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philzer
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Posted - 03/28/2004 : 7:53:00 PM
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My wife and I were discussing this just yesterday, and while we like the idea of eating nude, cooking nude definitely seems to be out -- for obvious safety reasons! ('Course, I think my wife would look quite lovely wearing an apron and nothing else!)
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chic
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Posted - 03/29/2004 : 12:30:56 AM
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After seeing some of the foregoing comments, we just think it depends ! That is, the particular situation dictates the dress/undress code. When dinning late, with the kids out, we are more likely to be nude and therefore dine in our favorite costume: NUDE.
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FireProf
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 Posted - 03/29/2004 : 12:39:53 AM
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We eat nude most of the time. Cooking nude depends on what we are cooking. When cooking with hot oil, my wife usually wears a shirt.
I'm curious, besides the privacy issue with neighbors and such, why would nudists not eat nude?
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Kimberly
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 Posted - 03/29/2004 : 02:53:03 AM
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I always cook with an apron on, Murphy lives here!
Kim =^.
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philzer
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Posted - 03/29/2004 : 11:39:29 PM
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Does Murphy like to go nude too??
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Kimberly
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Posted - 03/30/2004 : 02:23:06 AM
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I don't know if he goes nude or not, but you can bet things will happen when he is around.
Kim =^.^=
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chic
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Posted - 03/30/2004 : 08:45:10 AM
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And Kim, that's the law. I couldn't resist.
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greg_ldssdc047
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Posted - 03/30/2004 : 11:23:58 AM
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"Hm. Wonder if there are any nudist computer games out there? Y'know, like Naked Alien Invasion or something.
Wait a minute. Naked aliens? Maybe that isn't such a big idea."
The game "The Sims" by EA/Maxis.
If you are willing to go through some trouble, you can find a "nude patch" on the Internet. Some nude patches available are very juvenile (male models sporting huge woodies, or women with huge breats), but there used to be a regular old "nudist patch" that had decent, anatomically correct models and skins. I don't know if this is still out there somewhere.
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vealj
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Posted - 03/30/2004 : 12:06:12 PM
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Since I'm always nude at home I'm always nude when we dine. Usually it's just me and my TV tray and my wife and hers.
When the church ladies show up we'd invite them to stay for dinner but by then they would be running, screaming into the streets! :)
Take care and ...
Keep it Bare !!!
- veal
http://www.vealj.com/naturist.html
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calmnude
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Posted - 03/30/2004 : 8:19:36 PM
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a man after my own heart, and i bet you told them you were going to barbecue too, vealj
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greg_ldssdc047
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Posted - 03/30/2004 : 8:48:52 PM
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To reply to the topic at hand:
My wife and I both spend the vast majority of our time naked at home. She will sometimes wear underwear if it's on the cool side in the house.
Our bathroom door never closes, except if we have guests.
We plan on raising our children in a C/O home, when we have them.
We'd love to raise them at a nudist campground, if it's possible.
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papabare
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Posted - 03/31/2004 : 01:03:58 AM
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That brings me to a question I forgot to ask but has probably been discussed before (Considering Greg's reply).
What is the door policy in your nudist homes?
We are pretty much an open door policy. Well maybe thats not the right wording. I keep the bathroom door open to my bathroom or the visitor bathroom, unless there are visitors or a good reason why I need to close it. I grew up with my mother and grandmother always leaving the door open until I hit my teens, then they would try and remember to close it.
My son leaves the door open but he is still at the age that I have to make sure he wiped well before he sits somewhere 
My daughter does about a 50/50.
Like I have said in other posts, I don't make my kids do anything one way or the other, if they want to wear clothes or not it is fine with me, same with house doors, etc (Except Fridge Doors, I am a father there ). I know teens will have reasons to lock their bedroom doors so that is fine, this is where I argue with my ex's parents. They never trusted their children and my ex was never allowed to lock her door while she lived there, and they don't trust their grandkids either. I believe you have to trust your kids to do the right thing if you have raised them to do the right thing.
Ok this has gone to a long ramble like I am good for at this time of night :)
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greg_ldssdc047
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Posted - 03/31/2004 : 01:59:48 AM
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Personally, I don't like the idea of locks on doors at all.
Of course, I'm speaking as a married man who is only planning on having kids, not as one who has already raised some.
However, my philosophy about it is this. A closed door should be as good as a locked door. The way I see it, if I raise my kids right, to respect the privacy of those who wish it (and a closed door is an obvious sign that one wishes privacy), then there will be no need for a locked door.
Of course, my example and that of their mother will have to be perfect for such a lesson in respect to be effective.
In the unlikely event that one family member walks in on another family member at an embarrassing moment (and of course, being naked isn't embarrassing), then that will have to be resolved appropriately.
But I ask myself, what could possibly be cause for embarrassment? Any of the following situations would demand a renewed lesson in respect, but may also require additional actions:
Embarrassing situation #1:
Bathroom... someone is using the toilet. Nothing more needed than a quick apology and backing out. No harm done (except maybe to nasal passages!)
