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gramm Posted - 10/15/2008 : 4:55:45 PM
It seems like more resorts that used to be family friendly are soliciting swingers now. What do you think?
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Nudony Posted - 12/30/2016 : 10:17:39 AM
I was at Gunnison once with my best friend, sitting behind a small group of people - including one woman. I noticed something "weird" going on as other men started coming up to them and plopping down really close to them. It then became clear that they were engaging in some sort of public masturbation group session. My best friend and I just looked at each other, jaws dropped, in complete disbelief of what was happening in front of our eyes. Suddenly I heard a woman screaming from the top of her lungs; it was a beach regular who had just seen what was happening. She jumped up and ran to the park ranger while the "culprits" scurried about like rats in sunlight. My best friend and I were in sheer amazement of what had just transpired. There were many kids on the beach that day; and that event became the main reason why I decided to never take my daughter to a nude beach.

Those type of events do happen at the nude beach; sometimes more covertly, less often openly. I for one do not begrudge anyone's sexual proclivity; but there is a time and place for it. I believe in strictly regulating sexual behavior, except in those places where it is openly permitted, because those types of behavior can actually kill nude beaches (as in Mazo Beach.)

I have met a nudist swinger couple; I had a chat with the woman and she was very respectful as far as not mixing her sexual practice with social nudism. I'd like to believe the average swinger has those same values. It is the faction that wants to "push the envelope" that creates an issue.



soonbnude Posted - 12/30/2016 : 06:46:24 AM
Last year I had the experience of a younger woman who was near me with a group of others going into the sand dunes near me with a number of men 3 of which were sporting erections. They came back some time later not as they were and she went straight into the water and cleaned herself and was joking about the mess these guys had made.

While I like sex very much I think there is a time and a place and a public beach (albeit a nude or CO beach) with lots of other people close by is not the place. Call me old fashioned.

This type of behaviour does get nudists and nude beaches a bad reputation. As do the guys trooping through the dunes trying to pick up and after a quick encounter.

I haven't tried swinging as such with the keys in the bowl thing or whatever but each to their own. Don't believe a free beach is it.

SBN.
allnaturalwife Posted - 01/06/2010 : 11:09:46 PM
As Ive said many times...I have no problem with swingers, to each their own, of course no problem with nudists:). One can be both, obviously...I do not think the lifestyles overlap AT ALL. The people in them might do one or both..but the 2 lifestyles represent VERY different things.

Jenn

nudesunguy Posted - 01/03/2010 : 12:39:12 PM
From my 30 years of experience, I've discovered that most nudist resorts have a fairly large percentage of swingers. It's just a fact. For the most part, swingers are very discreet about their lifestyle, and don't cause any trouble (they don't talk sex in front of kids, for example). So nudists and swingers overlap and co-exist nicely from what I've seen. It's all about respecting the other person's lifestyle choice.

If, as a nudist, you think swingers are disgusting, don't forget some clothed people think nudists are disgusting. Kind of puts it all in perspective, doesn't it?

Just for the record, my wife and I are not swingers.

Nude4lifeLV Posted - 09/21/2009 : 11:39:38 PM
I'm new to this site, but have been reading the posts for a bit today. My Husband and I are both nudist's and swingers. I think a lot of the people on these boards feel the same way I do (don't get riled up, let me finish... ) I think there is a place for both, just not together. You wouldn't go to Burger King and ask for Mexican... :}

Dan and TC ;-}
There comes a point in your life when you realize who matters, who never did, who won't anymore, and who always will. So don't worry about people from your past, there's a reason why they didn't make it to your future!!!
boobiebear Posted - 09/21/2009 : 11:13:51 PM
I am new to this site and some of the views that people have are just as out of focus as saying that everyone should be just the same as everyone else. Everyone has different ideas as to what is right or wrong, but to put a tag on a group of people because one or two people think that the morals of that group might be in question. I agree that some in the swinging lifestyle are only in it to rack up numbers (just like they did when they were younger and less mature) but that however does not apply to all. Rules are ment to be followed and morals are put into place to guide you thru your life, and to say that nudist can not be swingers and swingers can not be nudist is just a "Catch-22" and it is just the mind set of the few trying to instill their morals on the general population to make things better in their own minds, when that may not really be the true answer to the question that has plagued them since their own childhood.
Cookie Posted - 08/16/2009 : 4:07:28 PM
HI:

It is finally hot and we have approx 12 nudist couples and a few singles around our pool. The question came up about swingers. There are two couples in our group who are nudist and swingers. We were invited to a party at their house last year. We had no idea they were swingers, and we were taken by surprise. It was a very interesting evening and Mrs. Cookie and I sat back and took in the particapation from afar.

