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Kimberly
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 Posted - 04/03/2004 : 03:12:12 AM
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I agree with you Greg. we do have a great bunch of people here. I don't think kids raised as nudists are as promiscuous as non nudists. When exposed to nudity at a young age, it is just normal, like FireProfs grand daughters. There is not that curiosity to see what the other sex looks like. I agree with the comments made by David. Kids should learn the right way, and not get their first exposure to nudity and sex on the internet.
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philzer
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Posted - 04/04/2004 : 10:24:04 PM
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Another reason we want to raise our kids in a nudist environment, Kim. There are plenty of "forbidden fruits" out there without adding sex to the list.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 04/05/2004 : 03:22:01 AM
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Philzer kids seem to learn at a younger and younger age now, and with access to the internet, it makes it that much more scary. So far, (knocking on wood), everything has worked out well bringing them up as nudists.
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irishred
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Posted - 04/05/2004 : 6:25:48 PM
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Kim, sounds like you are doing a fantastic job raising your family!
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philzer
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Posted - 04/05/2004 : 9:27:10 PM
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Kim, if it's okay to ask, have any of your kids reached their teens yet? I've known some kids who were raised in a nudist household, yet seemed to develop plenty of hangups about their bodies anyway when they became teenagers, to the puzzlement of their parents. I'm wondering about this because our children are still very small and haven't learned modesty yet. Does anyone else in the forum have any comments about raising nudist teenagers?
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Kimberly
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Posted - 04/06/2004 : 05:24:34 AM
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Philzer I have a son 17, a daughter 15, and a son that will be 13 next month. They all three have gone through periods around puberty where they more or less dropped out of nudism. My oldest two have gotten back into nudism, my youngest is still a little shy in public.
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The Bead Man
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Posted - 04/06/2004 : 12:27:17 PM
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Shyness during puberty is to be expected considering, as well as hormonal and physical changes, the person is transitioning from a child to an adult.
In a nudist environment, at least the shyness isn't being reinforced by external expressions of disapproval of their body.
Cheers!
David
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The Bead Artist formerly known as Revilo42
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philzer
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Posted - 04/06/2004 : 5:41:25 PM
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What's interesting to me about this is that I've seen pretty few teenagers at nude resorts or beaches compared to adults and pre-teen children -- but the teenagers that I did see seemed very much at ease with their bodies. I'm sure that like anything else, how teenagers feel about their bodies whether raised in nudism or not is very much an individual thing. So far with our 4-year-old, he's allowed to be nude in the house as much as he wants, which is often! Neither my wife nor I grew up as nudists, but we want to give our kids the benefit of that experience as much as we can.
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greg_ldssdc047
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Posted - 04/06/2004 : 10:23:27 PM
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It isn't really rocket science why pubescent teens have a problem with being naked in front of others.
How many 10 year old girls do you know if in our culture who are eager to get a "training-bra"?
How many 12 year old boys are closely looking at their face in the mirror, wondering when they'll have enough facial hair to shave?
I think most teens feel that their bodies are either more adult than they'd like or, more commonly, less adult than they'd prefer.
They want to grow up, and so do all their peers. At the same time, they're worried about how their adult bodies are going to turn out. Girls are worried about how big their breasts will get. Boys are worried about their penis size.
This worry also translates into crude -- and sometimes cruel -- humor. Boys will put down other boys for not "sprouting" as quickly as they are. Girls will tease other girls who have bigger breasts, because the guys are all staring that the big chested girls, and they want to "punish" the source of their envy. Or girls will tease other girls who have no breasts yet at all. You remember the mean jokes... like which girls are a "carpenter's dream"... (flat as a board).
All this nervousness and subsequent teasing does not lend itself well to "flaunting" one's body. It says a lot about a teen's self-confidence if they are able to shrug off the teasing and be naked in spite of it all.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 04/07/2004 : 02:43:25 AM
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Greg you are right about that. I know my daughter felt awkward going through puberty because I did too. Not only does your body go through changes but your mind does too. The peer presure has a lot to do with it too. I think the kids that are raised as nudists, feel more comfirtable around other nude kids. It is the kids in the neighbourhood and at school that usually cause all the cruel jokes.
KIm =^.^=
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irishred
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Posted - 04/07/2004 : 7:05:47 PM
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Kim, it's a tribute to you and your husband that even though your kids went through the awkwardness of puberty, as all kids do, they now feel comfortable with the nude life style.
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calmnude
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Posted - 04/07/2004 : 7:47:33 PM
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if, as a teenager, you do not fit neatly into a certain group, those who determine the groups are very mean, and not very kind. most of them get their comeuppance in the end so there is small consolation there.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 04/08/2004 : 02:47:21 AM
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I wouldn't want to be a teenager now days for anything Calmnude.It seems like the peer presure is worse than ever.
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The Bead Man
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Posted - 04/08/2004 : 12:54:34 PM
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I heard an interesting program recently about a sucessfull school in a disadvantaged district, that instead of having huge year groupings (pupils of the same age) but only for a few years at each school, kept children from age 8 or 9 until graduation. This meant that continuity was improved, but also to calmnude's point, there was less tendency to form into exclusive groups based on race, ethnicity, sports prowess or fashion - as groups would be too small to remain stable. Grouping by age or gender (especially at younger ages) still happens, but it seems more healthy to bond with all your classmates than with, say, just white Goths.
Cheers!
David
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The Bead Artist formerly known as Revilo42
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Kimberly
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Posted - 04/09/2004 : 02:40:47 AM
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We visited a little school house that is now a museum. In the late 1800s all ages were in one class room. The kids excelled as the younger kids learned from the older kids. It was a small country school mind you, but it is amazing how much the kids were able to learn in a small group with hardly any resources.
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