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Jochanaan
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Posted - 12/01/2004 : 10:24:59 PM
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COBALT_Blue, you seem to be a victim of many misconceptions about nudism/naturism; not surprising if you spend time googling naturism or nudism. We come in all kinds, of course, and some of us go nude just because it's more convenient when they want to swing or whatever. Others would deny any aspect of sexuality in their nudist activities. But most nudists I know are no more nor less sexual or erotic in their nudism than the average person is in daily life. The "connection" between nudity and sex is only in the minds of pornographers!
What nudists/naturists all have in common is a comfort with nudity. It soon becomes de-sexualized, at least in my experience. True, there may be some bad apples around, maybe many; but that's just the result of bad social conditioning. A proper introduction to nudism goes a long way toward correcting the misunderstandings most non-nudists have about our lives.
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Ashley
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 07:38:45 AM
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I'd like to risk a question that I hope isn't taken as offensive by anyone. The only reason I ask is to see if others either secretly, quietly, or openly admit to feeling the same way in nude venues, or is it just lack of experience on my part.
I think the answers may vary depending on whether the respondent is primarily a participant at AANR-type nudist facilities or if they are primarily nude at beach resorts...but we shall see. The question is:
When you are participating in nude recreation, do you feel a "sense" of enjoyment that is derived from some degree of satisfying a (secret) "voyeur/exhibitionist tendency" that is within you?
The reason I ask is that I haven't yet reached that "sense of maturity" that allows total non-chalance with being nude, being seen nude, or seeing others nude. I do notice that the longer I'm on the beach nude during a day, the less "charged" about it I feel and the more "relaxed" I become. However, each day when I first arrive, the act of disrobing among strangers gives me a feeling of sensuality and, frankly, that I"m doing something I've been taught all my life is "naughty", and therefore has a tinge of eroticism attached to it. (Latent Exhibitionism traits?)
Similarly, though I'm reluctant to admit this here among purists for fear of being ostracized, when guys arrive on the scene and disrobe... yes, I will look.. (Latent Voyeurism traits?).
I don't pose, preen, or arrange myself in a suggestive way at any time... nor do I stare at men in a lacivious manner... I simply am saying that I'm not to the point that I "could care less" if someone is nude or if someone is seeing me nude.
I welcome comments, good-bad-indifferent.
Be gentle...it's only a question :)
Ash
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Cheri
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 09:15:36 AM
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Ash, What you are experiencing is quite normal for someone of your age. As you experience nudism and nudist venues more often, that titilation will eventually subside. That was me about 30 years ago. :)
Hugs, Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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tinaland
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 Posted - 03/07/2005 : 5:49:51 PM
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Ash,
I agree with Cheri - but also to some degree with you, and I am 37. I too get a thrill sometimes of disrobing - I am proud of my body, and like to show it off. So I can relate to what you are saying. As for looking at cute guys - well, if they were dressed no one would think twice about it. So as long as you aren't leering or being rude, I see no problem with doing what you are doing. I met my b/f at a nudist gathering, in fact I had seen him nude 5 times before ever seeing him clothed. And yes, I thought he was hot the first time I saw him. As long as you follow established rules of ettiquette, there is nothing wrong wiith what you describe. It just means you are healthy girl.
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james423
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 10:28:08 PM
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I agree with Cheri -I think that initially you have more of a tendency to have some kind of voyeuristic/exhibitionist feelings, but as you get into the habit of disrobing and seeing others do the same over time you get more of a relaxed outlook toward the experience. Some of this in my case I think had to do with being brought up in an environment where nudity was not the norm & adjusting over time and some of it had to do with simply being young & growing older.
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 03/08/2005 : 1:25:34 PM
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Agreed. The thrill does fade as you become used to the situation of being publicly and/or socially nude. But I'm not ashamed to admit that I hope that I never lose the appreciation for the sight of the human form and it's beauty.
Randy 
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FireProf
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Posted - 03/08/2005 : 4:32:19 PM
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Ash,
Those that have posted have said it all!
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shoobie
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Posted - 03/08/2005 : 5:12:41 PM
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Ash -- good post.
I think its almost pathological that society thinks of looking at someone’s face and eyes, or arms and legs, as perfectly normal, but we refuse each other the non sexual pleasure of enjoying our naked forms. You are describing something that is IMO perfectly healthy and natural, but in lieu of our screwy culture, easy to confuse. As such, it has created some weird behavior out of non-nudist in relation to nudity, and even many of nudist I talk with are uncomfortable with a stare for being ogled or being the “dirty ogler.”
Now, I'm a M new to this social nudism thing myself, but I have had a ton of experience working with nude F models as an artist -- literally staring at one persons entire body for three hour sittings gives you some perspective, often the same model over and again.
Here are my 2 cents -- from both sides.
First the artist. I’ve worked with men as well, but your question seems to discuss the opposite sex – so I’ll stick with my own similar experience. But really, bottom line is – just as any nudist knows, parts are parts and it’s the artist’s job to really check them out and quantify them. Parts are what make us, us. Each of us finds different parts neat. Some parts on some people express themselves in wonderfully different ways. Each part has its own beauty, and then is further defined and redefined again by a model’s pose and lighting. Hair makes shadows, eyes and nose related to room light, for example. The slope of the back and ribs into the hip carries a certain reflection. The shape of one’s thigh into the buttocks is different in this pose from the last, and from Model A’s, B’s and C’s –each wonderful in their own right. The neckline into the back. The shoulder from the biceps and triceps into the lats and breasts. How one’s breasts fall in one pose vs. another. Fuller breast, small breasts. How the hip line expresses itself in relation to the pubic area, or how a shadow hides or does not hide what’s hidden between the legs. How she shaves or not.