During the evening, we felt that everyone was enjoying themselves an nobody was hurting someone.

Since then we have gone to a couple of their parties, and we have never been pressured into doing anything we did not want to do.

By the way we did not do "anything"!!

Remember, we are here for a short time, so let's have a good time.

Cookie
2newnudists Posted - 08/12/2009 : 9:42:19 PM
Sorry about that. Thank you for clarifying what I was stating about the banner.

We think it is pretty tasteless on - -'s part to allow their banner to be advertised on such a site. What kind of message is that sending about the Resort?

Thank you!

nud·ism (ndzm, ny-)n.
What God originally intended.
Admin Posted - 08/12/2009 : 12:10:10 AM
We had to remove that link to the swinger club website, because of the graphic images in the banner rotation on that front page. We generally don't allow links to swinger sites unless they are unusually careful not to include graphic imagery or text throughout the entire website, and are information/educational only.

What 2newnudists is describing is a horizontal banner 730x90 pixels appearing at the bottom of a Tampa Bay area swing club's index page in rotation with other banners advertising adult clubs, sex devices, and other sexual content.

As long as the link remains live, here is the banner alone. [link]

It is an ad for - - Vacation Club. It says "2009 Vacation Club Special! Want an endless summer where the fun never ends? Experience - - Luxury at a discount with our Summer Vacation Club Special!"

The images used in the banner are tasteful, suggesting a young couple enjoying simple nudity on vacation. However, it does in fact appear on a swinger lifestyle website in rotation with overtly graphic sexual ads.
2newnudists Posted - 08/11/2009 : 7:47:07 PM
I don't think Swingers are out to Hijack Naturism, I believe the Resort owners are doing a good job of that on their own.

I understand in this economy, business owners will do just about anything to boost business & increase sales. Thus, having large groups of Swingers come in to spend money every weekend.

However, I don't think - - should allow Swinger sites to advertise them as such as this Swingers site does:

[link deleted]

You may have to hit refresh once or twice for the - - banner to come up.


Edited by - Admin to remove link to swinger website with graphic imagery.
VLM34 Posted - 07/13/2009 : 06:45:31 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sanoinsc



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Most places are up front about their policies and others are simply well known for them. Either way, it isn't exactly a secret and if someone wants one thing or the other, it is up to THEM to make sure they don't wind up in the wrong environment.


It _ought_ to be up to them, but they don't see it that way.

I had a session once with the preacher of the only church near a c-o beach that was under attack. He'd been roiling up his flock, sermon after sermon. His attitude was absolutely without a hint of compromise: "I have the right to go anywhere without seeing sin. Nudity is sin. Sin is contagious. I don't want to be contaminated. My eternal soul is at risk. Therefore, the c-o beach must be closed."

The leader of the anti-beach crowd was from the preachers flock. He could see the beach from his property, but only if he perched on the highest spot on his land and used binoculars. He didn't like nudity at all, and was enraged by homosexuality. He'd go berserk at the sight of a penis ring, which he believed was solely a homosexual practice. His attitude was similar to that of his preacher's. "I have the right to spend every weekend on that high spot surveying the area with binoculars. I must not see anything that displeases me. Those blankety-blank nudes displease me. Those blankety-blankety-blank gays are an abomination unto the Lord. Therefore, the beach must be closed."

