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JustJim
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Posted - 05/18/2006 : 08:40:32 AM
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I think if everyone were honest about the nudist experience there would be an admission of a mix of voyeuristic and exhibitionistic tendencies that probably was the real initial motivation for us having given it a try. I'm not talking about an unhealthy urge such as you find with people who expose themselves illegally or "peek" illegally..I'm just saying that there is an inherent thrill or exhillerating feeling to shedding all your clothes and mixing casually with a number of people who have done the same. That's a very natural reaction and doesn't feed into the uncontrollable urge to "have sex" nor does it even produce erections in the vast majority of cases. I've never had an erection at the nudist facility I attend because the atmosphere doesn't give me that feeling. Everyone is natural, comfortable, relaxed, and having fun. People are more friendly, more open, less pretentious, and far more "normal" than at country clubs, parties, or many other social events. I enjoy seeing attractive women nude and I don't mind being seen, but I don't stare, I don't ogle, and I look the women in the eye when I have discussions with them out of common courtesy and respect. I don't find it difficult whatsoever to see or recognize the difference between nudism and sex. Social nudity isn't the correct or proper environment for sex and people who have common sense and normal behavioral skill sets shouldn't be confused or struggling with the difference.
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 05/18/2006 : 3:50:27 PM
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I can't say I agree with you there, I felt little apprehension on my first social nude experience, but soon realised theres nothing to get excited about. When I see a naked woman, I see a person, just the same as if I'd met her if she were dressed. If I'm attracted to a woman when she's naked, I would experience the same feeling if she were fully clothed.
Let me tell you a story, when I attended a naturist swim at a new venue, I was shown round by one of the organisers, I was fully clothed and I've never felt so out of place with all those naked people looking at me, I couldn't wait to get back to the locker room and get undressed so that I was normal and able to blend into the crowd.
I feel better for being naked, no sexual thrill, just the thrill of feeling the sun and air on my body.
Well thats my perspective anyway.
Pete Knight
Even a prude has to be nude ........sometime!!
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scooterbob
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Posted - 05/19/2006 : 07:59:27 AM
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i have been around this way of life for many years, and the name by which they call it has changed many times so i just call it comfortable. the hell with tagging it
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CathyK
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Posted - 05/21/2006 : 12:25:32 PM
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I don't agree with Justjim at all. Most of the people I have spoken with, and who I believe are being honest with me, tried it mostly for health, body image, the social aspect, but not for voyeuristic and exhibitionistic tendencies at all.
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JustJim
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Posted - 05/23/2006 : 4:20:03 PM
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Nudists are quick to disavow any current or prior prurient interests whenever I bring up the fact that I belive MANY of the people who "INITIALLY" decide to go to a nude beach or nudist resort did so because they think it'll be a "kick" to do so....that it will be a tantalyzing experience. What I'm trying to get across is that even though I belive that to be the case as a "secret reason" for giving it a try the first time, (Obviously they can't admit it and have been schooled by nudist dogma to pretend that thought never crossed their mind), I do also state with a sincere feeling, that once you DO go, you immediately discover the REAL enjoyment of the experience which truly is the freedom from clothing, the feeling of total relaxation, and the warm and accepting atmosphere of the other nudists. I guess what I'm saying is that even if your initial thoughts about WHY you really wanted to try it aren't so "pure"...you will quickly become educated and converted to understanding the REAL enjoyment of social nudity.
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 03:19:11 AM
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No, I still disagree, like many naturists I discovered my enjoyment of nudity by being a home nudist for many years, it was only after seperation and divorce from a prude that I ventured into social nudity, and it wasn't for a cheap thrill either. Naturism to me, is about what I feel, not what I see or how I'm seen.
Pete Knight
P.S. I appaude your honesty is saying that you first went to a nude venue to see naked people, but your reason isn't the same for everyone.
Even a prude has to be nude ........sometime!!
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JustJim
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 08:06:39 AM
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I"m not saying my reason is the same for everyone. The United States is pretty much "split" 49% to 51% on almost every issue imaginable..and I assume this would get a similar treatment. However, I am simply saying that for those who were motivated to try it their first time for the same reason I was will seldom or never admit it. As I stated in both of my previous posts on this subject, I very quickly (within less than a half hour of being there) determined that my original motivation was misplaced and there was far more to enjoy...which is why I keep going back. I am where you and probably nearly all nudists are now... enjoying the feel of it..the completely relaxed atmosphere, and the comaraderie of the very nice people I meet there week after week.