Embarrassing situation #2:
Bedroom... Sexual activity is going on. If it's their mom and dad, or another adult member of the family (with an adult), depending on the age of the intruding party, the worst that could happen is that we may have to accelerate that particular child's lessons in the birds and bees (which will be something that our children will be learning very quickly anyway, having a shallower learning curve). If it's a minor child having sex who's intruded upon, then that will have to be dealt with as circumstances demand (what exactly was occurring and with whom).
Embarrassing situation #3:
If it's someone having sex "solo". Again, it may require accelerated lessons on the birds and bees, depending on who the intruding party was. Otherwise, no harm done. It's normal, natural, and even healthy. (Some may disagree with this, but please let's not get side-tracked onto that particular argument here).
Embarrassing situation #4:
Someone is doing something illegal. Drug abuse abuse and child abuse particularly come into mind. If either of these things are occurring, it will have to be dealt with strictly, as the severity requires (ranging from illicit tobacco or alcohol use by a minor on the "light" end to sexual abuse of a young child by an adult on the "heavy side"). Obviously, I would never EXPECT anything extraordinarily serious to happen in my household, but I do not delude myself into thinking that it can not happen.
In any case, violations of desired privacy would be breaking of "house rules" and appropriate disciplinary action would be taken for the offending party.
There are other reasons to have a closed door, that won't cause embarrassment if someone unexpectedly walked in. Private conversations, listening to music, or a desire to shut out distractions while studying or reading all come to mind.
Anyway, these are just my thoughts. I don't see any compelling need for kids to have locks on their doors. If they feel they need one, that, to me, is an indication that I or my wife will need to have a talk about the reason why they feel they need it, and to address that fear or insecurity at its root. Ultimately, a lock is merely a bandaid over a more serious problem.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 03/31/2004 : 02:22:02 AM
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You have some thoughts there Greg, but evidently you haven't had kids yet. Closed doors or an invitation to be opened. The kids will have to be of a certain age before they understand the reason for the closed doors. Kids, and adults should be trained to knock first before entering a room with a closed door. If you want your privacy respected, then you need to be sure and respect your kids privacy. Your kids do need their privacy, even if you raise them as nudists. The secret is communication, and talking things out with them. If you suspect illegal activities discuss it with them, don't accuse, and don't go searching their room. If your kids feel you do not trust them, then you will have the problems. Teenagers especially need space where they can be alone, and not interrupted or walked in on. Kids do not need locked doors, which could actually be dangerous, especially during a fire.
Kim =^.^=
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greg_ldssdc047
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Posted - 03/31/2004 : 02:50:47 AM
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KIMBERLY: You have some thoughts there Greg, but evidently you haven't had kids yet. Closed doors or an invitation to be opened. The kids will have to be of a certain age before they understand the reason for the closed doors.
GREG: I know this. 3 year olds will have a hard time understanding. This is the age when they need to learn. By the time their 6, I think most would have it down, if you're consistent.
KIMBERLY: Kids, and adults should be trained to knock first before entering a room with a closed door. If you want your privacy respected, then you need to be sure and respect your kids privacy.
GREG: As I said in my post, I recognize that we'd have to set a perfect example, if we want them to learn the lesson, too.
KIMBERLY: Your kids do need their privacy, even if you raise them as nudists. The secret is communication, and talking things out with them.
GREG: Exactly my thoughts. I plan on holding myself to a strict code of "knock and wait for permission".
KIMBERLY: If you suspect illegal activities discuss it with them, don't accuse, and don't go searching their room. If your kids feel you do not trust them, then you will have the problems.
GREG: It's a delicate balance. If they clam up and are not forthcoming about what's going on, and illegal activity IS suspected, weighing their safety against their privacy is a tough issue. I've always believed that success in this matter involves a convergence of several different patterns that have been established over time with them:
1. The pattern of open communication. If they've shared everything with you from the time they were young, and you, in turn have been frank and open with them, it goes a long way. Alone, however, this isn't enough. They may still fear what kind of discipline they may get if they are "found out". Therefore...
2. A pattern of logical, measured discipline. If you have a habit of going berserk on a kid when they tell you something you don't want to hear or you find out something they did wrong, their fears may be legitimate about how you'll react. "Berserk" means raising your voice, or being emotionally and/or physically abusive. If, on the other hand, you have developed a habit of 'responding' (as opposed to 'reacting') with strictness that is nevertheless fair, and in a calm, reasoned manner, and with a great deal of apparent love for them, I think it'll go a long way toward creating a non-hostile environment where a confession is much more likely to be forthcoming.
KIMBERLY: Teenagers especially need space where they can be alone, and not interrupted or walked in on.
GREG: Yes, I understand. It's an individuality thing. They'll customize their room to reflect their own tastes and personality (as they try to discover what their personal tastes and personality really are!). Their space is a reflection of themselves, and is a part of themselves. To walk in on that uninvited is a violation of trust.
KIMBERLY: Kids do not need locked doors, which could actually be dangerous, especially during a fire.
GREG: Yes, I see no need for them. I don't plan to have them in my home.
I have another thought I'd like to add to this thread, but I'll do it in a new post.
Greg
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