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FireProf
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 Posted - 10/13/2013 : 12:41:37 AM
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On the one hand.. I don't sit there "spread eagle" for extended periods of time. For one thing, I don't find it all that comfortable. But I don't really worry or think about it when I get up off the chair or lay down. I think a lot of these topics are kinda silly.
Jennifer
BUT ... are you saying you do? I agree that it's not a topic that most veteran nudists talk about or worry about. Most times ... these topics are started by guys that happen onto these sites to troll. But once in a while, you do get someone on here that is new ... that asks a question, that's been asked over and over ... and I think many of us, me included, can be too quick to judge or dismiss a simple question because we suspect a troll or ... we're tired of commenting on those topics.
So Jenn ... answer this question as a veteran, female nudist ... "why would you sit "spread eagle" even if not for an extended period of time? And why do you, personally feel, it's uncomfortable? Just curious ... from a female nudists point of view.
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 10/18/2013 : 5:25:07 PM
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In "public" at a beach or resort I don't usually sit that way. Not not modesty reasons, but just because I don't like to sit that way. If I see someone else sitting that way, I don't really care, but Its not like I sit and stare at peoples crotches anyway...so after a glance my eyes have moved on.
The only example I can think of is when people might be stretching or doing yoga naked.. at a beach or on the lawn area of a club..where they might be in a pose that their legs are spread. I have seen these people from time to time at a nude beach or club and doesn't bother me at all. And they usually tend to set up away from others anyway.
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FireProf
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Posted - 10/21/2013 : 9:13:11 PM
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I get what you're saying. It's not really a comfortable position and even less comfortable when you get older, like me, that that position tends to pull at groin muscles and after a short while ... it is uncomfortable. My wife has sat like that for a brief period of time when she needs a change in position, while reading her book. But, even in that position on a lounge ... can't see much anyway ... but it's uncomfortable after a brief period so ... she finds another position.
I was at the club today and saw two guys positioned as you stated. One was doing yoga stretches on his lounge. Man ... that guy was limber! The other guy ... great tan, ALL over and I can see why ... he was spread eagle, in several positions, for long periods of time. I guess that's how you keep from having tanlines on your butt creases, inner thighs and under arms.
At any rate ... thanks for answering my question.
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Nudony
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Posted - 10/22/2013 : 08:20:21 AM
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Thanks for your candor Jenn. It's so rare to get women to share that it's refreshing - and enlightening - when it does happen.
A friend of mine related to me this story after a visit to a nudist resort. He was sitting by the pool; just relaxing and minding his business. Then he suddenly overheard a couple of women sitting nearby talking about someone - in pejorative terms. Curious, of course, he looked around and saw exactly who they were looking at. Across the pool a woman was lounging, seemingly asleep, and her legs were dangling on the sides of the lawn chair. Not spread-eagled; just ajar from the legs resting on the sides of the lawn chair.
My friend was now dumbfounded as he heard these women talking about the lady's "completely inappropriate display" and basically completely "dogging" her out with expletives. Because they could see her vagina.
I think this is still an issue for some people because they still haven't "kicked" some of the learned behavior or textile values that have been "drilled" into them. There's still body acceptance work to be done.
I have stretched at the nude beach; perhaps not as elegantly as FP described, but still spread out. And that doesn't even come close to my daughter, who took gymnastics, and would impromptu break into into full splits or carthweels by the pool.
If anyone had a problem with that...or any view of someone's nook or cranny...they still had some body acceptance work to do....
