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jcmt4
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 Posted - 05/24/2007 : 12:31:56 AM
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hello all, i have been practising nudism for over twenty years; & i was once asked if i am a naturist or nudist.is it the same thing;or is there a difference?
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Cheri
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 10:22:00 AM
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IMHO, they can be used interchangeably.
Cheri
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spiceant
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 10:35:59 AM
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Some people see Nudism as part of what Naturism is. Naturism means living naturally to some (in a technophobic sense).
In my experience the "nudist" word has a negative undertone where naturist doesn't.
The two are the same in dictionarys.
Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
Mat 19:26
Popularity contests are not truth contests—look how many scoundrel preachers were aproved by your ancestors! Your task is to be true, not popular. Lu 6:26
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ßeachcomber
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 3:39:10 PM
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Nudist - Naturist - Unclothed - Skyclad - Skinnydipper ........
I can remember 'The Old days' when life was simple. You dressed for work but cast aside your clothes and simply enjoyed the feeling of the wind and sun against your body in your free time.
Now we have to justify ourselves with a lable ?
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thornapplebison
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 10:16:56 PM
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What about clothes-free? That's my favorite.
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StuffedTiger
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 07:46:57 AM
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Dr. Cyc Cinder in his book "The Nudist Idea" tells us about a split in the French naked culture whereby one group emphasized the health aspects and the other group smoke and drank but did it nude. I would have thought that split to be the origin of the split between naturism and nudism, but it was not.
It seems that today some naturists/nudists emphasize the health aspects and other nudist/naturists do not, and all seem to co-exist nicely within the same clubs and call themselves one or the other or both arbitrarily as they see fit. Oh well. :-)
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FireProf
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 10:55:23 AM
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We, as do many of our nudist/naturist friends, feel both words are interchangable. They essentially mean the same thing and nowadays either one are used, by those of us in the lifestyle, to describe who we are and what we do.
I would disagree that the word nudist has a negative undertone. Nude is nude and someone that prefers to be without clothing is nude so they must be a nudist! I don't see where the negative undertone is.
My wife and I are "Nudists" to our nudist/naturist friends and "Naturists" to those who don't know our understand the lifestyle. This was how we usually described our clothes free lifestyle to others but nowadays with most people knowing that we live nude at home and vacation at nude places we mostly refer to ourselfs as Nudists. We still use the word "naturists" to direct others to the internet sites on the topic.
I understand that both words had their separate meanings many years ago. This has changed because "nudists" began loving to be nude in nature in such places as the ocean, the woods, lakes, rivers...etc. Naturists began spending more and more time nude at home and not just out in nature communing with the natural environment. So I think what happened was the two words and worlds merged and we now have both words essentially meaning the same things.
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EuroTim
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 11:18:40 AM
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I'm just naked. That's all!
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old hippie
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Posted - 06/01/2007 : 01:25:51 AM
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. From my casual observation over recent years, I would suggest that those who refer to themselves as "nudists" will generally tend to be those who are more interested in the social and sporting aspects of nude activities. Those who refer to themselves as "naturists" tend to be more involved in the more solitary endeavors, such as hiking or swimming - or sitting on the beach reading.
. I can't cite studies or quote statistics to support that trend, but it is consistent with my recall.
Maybe some enterprising sociologist would like to study the correlation of titles for beach-goers or resort-goers to see if they can find a terminology trend. I have seen indications of such distinctions among some of the discussions here. Egad, with enough verbiage and statistical tables, you could work this into a Masters' dissertation !
Now can we go swimming at the "Naturist Natatorium" ?
da hippie
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E-N-U-Q
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Posted - 06/01/2007 : 02:03:59 AM
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By heart I´m a nudist a will always be. I love being nude indoor as well as outdoor, when I´m relaxing and being practical. For me, it has nothing to do with just being "natural in the nature"
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Nils "ENUQ"
Smooth nudist
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windowphobe
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Posted - 06/02/2007 : 6:46:56 PM
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I've never really embraced either term, regardless of connotations: I'm just a guy who keeps his wardrobe at a distance.
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go n nude
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Posted - 06/03/2007 : 01:19:21 AM
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This question never ends, a poll might be a really good idea. What do we call ourselfs or this movement? Nudism, Naturism, Nudist or Naturist ? Some may or may not want to call themselfs NUDISTS or are proud to be one.
Enjoying this Life naturally is the reason and whatever we call ourselfs, its our choice and its free.Too!
go n nude
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Tuffers
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Posted - 06/03/2007 : 05:56:43 AM
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I have found that in Europe we describe ourselves as naturists whereas in USA the word nudist seems to be used more. Whatever we want to call ourselves, just enjoy the pleasures of being free from the constraints of clothes whenever possible.
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old hippie
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Posted - 06/04/2007 : 12:54:50 PM
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Originally posted by FireProf
I would disagree that the word nudist has a negative undertone. Nude is nude and someone that prefers to be without clothing is nude so they must be a nudist! I don't see where the negative undertone is.
Prof, your logic is faultless. Alas, logic has little impact on the evolution of language. The term 'nudist' hangs on to a bit of negative connotation the same as 'biker' does. I see plenty of motorcyle rider with grey hair and three-piece suits, but "biker bar" is still used to describe somewhere to stay out of - unless you fit in with that crowd. The same attitude applies to "nudist camp" - with the same caveat. It ain't sensible, but since when are people sensible?
Things are changing, but with the usual glacial speed of social development. Check back in three or four generations to see a difference.
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go n nude
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Posted - 06/04/2007 : 5:19:55 PM
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The Nudist has been with this movement for more than 75 years in North America. Its what they call us, or tell some others about us, self explanatory yes. Ask anyone, they know what a nudist is . I find Naturist/Naturalist confuses one to think we Bird watch or help save the Spotted Owl ect. These are free Countries, we all have an opinion and I'm glad we can share it on this forum.
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Cheri
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Posted - 06/05/2007 : 10:18:44 AM
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Originally posted by jcmt4
it's interesting that the word 'naturalist' has crept into the discussion:often being misinterpreted as 'naturist'.could it be that:in the old days,nudists were regarded as inadequate eccentrics:& naturists are now adequate?
My guess is that it's just an error. A naturalist was never considered a nudist or naturist. A naturalist is one who studies plants and animals.
Cheri
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