more and more common to be naked in SF, the clothing industry may have become worried enough to become major players in the economics of politics. Follow the MONEY is always a good way to analyze every political decision.
Bob Knows. |
| nudesunguy |
Posted - 01/06/2013 : 10:30:21 AM
Looks like they removed the link for some reason (maybe by mistake).
That's a cool online mag. Thanks for posting, Diger.
The more I was thinking about this entire San Fran nudity ban, the more I realized what it came down to: MONEY. Notice they specifically said (right up front) that nudity at the Gay Parade and Bay to Breakers would not be affected. Why? Because these events draw huge crowds (nudity is part of the draw) and thus bring money to the city, while a bunch of old guys naked in the Castro might actually HURT tourism. Very few phrases more accurate than" "Follow the money."
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| free2be |
Posted - 01/05/2013 : 6:38:00 PM
Thanks for providing the update nudesunguy. The link didn't work but I do agree with the statement that "Guys walking around with "sex enhancement devices" are getting lumped in with nudists by the general public and doing all nudists a disservice". |
| Diger |
Posted - 01/05/2013 : 3:29:39 PM
Not all the naked people in SF were exhibitionist, seems there were a few others out there spreading a positive image.
Here is a link to a wonderful online magazine from Vita Nudes:
http://issuu.com/nudazine/docs/fall2012?mode=window&backgroundColor#222222
Check out page 49, it showes a group of young nudists spreading a positive image in SF.
I have to say these young people are getting it right.
Diger |
| Diger |
Posted - 11/20/2012 : 10:32:09 AM
Thanks it's nice to get the rest of the story.
Diger |
| nudesunguy |
Posted - 11/19/2012 : 10:32:46 AM
Here's an update in which we get down to the nitty gritty:
Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray Winpsett, 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who would prefer not to see the body modifications and sex enhancement devices sported by some of the Castro nudists. But he thinks Wiener's prohibition goes too far in undermining a tradition "that keeps San Francisco weird."
"A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself in a light and show what true nudity is all about so people can separate the difference between what a nudist is and an exhibitionist is."
I have to agree. Guys walking around with "sex enhancement devices" are getting lumped in with nudists by the general public and doing all nudists a disservice.
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NUDITY_BAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-11-18-15-45-34
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| allnaturalwife |
Posted - 11/18/2012 : 10:00:08 PM
My daughter and her family live in San Francisco and there has always been a pretty "liberal" stance on nudity in public there. IE: Bay too Breakers, Naked Bike Ride, Pride parades..as well as many other events where nudity is allowed. What were talking about here is public nudity on a day to day basis. It also depends where in the city you are talking about. You can't just walk around naked in the tourist areas or downtown in the Financial district for gods sake..never could. But out towards Golden Gate Park or Ocean beach you will come across a people au natural.
Again in the middle of the park sunbathing you aren't usually bothered. You walk into a gas station buck naked no matter where you are your gonna get the cops called. Just a little common sense would go along way.
The entire city of SF is NOT a nudist resort..nowhere is.
Jenn |
| rooftopwilly |
Posted - 11/18/2012 : 9:08:44 PM
I can see both sides of this. On one hand, Bob is right. If there is no law against public nudity, then the people of San Francisco have every right to take advantage of that and be outdoors if they like, whether or not the other people like it. However, the people that don't like it, just see them as "those creepy old guys" and then they start to scream for legislation to ban nudity in public. |
| nudesunguy |
Posted - 11/18/2012 : 10:56:41 AM
I don't exactly follow your logic, but the bottom line is that naked old guys sitting on street benches (without towels in some cases) is doing nothing to help bring nudists into mainstream acceptance, and might be hurting the cause. Just my opinion, based on what I've heard of people's reactions...it sort of vindicates their preconceived notion that nudists are just a bunch of perverted, male, exhibitionists. A nudist family having a picnic in an SF park would be a much more positive image, but I've yet to hear of that. I was encouraged that there was at least one woman at the hearing on the ordinance.
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| Bob Knows |
Posted - 11/17/2012 : 2:59:08 PM
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Originally posted by nudesunguy
I think a lot of people feel there is a fine line between being a nudist and being a nudist and rubbing it in the general public's face, if you'll pardon the expression. I think most people are OK with people playing volleyball naked in a park or on a beach, or marching in a parade, but it's another to see some guy sitting naked on a street bench every time you're taking grandma out to get ice cream. I'm not saying I agree with the objections, but rather this is how most people see it, and most form their opinions about nudists in general from these encounters.
I disagree completely. Why should the clothing compulsive be allowed to force their views on everyone else? What about them "rubbing it in the general public's face"? I think most people are OK with seeing clothed people on the street or playing volleyball clothed, but its another thing to see a clothed person sitting on a bench every time you're taking grandma out for ice cream. I disagree with the assertion that clothed people have a right to force their body shame on everyone else.
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| Diger |
Posted - 11/16/2012 : 3:34:43 PM
I just wonder how widespread the knowledge is that nudity is legal in SF? Also the ones that do know may not want to be seen in the same light as the exhibitionists.
Let’s just hope that if these same opportunities arise in other cities that the local nudist can take advantage of their freedoms.
Diger |
| nudesunguy |
Posted - 11/16/2012 : 10:38:33 AM
I think a lot of people feel there is a fine line between being a nudist and being a nudist and rubbing it in the general public's face, if you'll pardon the expression. I think most people are OK with people playing volleyball naked in a park or on a beach, or marching in a parade, but it's another to see some guy sitting naked on a street bench every time you're taking grandma out to get ice cream. I'm not saying I agree with the objections, but rather this is how most people see it, and most form their opinions about nudists in general from these encounters.
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| sailawaybob |
Posted - 11/15/2012 : 11:16:03 PM
my thinking in this since your a nudist and live in SF why not take advantage of it, go to the mailbox, cut the grass run to the gas station or store and quit making nudism a secret society. i remember back in the 80's just getting involved in nudism and everyone using only their first names and talking about work or where you lived seemed taboo. weather permitting it seems nudist would take advantage of this or maybe there are no nudist in SF. i wish they would make it legal in miami or key west i'd pack my bag and head south. |