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agde
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Posted - 10/24/2013 : 6:53:08 PM
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Give the ladies a break! The whole point is to have a chance to let the body breathe, to let the air flow to resuscitate and cheer up all those poor clothing-smothered skin cells. Naturism is a time-out from all the gender-apartheid rituals, a time to be just yourself in a social space of mutual respect. We naturists sign-on to a social pact that we cherish and internalize whether, as children would say, we are innies or outies, whether we're doing yoga, playing cards cross-legged at the beach, or sleeping. Its natural for newbies to be curious and struggle a bit with the transition from textile "private-part" taboos, but the reward of being at peace with oneself and others is truly awesome! Sure, veteran naturists, like golfers, develop ways of bending over, etc, but if concepts like "spread eagle", "inappropriate display" or "being "lady-like" have been imported wholesale from the textile world, its perhaps time for a cheerful poolside discussion group on naturist values. Meantime, be comfortable. Don't worry. Enjoy the break. Group hug! :)
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mark85304
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Posted - 10/24/2013 : 10:34:05 PM
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Give the ladies a break! The whole point is to have a chance to let the body breathe, to let the air flow to resuscitate and cheer up all those poor clothing-smothered skin cells. Naturism is a time-out from all the gender-apartheid rituals, a time to be just yourself in a social space of mutual respect. We naturists sign-on to a social pact that we cherish and internalize whether, as children would say, we are innies or outies, whether we're doing yoga, playing cards cross-legged at the beach, or sleeping. Its natural for newbies to be curious and struggle a bit with the transition from textile "private-part" taboos, but the reward of being at peace with oneself and others is truly awesome! Sure, veteran naturists, like golfers, develop ways of bending over, etc, but if concepts like "spread eagle", "inappropriate display" or "being "lady-like" have been imported wholesale from the textile world, its perhaps time for a cheerful poolside discussion group on naturist values. Meantime, be comfortable. Don't worry. Enjoy the break. Group hug! :)
I fully agree. Remember, we checked out textile world values at the gate to the nudist resort.
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Warmskin
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Posted - 10/26/2013 : 7:10:39 PM
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I have no problem with legs being spread if it's a random thing, or a habit. It would be more problematic if the person spreading their legs was doing to to attact attention, or to try to play with a viewer's mind.
There are differences in degree.
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Rodders
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Posted - 10/03/2014 : 7:27:59 PM
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A friend of ours bent over to pick something up off the floor and her husband hold her off for exposing too much. By that I imagine he meant her anus. This really upset her and I later just said we are nudists and our bodies are beautiful. It seems even some naturists have body issues.
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Nudony
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Posted - 10/04/2014 : 09:17:53 AM
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A friend of ours bent over to pick something up off the floor and her husband hold her off for exposing too much. By that I imagine he meant her anus. This really upset her and I later just said we are nudists and our bodies are beautiful. It seems even some naturists have body issues.
Rod
Admittedly, I had a negative reaction to a similar situation - once. My then-wife and I were still new to nudism, we were at the resort; and she was at a stage where she'd become more comfortable with nudity. As I was coming back from the bathroom, I saw her across the pool, obliviously straddling her lawn chair facing away from the pool, going through her bag to get to something (it turned out to be sunscreen). I had an immediate negative reaction. I hightailed it across the pool; I didn't "tell her off", but I did tell her her posture might be "inappropriate" in a nudist setting. She got a little upset and retorted that if people were bothered by her posture, then maybe the whole thing about nudist acceptance and freedom was a lie.
This certainly wasn't my proudest nudist moment. I had reacted out of ignorance and selfishness. We talked about it on our way home; I realized I had made a mistake. The last thing I wanted was for her to start becoming self-conscious all over again after making so much progress as a reluctant wife. That day I decided I was going to be over what other people saw and how they might react to it. There's no such thing as "selective body acceptance."
In the situation above I might have said something to the husband - depending on his mood at the time. So people might have seen his wife's anus...but so what? It's not a reflection on either one of them...and certainly not him. How many people have seen my wife's anus? Probably many; and none of it really matters.
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Rodders
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Posted - 10/04/2014 : 7:22:53 PM
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The really sad thing about the incident wa, that there were only the four if us about, and we had been very good friends for quite a while. I did have a quiet word with him saying, that as naturists, we should be fine about all our parts. I think he was just embarrassed and admitted he had been harsh to his wife. Later, I Also spoke to her, saying that I had not found anything either wrong or in the least offensive about her brief posture, and she seemed very glad I'd said something.
The last thing we nudists should be is embarrassed by our own bodies. Like you Nudony, I suspect many have seen my wife's anus and mine, and really it matters not a jot to me. If you are naked, you should be able to bend over just as you would when dressed.
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blavan
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Posted - 10/06/2014 : 09:22:13 AM
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At nudist resorts, clubs, and beaches it is normal to see the anus and genitalia of other people around us on a regular basis.
We have also been in nude yoga classes and other exercise classes in the nude. Every body part gets exposed during these exercises.
