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warksman_uk
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 Posted - 01/04/2008 : 6:15:35 PM
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how is it when ever I say to friends I'm a naturist, i get scowels and shouts of you must be mad, and you wouldn't get me doing that in a million years. im fairly new to nudism, 6yrs only, and i cant understand why naturism is such a taboo after all when God made the world, adam and eve werent clothed up to the eyeballs were they? not on your life, the were naked and the naked body is the most beautiful and complex piece of art ever. so im now saying to friends if you cant stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen or dont knock it till you try it
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Cheri
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Posted - 01/04/2008 : 11:53:52 PM
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Some people are afraid of change or something different. Also, most of the population can't separate simple nudity from sex. That's one of the reasons I generally tell people I'm a skinnydipper rather than a nudist. It has the innocent connotation that isn't there with nudism for most. I don't force my lifestyle on anyone, I try to educate.
Cheri
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 01/05/2008 : 03:36:30 AM
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Some people are afraid of change or something different. Also, most of the population can't separate simple nudity from sex. That's one of the reasons I generally tell people I'm a skinnydipper rather than a nudist. It has the innocent connotation that isn't there with nudism for most. I don't force my lifestyle on anyone, I try to educate.
Cheri
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There has been recent discussion on the BN forum about re-branding naturism, over here the press always make jokes about nudist colonies with references to the 'Carry On' films which makes naturism/nudism a laughing stock thereby putting nudists off admitting they are and potential nudists from taking that step into nudism.
Our commercial manager Andrew Welch has picked up on this and may urge the swim organisers to move from calling them 'Naturist Swims' to 'Skinny Dipping Session' in an effort to get new people to come along, its all about image really, almost everyone has been skinny dipping in there time but few would consider themselves nudists.
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Originally posted by Andrew Welch on the BN forum
Thanks to everyone for a really interesting discussion. I particularly like the concept of "re-branding" naturist swims as "skinny-dipping sessions". As you will expect, I speak to many textiles in my role as Commercial Manager - many of them cynical media people - and always ask before I answer their questions if they have any experience of naturism. The answer is usually "no", but then I ask if they have skinny-dipped (answer "yes, hasn't everyone? It was lovely"), and/or been topless on a beach (answer "yes, why would I not in this day and age?") and/or sat naked watching TV on a balmy summer evening (answer "of course, why would I want to wear clothes on such an occasion after a hot and sticky day in the office?"). Many then realise that we're talking about something very simple that they've already done, not some strange closed society. Do these people have experience of "naturism"? Perhaps not in the way we generally describe it, but my point is that perhaps there are many more recruits to be had (I mean to naturism, though one hopes BN membership would follow!) from people who are half way there - happy being naked, unashamed of their bodies, aware of how nice the sun, the breeze, water feels on the skin etc.
I've held the view for a while (and it's partly what's behind my idea of changing the magazine name) that asking people to "admit/commit/sign up/convert" etc. to being "a naturist" is putting off a whole load of people who just want to shed their clothes from time to time without the need to label that action. I like to have a glass of wine, but don't call myself a "wine-ist", if I go to a football match, I'm not a "football-ist". (I know that sounds ridiculous, but hope you see what I am getting at!) As has been said here, being naked is natural and a state that everyone can be in (and is on a daily basis) - so are we excluding thousands of people by giving the impression that they need to make a conscious decision to immerse themselves in a new world?
Andrew is always looking for ways to get naturism into the newspapers in a positive light, he does a really great job and is instrumental in moving naturism into the 21st century over here.
Out of interest, how many BN members are on the message board? There is also an overseas membership available now, it costs £10 or approximately $20 for w
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melissastarr
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Posted - 01/05/2008 : 07:14:49 AM
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I don't cover up what I am at all- I'm a nudist, through and through. I'm also kind of nutty, through and through. So what? Normal is just a setting on a dryer. When I tell people I'm a nudist they generally want to talk about it and I tell them what it's REALLY about. I think they're more receptive to a female saying they're a nudist than a male saying they're a nudist, but that's just my opinion. So I give it to them straight. Sure, I'm a skinnydipper (or a chunkydunker, as it's been for the past few years), but I'm also some beyond that. I'm ok with that and I'm ok with you either being ok with it or not being ok with it. At most, people give a little giggle and carry on their merry way, wondering how the most conservative person they know likes to 'prance about without their clothes on.'
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newtoallofthis
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Posted - 01/05/2008 : 07:44:26 AM
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We have the same response with our friends. We tell them, dont knock it until you try it!
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Tuffers
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Posted - 01/05/2008 : 07:52:49 AM
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Since belonging to this site I have used the word Nudist rather than Naturist more and more to describe the lifestyle that my wife and I enjoy so much. When we joined the Naturist Foundation 30 years ago the word nudist was frowned upon, and still to this day Naturist is preferred. As far as I am concerned I like to be nude as much as possible so I am a nudist. I am open with friends of our interest and the more it is kept under wraps, the longer it will take to bring nudism out into the open as an acceptable way of life.
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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 01/05/2008 : 1:50:54 PM
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"Chunkydunker"? I love it.
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Cheri
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Posted - 01/05/2008 : 3:43:48 PM
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"Chunkydunker"? I love it.