OK, that’s lots of artsy-fartsy stuff, but my point is that its all that detail – those relationships that artists quantify on paper – that humans can’t articulate, but nonetheless are captivated by / find interesting in the human form, as the art is evidence in and of itself. But for some reason we are allowed to look at it on paper, but not at real life… I don’t get it… These are all beautiful things in relationship to one another –you see these as much as I do as a nudist. The relationships make us think. They catch our eye – and we as humans are wired to have our eyes caught. And of course, there is a reason we have more than one piece of nude art -- look at each new guy that comes by, satisfy your curiosity. Most of us really do want to look longer than society (or even other nudists) approves, but we avert our eyes in shame.
Now -- As a new nudist – over 10 years since my last nude model – I can say that I am respectful of this – if anyone has any curiosity about anything on my body, go ahead and look. If my body changes as I move and it catches your interest, please – go ahead and look – the body is an amazing machine. (Note – I didn’t say leer or make eyes at me or anything like that. Just appreciate what god gave us.)
I am happy and, yes, I do derive energy from the fact that I am providing such a, for the lack of a better term, contribution. I don’t consider myself to be much to look at, but I am unique and if someone finds interest – that’s only natural. That, IMO is part of nudism – appreciating others and allowing others to appreciate our form – our half of providing that enjoyment is NOT exhibitionism. (Now, if you are participating in some sort of purely sexual pleasure out of it, that’s a different story.)
But let’s be clear; The body is interesting and wonderful. It is the subject of thousands of year of art that people line up to see in museums. It is sensual – it is livi
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NudeAl
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Posted - 03/08/2005 : 9:58:58 PM
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Ash,
I agreee with what others here have posted. I see nothing wrong with anything you are doing or feeling. I myself don't still feel that charge though, I used to. I do notice that when it has been a while since my last nude social outing I tend to get more excited the closer I get to my nude destination. I mean excited as in looking forward to getting nude happy to be there in a nonsexual sort of way. Relax and enjoy yourself consider it part of the experience.
"The best dress for walking is nakedness." Colin Fletcher
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RunnerGirl
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Posted - 04/03/2005 : 12:32:14 PM
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Ash,
I agree with you. i too get excited getting nude. Maybe it is an age thing like everyone says (I am 18), or maybe it is because I am new and still getting used to it. But I think it fun to disrobe.
Morgan
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vealj
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Posted - 04/03/2005 : 2:59:52 PM
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Ash, RunnerGirl,
I agree with what everyone has posted above too. Initially it's exciting and that's normal because you have to remember you're breaking a lot of society's taboos by going nude in public or in the company of others.
The next stage seems to be pure enjoyment with the freedom and liberation of the body and a sensuous feeling of just being nude. You can have this feeling whether you are in your own bedroom alone or enjoying a romp on the beach or in the woods.
Eventually it's no longer the thrill of doing something "forbotten" or perhaps a little naughty in society's eyes but just the pure enjoyment of living free and comfortable. And there's a bonus if you share it with other like-minded folks at nude beaches or clubs, you begin to accept people as people and not as costumed actors playing their roles, as doctors, lawyers or VERY important people. Indeed they all become just plain folk.
Happily, I can assure you, the feelings of a slight thrill when you are nude can still be existent even after 34 years of living a nudist lifestyle.
Take care and ...
Keep it Bare !!!
- veal
http://www.vealj.com/naturist.html
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Ashley
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 10:06:14 AM
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Maybe this is just a coincidence, but as I type this I see an advertisement at the bottom of this page that currently is from "Gadget Universe" and they're selling digital camera binoculars with a $5 off coupon.
Is it a coincidence that this is on a nudist site? lol...I think not!!
Ash
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RunnerGirl
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 12:28:27 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Ashley
Maybe this is just a coincidence, but as I type this I see an advertisement at the bottom of this page that currently is from "Gadget Universe" and they're selling digital camera binoculars with a $5 off coupon.
Is it a coincidence that this is on a nudist site? lol...I think not!!
Ash
OMG, I got the same ad just popped up on mine! I guess it is not a coincidence, lol
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bklyn
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 5:58:08 PM
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As a 25 year old male that often goes to the nude beach alone, I have to admit that I share in ash & RunnerGirl's feeling that when I finally get to the beach there is an excitement that is more than just about disrobbing and being as God made me but carries into an excitement about being seen and seeing.
I get there and love the fact that people might be looking and love to be able to sneak a glance as well. However, with the m/f ratio so wacky, I have come to understand the issue more first hand.
Lighthouse beach draws a large number of men and thoes that are looking at me for a long time (or double back a few times for a look-see) make me uncomfortable. I am straight but don't have any issue with the all the men unless it seems like they are crusing and staring. Since I am alone I sometimes get hit on and become very angry that I can't be left alone.
I prefer to choose a spot where there is mixed company so that it seems less likely that I am waiting to be picked up.
Anyway, I feel that you can sneak looks all you like, but don't stare. I also feel that it is more acceptable to people-watch people that are being active then thoes that are laying out. If someone is walking down the beach... it is OK to look.
Am I out of line?
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Buster
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 6:06:55 PM
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Not out of line, i have the same thing 22/m usual alone nude beach goer, i get the looks from guys looking for guys, but havn't been hit on.. maybe i'm just not as cute as i thought :(
If people are walking by, i must admit any kind of motion attracts my attention, but no stareing involved. I guess it's just the whole golden rule situation. Be respectfull, and others will respect you.
Allthough i'm still looking for people to spend time with on the beach while i'm waiting for my girlfriend to move down this summer..
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