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Admin
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 Posted - 03/23/2006 : 11:58:09 PM
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I do appreciate some of the creative minds we have here. I just thought we'd all like to know that even the most trusted nudist organization we've all been paying into for years sometimes uses our own money to help severely fine and imprison those that won't pay them to be nudists.
I wouldn't say so if it didn't happen on the floor of the Maryland Senate.
You shouldn't have to pay to be nude with like minded people, in appropriate places compatible with local customs.
Perhaps we need an AANR Watchdog Group, to keep those juicy back office opportunities from getting out of hand, and becoming further examples of corporate sellout.
I transcribed that long piece from the actual live recordings to bring to light what REALLY HAPPENS when our rights are on the line, and who really benefits. It should be better for ALL nudists, not just certain PAYING nudists at the expense and imprisonment of others.
Just wanted to keep this thread on topic. If enough people speak out about this, our awareness can change a lot.
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GeeWilly
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Posted - 03/24/2006 : 1:09:59 PM
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Nudity may not be a stated fundamental right, as such, but it may tag along with the additional fundamental right of privacy that exists alongside specifically mentioned constitutional rights.
Which is a lengthy manner of saying that while it may not be required, it seems probable that it may not be denied (provided such is confined to reasonably limited environments.)
Education both as to the positive results of nudism and as to just what naturism is NOT is clearly mandatory. Just reading Admin's record of the Maryland legislature at work questions whether that body knows what the AANR is. There seems almost an assumption that AANR stands for ALL nudist activities in this country.
Sorry, curious1, that when you took off your clothes to go nude, so to speak, no weapons of mass destruction were found. This particular forum branch is discussing a political point relevant to nudism. Can't be helped.
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Posted - 05/14/2006 : 4:22:56 PM
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Disorganized nudity will be just that. One voice for all who belong to the American Association for Nude Recreation representing all members in Canada and North America. The bigger the voice the louder it becomes, I'm sure they'll support all members in fact they do. Join this Association to trully impact our rights and insure we have them to enjoy our Lifestyle.
go n nude
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Admin
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 04:10:18 AM
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One voice, and only one voice allowed by law, equals dictatorship. I support choices.
One should be able to hold a membership card from The Naturist Society, for instance, and be admitted to organized events without fear of arrest.
Would you allow AANR to put TNS out of business, unable to even call a TNS Gathering without everyone paying AANR? Should AANR be allowed to abuse the place of respect WE elevated them to with our dues money, only to see TNS reduced to another nudist magazine publisher?
I feel AANR lying to the Senators about what is valid in nudism (only AANR) is a great disservice to us all.
This nudist, and I'm sure many others, prefer choices in organizations to support. The Naturist Society, BEACHES (Haulover), and several other organizations deserving respect for what they've done for nudism, have every right AANR has to hold meetings for nudists to gather.
Or DON'T they?
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Cheri
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 09:55:24 AM
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TNS does have gatherings to which TNS membership is requested.
The best thing, if you can afford it, would be support TNS as well as AANR and all organizations that support our way of life PLUS the American Nudist Research Library and the Naturist Action Committee.
Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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vealj
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 3:36:42 PM
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Originally posted by Admin
This nudist, and I'm sure many others, prefer choices in organizations to support. The Naturist Society, BEACHES (Haulover), and several other organizations deserving respect for what they've done for nudism, have every right AANR has to hold meetings for nudists to gather.
Or DON'T they?
Yes they do for sure but I get real tired of all the bickering between the two organizations. We don't have enough card-carrying nudists in this country to afford infighting among the various groups trying to put forth our cause which this nudist believes should be the unfettered right to enjoy a nude lifestyle as long as we don't harm others. Note: It is NOT harmful to anyone to just see a nude body despite what the prudes running this country might say.
Unfortunately, members of most of the nudist groups tend to get side-tracked amongst themselves arguing about how we go about achieving or just preserving what rights we have left.
I am like Cheri, I support every nudist group I can find. I am a member of AANR, TNS, FCN, CCBN, INF, NAC, CFI, ANRL and every other pro-nudist group I come across.
Take care and ...
Keep it Bare !!!
- veal
Web:http://www.vealj.com/naturist.html
Nudist Blog: http://360.yahoo.com/vealj
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 6:20:49 PM
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I agree and support those who support many organizations. That's freedom after all. I'm still surprised how reluctant people are to criticize AANR, even if it's well placed. If I could change one thing, it would be this heavy-handed and destructive approach on the part of AANR. Without it, they could come into a true leadership role, with the extra respect that brings.
Think this one through, everyone. If AANR had been successful in Maryland (which they only failed by, what, 2 votes?), TNS would have to have each TNS Gathering attendee hold a valid AANR card before they could guarantee protection from arrest should they choose to meet in Maryland. AANR actually worked to support that increase of fines from $25 to $500, and the added imprisonment of 6 months. They must have realized the effect this would have on all Maryland nudists supporting TNS, but they just lumped all those folks in with the nude dance bars as appropriate targets for imprisonment.
I am deeply disappointed in AANR, in whom we have trusted the future of nudism. Who in those offices decided the absolute removal of TNS and other competitors in Maryland was in the best interest of nude recreation in the Americas? Are they hurting so much for membership that this is necessary?
Let me repeat, AANR has accomplished amazing things and AANR members have reason to be proud. But using heavy-handed political tactics behind the scenes just serves to keep other organizations from ever trusting or working with AANR.
Divided often soon means conquered.
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rabbitnbunny
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Posted - 08/12/2012 : 3:20:06 PM
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Only someone with their head firmly planted in the sand, believes AANR cares about all nudists. They only care about their paying membership and resorts. The only time they really put their money where their mouth is, is when a change in the law effects their cash cows (resorts). If it's nude beaches, or generations old nude use natural areas, you get nothing from AANR apart from a little lip service to make themselves look good.
I've seen them send delegations to state assemblies if a law is proposed that will affect them, or their resorts. If a law will affect beaches and such, they MIGHT send a letter. Whoopdie fizz.
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Bob Knows
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Posted - 08/13/2012 : 12:56:41 AM
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Yes. AANR is run by resort owners. Their mission is to keep general nudity illegal so people will only be able to go naked at an AANR resort. Laws against public nudity are the feed stock of AANR profits. Its quite different from the goals of many actual nudists and TNS.
AANR walks a fine line. They want nudity to be legal at private resorts run by their member clubs, but illegal on public parks or streets so we have to pay them and their member clubs to get naked. If public nudity ever becomes legal the nudist resorts would cease to have a reason to exist, or would have to compete straight up with other resorts.
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Posted - 08/13/2012 : 06:44:23 AM
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AS always its all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and IF you really think otherwise, your very naive
Live love and have fun
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nudesunguy
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Posted - 08/13/2012 : 10:19:55 AM
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Yep, money makes the world go round. I don't see this changing anytime soon.
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