Doc, There was a joke going around a bit ago that said we no longer skinnydip but chunkydunk.
:) Cheri
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go n nude
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Posted - 01/05/2008 : 8:13:19 PM
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Some may think we,re crazy and some only wish they could go nude. Adam &Eve and everybody else came into this world naked, shame, guilt, sexism and too many to list. Making public nudity so taboo, so true the human body is beautiful, in this unperfect world we dream of the day when they can all accept it, and share our joy and live life Naturally, the way it was created to be.
go n nude
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 01/06/2008 : 05:57:43 AM
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I believe a lot more people would participate in a nudist lifestyle were it not for fear of ridicule, the attitude of the media and some outspoken minorities leaves people socially conditioned to think that nudity is wrong, the religious eccentrics who believe that nakedness is a sin, and the porn industry that reinforces the belief that nudity = sex are the biggest problem.
Not a big problem to crack over here in Europe but you have major battle to face in the US.
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bornnude
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Posted - 01/06/2008 : 07:48:20 AM
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"Chunkydunker"? I love it.
Yep, that's me... I should (could?, will?) loose some weight... Is there anything between a chunkydunker and skinnydipper?
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ART_NAKED
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Posted - 01/06/2008 : 08:27:38 AM
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Greetings,
I am kind of new to posting here. I feel that I may have some good healthy insight to share. Please feel free to click my forum name and see some of my other posts.
I feel that a lot of people are afraid to show their true feelings in fear of being ridiculed. In turn have to cover up all the time. They are not open to being judged for what they are. They really feel that what someone says makes a difference in how they feel about themselves. Having a shield to wear in the form of many things including clothes helps them feel comfort.
Most people have not been introduced to a life style that is portrayed here in this forum. They really have no idea, so they rely on past experiences that have nothing to do with the life style. I feel most people would be very acceptant to this idealism of nude and happy if the really want to be happy.
There are a lot of nudists out there that could not tell you why they really enjoy being nude with others or alone if it required an answer. Maybe it does not need an answer. There is no possible way to have an answer for everything. So why do we feel we need an answer for this?
Unless we are promoting an idealism that we feel beneficial to ourselves and loved ones. Then an answer would be required.
I do feel a little crazy myself.
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palmer
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Posted - 01/06/2008 : 12:22:58 PM
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People think we're crazy because in addition to us being nudists, a lot of us also have radical views on things. Positive views that make sense but are not widely accepted or implemented because they actually help people instead of generating revenue.
Also, I always say, you want to get people into nudism? Just talk to them about it. Some may think say it's crazy, but secretely want to join you, or some may want to get into it, but not know where to go.
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smoothNtanned
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Posted - 01/06/2008 : 3:19:28 PM
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I like being naked, nude, 'clothesless', bare or whatever. Almost entirely private/personal, rarely social. It is a preferential lifestyle, when able. Been this way for many years.
During the last couple of years, a few friends, relatives and neighbors have become more aware of this. Our home and yard on an acreage are rather secluded. By example, I phone neighbors before visiting, hoping for reciprocation. Having been queried, I say with our pool and hot tub, skinnydipping is practiced. Understood, and no questions. Simple.
A few know that I live nude, including doing yard work. Never been asked why, at least not directly. But my response would be, among several possibilities, "I just like it; relaxing; often don't bother getting dressed; at one with nature;" etc. Non-defensive; quietly positive. Matter-of-fact. A couple of friends have spontaneously admitted to practicing personal nudity in various ways, and some past social nudity.
This is a chosen lifestyle. I don't say things like: do you do it?; ever tried it?; you should try it; nor offering up unsolicited explanations. I am not out to proselytize, recruit nor convince. An analogy might be religion/spiritual belief system - believing quietly unto oneself vs trying to explain to others, even convince or convert.
Now for those who are true social nudists, is it much different? I wouldn't really know, for what little has been done is not known to others.
'NUDE when able, covered when necessary'
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melissastarr
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Posted - 01/06/2008 : 7:04:24 PM
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That's one of the reasons I generally tell people I'm a skinnydipper rather than a nudist.
I tried this technique on my sister, who forgot that I'm a nudist (apparently.) We were talking about me coming up for an extra weekend in a few weeks to take the kids to an indoor water park. I mentioned that I would be fine with this as there is a group of people that I wanted to go skinnydipping with while I was up there anyway. Cheri, it didn't work- she still flew off the handle with loads of laughter. I think she's probably STILL cracking up. She made sure I knew that SHE wasn't going with me (I reminded her that nowhere in the statement was there an invite anyway- not until I knew a few people in the group) and then she was humorously outraged to find out that there are nudists in NY same as there are in PA.... and some in her own backyard (I've met some people who live only a few minutes from her and the swims I was talking about are less than 20 minutes from her house.) So, no, saying you're a skinnydipper doesn't necessarily make people not think you're crazy. Or maybe my sister just thinks I'm crazy anyway. Maybe I am crazy. LOL
Melissa
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Cheri
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Posted - 01/06/2008 : 7:46:18 PM
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Melissa, It's not you IMHO. You've got all the Ts crossed and all the Is dotted.
Hugs, Cheri
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