We see some quite similar attitudes here in NRO, and elsewhere, as regards swingers. Swingers, whether actually swinging or not, must not cross their gaze.
fullydressedguy Posted - 07/13/2009 : 03:49:36 AM
Hi everyone. I'm the opposite of the guy that posted above me, my wife is the nudist, I'm not, but we are both swingers. My wife and kids are often nude around the house, but I insist the kids(4 and 7) are dressed at the beach(we don't belong to a club, but we go to the unofficial nude beaches here on Oahu), because of the creepy guys with sunglasses in the treeline.

Anyways, on topic. I find it a bit bizarre that anyone would think swingers as a group have any kind of agenda at all. We don't have a governing body, a newsletter, or monthly meetings. It's not the VFW. It's just a classification for those that share a non traditional view on sex. It's like saying 'people that enjoy oral sex' are out to hijack naturism. I've seen way more of that between 'vanilla'(mono) couples on the beach than I have ever seen any swinging. Yes, some swingers(mono's, Catholics, equestrians, accountants...) behave inappropriately.

Also, as a non nudist swinger, who also attends a nude beach 3 to 4 times a week with my nudist wife, it's a bit insulting to assume I don't know how to separate the two. I'll admit I was a little excited before my first time(I was also 22,lol), but that ended about 5 minutes into the reality. Sure, I'll check out a good looking woman, but so do 90% of guys on a 'clothed beach'. I don't stare though. As a matter of fact, I look less in a nude environment, because for some strange reason, many nudist seem hypersensitive about being looked at at all. It seems counter productive.

Not to mention, you guys should attend some 'non nude' beaches here in Hawaii, if you think lewd behavior is limited to swingers at nude spots. I have seen unbelievable behavior from non swinging couples on non nude beaches.

That being said, the biggest threat our local nude beach(especially as they are technically illegal in the first place), is gay men using them as 'cruising' and hook up spots. But, I don't think they have some agenda to 'hijack' the nude beach. I think it's just convenient for them, and until nude beaches are not so rare, they will continue to attract those type of people(gay or straight), that participate in that kind of thing.
NakedOpeness Posted - 05/07/2009 : 1:26:49 PM
My wife and I are swingers, but I am the only nudist in this relationship. She knows this, and accepts it. I want to raise our kids as nudists as well (we don't have any yet).

Don't think that all swingers have sex on the mind 24/7! We're human too! Sometimes, it's nice just to be naked, sex or not. We want to raise our kids that way too. To feel comfortable in their bodies, but also to be aware of human sexuality, and not be laden with jealousy, as so many "vanillas" are.

Yes, it'll be a tight rope, but one I'd rather deal with at the start, than have my kids be embarrassed of their bodies or their sexuality (my parents are prudes in every sense!).

I am naked all the time. At the house, outside (weather and law permitting), socially (when permitted). In the summer, if I'm not working, what do i wear? Tan-through shorts, tan-through short shorts, tan-through speedos, G-string, or naked (depending on conditions). Unfortunately we don't have any nudist friends :( . We do have swinger friends (some we have sex with, some we don't), but they certainly are not nudists!

Clothing should always be optional!
Teva Posted - 03/09/2009 : 11:47:14 AM
sanoinsc, I am disagreeing with you in that children and families have always been a part of GymnoVita in AL and Sunair Health Park in SC since their inception. I know Sunair started in the 50s. I do not know when GymnoVita started. God help anyone who was less than family-friendly there back then let alone now.
Teva
lazarus Posted - 03/09/2009 : 11:43:35 AM
quote:
Originally posted by go n nude
Resorts desperate for money, maybe they should lower their fee's and ask themselves which will it be families or swingers,...

go n nude



Lowering fee's would only work if there was sufficient increase in traffic to make up for the lost revenue and actually generate an increase in revenue.

And let us not forget. Bigger numbers at a lower rate, still means bigger costs in maintenance, supplies etc.

Doesn't work in nudism. It works only where the market is sufficiently large. Nudists who actually leave their computers and go to clubs/resorts are a mere handful compared to other tourist groups.
And the family types don't seem to spend or be willing to spend on the level that others do.

A local travel group held two potlucks this winter at our club. $10 per person. Dismal attendance despite it being well promoted among local nudist groups, both on and off the net. They had lots of people saying they would come, but still where it counts... at the gate, next to nil.



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