JustJim
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 10:40:24 AM
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Well JustJim, I'm pleased that you've been converted, I just wish that more of the voyeurs that hide in the sand dunes could see the light as you have done, and yes I accept that many naturists have entered the lifestyle through wanting to see naked bodies.
On another thread I pointed out that rather oddly I find the thought of women without undergarments rather sexually exciting, yet being surrounded by naked women doesn't, whats all that about then?
Pete Knight
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GeeWilly
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Posted - 05/24/2006 : 2:41:20 PM
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JJim, perhaps curiosity is a more accurate description of why I first ventured into naturism. Along with a basic anxiety -am I really going to do this?- that likely accompanies any first-timer. But a need to understand why folks would go nude among people whom they don't know seemed almost a compulsion.
I suppose tendencies toward exhibitionism probably require something one thinks is worthy of exhibiting. Was not a issue here; this plumbing seems no different than any other.
The freedom of nudism should be the drawing card. It is such a rush to shed the barriers one creates. Tell those who are on the edge to enjoy the freedom!
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Ranger191
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Posted - 05/27/2006 : 10:30:55 AM
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GeeWilly, I like the way you said that.
My first time was definitely more about curiosity than about exhibitionism.
What's it going to be like? What will I do? What will they do? What if I see someone I know? Dear god don't let anyone point and laugh! :)
It was great, I relaxed as did 'they', I didn't and no one pointed and laughed. At least at the same time! :) Everyone was friendly, talkative and open. It was one the days I'll always remember with great fondness.
Nobility is not a birthright, it is defined by one's actions.
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Stilllearning
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Posted - 08/18/2006 : 3:10:36 PM
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Been a while since I've been here and thanks for the comments. Let me condense a lot of debate to couple of simple thoughts. My interest in nudity is because naked bodies equal naked minds, conversations and imaginations. However, naturism, naturalism or whatever you wish to call it, means the thoughts should be as naked as the body. If those conversations turn into hilarious memories of losing your virginity or serious conversations about how human sexuality really works and interpersonal relationships between the sexes fail or succeed and the company is mixed, then I gather that is strictly off limits. Those are the conversations that I remember. This isn't the place for me.
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jim19452
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Posted - 08/18/2006 : 4:44:29 PM
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I would agree that voyeurism and exhibitionism were factors for my first visit. So were curiosities about where you undressed (this intrigued me most on my drive to the resort), resort activities, would there be children, ages of attendees and comportment.
I had enjoyed indoor and outdoor nudity alone for some time and couldn't think of a reason why I should not try social nudity. An oddity is that I had and have little interest in indoor social nudity, for example, gathering in someone's home.
Best Wishes, Jim
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imnude2
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Posted - 08/19/2006 : 8:22:19 PM
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Hello Stilllearning & other members,
I agree with Stilllearning. Although everyone here seems to have tremendous experience on this topic and I respect you all for your comments. I am afraid you will disagree with me especially because I have not yet experienced the nudist lifestyle (only at home.) Although, I have this naive idea that being nude will also give me that freedom of expression. I want the freedom to express my mind, "body" and soul (maybe not so openly here but certainly among a group of "nudists" friends and strangers at a nudist community, beach or get together) and not be worried that I moved the wrong way as to come across as "sexual" or offensive (to who's eyes?)
I am enjoying this journey of learning about what real nudists have to say from their experience. Thank you all.
Still learning too!!
Best to you all,
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openess
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Posted - 08/24/2006 : 5:13:53 PM
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In addition to the wonderful and often sensual feeling of being as you were born, there is a tangible emotional and spiritual benefit that comes from freely choosing to be unhidden, unafraid, and open to the world around you. Even alone, this can be so refreshing and restorative. Being naked with others in the same frame of mind is an expression of trust, acceptance and the oneness and beauty we all share. When we’re together like that, we’re not walking (or sitting) fashion statements, designer labels or delegates from different layers of society. We’re all just vulnerable and trusting human beings. I think the clear spirited practice of nudism is sublimely beneficial and healthy for us as individuals, and for the way we relate to each other. If you pay very close attention, you can absolutely feel it. It’s what I like most about this way of being.
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NudeInPa
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Posted - 08/30/2006 : 8:03:00 PM
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As much as I'd like to say that I started into social nudidy for the health, oneness with nature, or body image reasons, I have to be honest that it was more for exhibitionism and voyeuristic reasons. What I quickly discovered was that the anticipayed sexual aspects of it never occurred. While I can't say I've never gotten an erection while in a resort, I can say that it has only occurred when looking at my wife in this environment. While I have visited places with many beautiful women, I find myself only affected by the appearance of my wife being nude in front of others. Call me wierd, but this has been my experience. So, what does that say of me?
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