Why should any of us be embarrassed about the sight of any body part.
It would be obvious if someone in a typical nudist place like around the pool, were posing for extended periods of time as if they were being photographed for a porno magazine. Been nudists since the 90's and have never seen that at a nudist club. As nudists, how can we be offended by seeing somebody naked?
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Warmskin
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Posted - 10/27/2014 : 12:33:52 AM
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I agree fully with Blavan. Why do nudists get squeamish about body parts? There are only two types of genitalia - male and female. Each gender's genitalia look alike. Seen one, you have seen them all. There are 150,000,000 sets each of the same genitalia for men and women. That's a bunch. It's very common in the USA, let alone the world.
It's not all that exciting to see body parts, given that they're all the same for each gender. If one is uncomfortable with seeing a body part, what are they doing at a nudist resort? There just isn't any privacy at a nudist resort.
Just be calm and cool when you see someone's genitalia.
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Digital_Cowboy
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Posted - 10/27/2014 : 12:47:26 PM
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As has been said, this topic comes up from time-to-time as newbies find their way to the site, and sadly, as others have said when trolls also find their way to this site. The only thing about the question that I find to be “silly” is how according to some that there is, even if it’s an “unwritten” rule. That some poses/postures/positions are acceptable and others are for whatever reason are not.
My personal philosophy is that anything that is acceptable while clothed is and should be acceptable while nude, and vice-a-versa. Also as has been pointed out whether or not a particular pose/posture/position is or isn’t “acceptable” is in the eye/mind of the person who for whatever reason is/was offended.
And as has been pointed out time-and-time again we are nudists, we’ve, supposedly, come to realize that there isn’t anything offensive about the human body. So given that, why do some find some poses/postures/positions to be somehow “offensive?”
If you ask me this is very similar to the male oriented topic of what to do about a so-called “unwanted” erection. Most if not all men know that there are times when no matter how mature we are that there are times when we will have an erection. Yes, in some circumstances we can exercise some control over it, but that is NOT a given.
In both cases i.e. the poses/postures/positions or the so-called “unwanted” erections. It is what the person is doing that they should be judged on, and NOT on what the pose/posture/position that they are in, and likewise a man should not be judged just because he has fallen asleep by the pool or on the beach or wherever and gets an erection.
Now if a person has assumed a position that some for whatever feel is inappropriate or a man has an erection and they start to masturbate then YES that IS wrong, and they should be called on it.
And despite what some people may think/say, just because a man feels an erection coming on, it does NOT mean that they “need” to “stop drop and roll” or to “cover up” until it passes. As has been pointed out in the myriad of posts/threads on the so-called “unwanted” erection there are plenty of men out there who have had a penile implant. Does that mean that these men shouldn’t be allowed in the various nudist venues? No, they should not be “banned” it should be understood that it is something beyond their control.
Or another way to look at it is that as I am sure we all know there are women who have “small” hardly noticeable clitoris’ and there are women who have very large and very noticeable clitoris’. Does that mean that the women who have very large and noticeable clitoris’ have to take “extra precautions” that their “smaller” sisters don’t have to?
As has been said, the human body comes in all manner of shapes, sizes, and proportions. And no matter how it is configured it is a beautiful thing to behold.
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Badgerguy
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Posted - 03/12/2015 : 3:11:40 PM
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As a first time nudist at Couples Negril, I really don't understand the issue. I saw big penises, small penises, shaved "lady parts", unshaved lady parts, clit piercings, naturally open labia, perfect boobs, saggy boobs, enhanced boobs, but never did an urge come on me. I was with my fiancé, and I suppose that had something to do with it, but I don't understand if everyone is naked in a non-sexual environment how anyone would be aroused by that. What it did for us was just make the night-time that much more special.
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Posted - 03/13/2015 : 12:00:55 PM
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I agree completely with Digital Cowboy. If a woman wants to get an "all over" suntan on her crotch it shouldn't be anyone's business if she has her legs apart and her crotch toward the sun. Or maybe she is comfortable and doesn't care if her female parts are as exposed as a man's parts. No big deal. And no man should be ashamed if his man parts are doing biological responses to having a nice day. It is not a problem unless you make it a problem.
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