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 Posted - 10/15/2003 : 11:44:30 AM
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What in your opinion is the best method of educating the public about the nudist lifestyle?
Is it harmful to even call it a lifestyle? Some nudists feel they are not practicing an alternative lifestyle, and this mental association is harmful.
How would you promote nudism, if you were to design an education program for the public?
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calmnude
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Posted - 10/15/2003 : 6:18:12 PM
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it is not an "alternative" lifestyle. and it has to be promoted simply and as fun. think the preachiness sometimes turns people off.and the fact that practice is less overt than in other parts of the world makes it harder to "sell" to mainstream america.
it is also facing strong institutional opposition from religious groups and the clothing industry.
and the equation in many quarters of nudity with sex and pornography makes it additionally frustrating.
i think great strides have been made in the past 20 years. it may take another 20 to increase acceptance, which is why i try to convince the younger generation to use their unique perspectives to advance our way of doing things and to change perspectives.
there are no easy answers. if there were, we would not be discussing this. and it is in small steps, sorry, dont see blinding light of mass tolerance any time soon.,
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rockinghorse61
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Posted - 10/15/2003 : 11:51:53 PM
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Trying to appeal to a general audience, such as with a book or magazine article will probably be ignored by most of the mainstream. It will probably get the attention of thrill seekers. Past attempts I know of to to run bus trips using advertisements in general newspapers did not attract desired audiences. Therefore, any attempts to reach a positive public will have to be targeted to specific groups of readers. BTW, if statistics presented in other forums indicate that participation in nudist activities has been on the increase in the last ten years, can articles be placed in travel and vacation magazines? If non-nudist resorts can be featured, can nudist resorts also be featured? Can family oriented parks and resorts in the US be given the same attention as say St. Martin and the hedonistic places in Jamaica? Maybe people closer to the travel business than I am will have some answers. Also, perhaps by refering to Nudism as a form of recreation rather than a lifestyle will appeal to morally conservative friendly people.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 10/16/2003 : 03:48:03 AM
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I do not think naturism/nudism should be considered a lifestyle, that might convey some negative ideas. Word of mouth seems to be the best way to get the message out to people. People I have talked too about nudism always have questions, like "How could you do that?" "Weren't you embarrassed?" "What do you do, just sit around naked?" Once people understand that naturism/nudism is not an orgy, and that we enjoy being free, socializing and enjoying ourselves, have a different view of nudism. A lot of the press we get is negative too, people have a hard time separating naturism/nudism from the hedonism group. We have to let people know that we are a family oriented group, and yes there are adult oriented nudist groups too. We have raised our kids nudists, and what will determine if they continue to be nudests is how they are accepted into the clubs. There seems to be a generation gap, you do not see too many young people in their early 20's at the clubs.
Kim =^.^=
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calmnude
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Posted - 10/16/2003 : 10:14:41 AM
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people in their 20s are turned off by the generation gap, the lack of activities, and primarily the cost. they want to go to relax and have fun and not get embroiled in camp politics. they also dont want to be treated like 5 year olds when they ask questions or make suggestions.
and the "circle the wagons" mentality still exists to an extent, which restricts expanded membership/sustained interest
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tucsonnude
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Posted - 10/18/2003 : 11:31:55 AM
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we just choose to do some things nude that others would do clothed..the negativeism is the media look at this. I think it is not an alternative lifestyle as kim said..just a different perspective. Just being positive and articulate can be one of the best ways to promote nudism/naturism positively. Just stay "in the face" of the detractors. The media and the religious right. (USA)..we are just as forthright as they are. If we convey a positive attitude etc we can get more into this. Yes putting in adverts in mainstream media can do a good job too. It will take time to get the sensationalism out of the minds of the media..If they can sell naturist magazine in a Borders Books for instance might be an option..
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vealj
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Posted - 10/21/2003 : 12:21:54 PM
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I think the question has two parts:
Education & Promotion (marketing)
The first is easy if we remember that nudism is a philosophy, an ideal. We can educate the public about the nudist ideal through free seminars done through Leisure Learning, guest lectures at colleges, Kiwannis Club meetings, booths in all kinds of conventions and RV shows, and air time on public access cable television, or even a traveling exhibition such as the FCN project in Canada.
Marketing nude recreation is another whole animal and involves big $$$ and marketing experts. For instance, the "experts" currently recommend we go after the age group 40-60 as the target demographic for nudist clubs. What this means is that if we don't go after and create newer markets attracting the younger generations, the nudist recreation "business" could be dead in 30 years when all the current practitioners die off.
Take care and ...
Keep it Bare !!!
- veal
http://www.vealj.com/naturist.html
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Kimberly
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Posted - 10/21/2003 : 5:34:55 PM
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vealj I think your right on target.
Kim =^.^=
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calmnude
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Posted - 10/23/2003 : 11:03:18 AM
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vealj. it is an ideal. too bad there are so many cynics out there
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Spontanudity
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Posted - 10/24/2003 : 11:29:02 PM
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This is a question I've considered for quite sometime.
Firstly, I think the internet has gone along way to educating the general public about naturism. I think a lot people expect that naturism on the internet is about sex and pornography, but soon after their initial searches I hope that they soon discover something different. I guess an example is the number of times that messages on this site are viewed compared to those that are replied to. I'm guessing this site gets a lot of lurkers and few contributors.
Secondly, I've been running an MSN group for young people interested in naturism in Sydney, Australia. I've made two interesting observations from this group... There are very few people in their late teens and early 20's applying to join, the average age is about 30 in spite of a 35 year old age limit. And, we have strict membership requirements, so applicants have to offer their age, location and interest in Sydney naturism before their membership is approved. Subsequently, I deny something like 4 in every 5 applications.
So, I ask the question... Are young people _really_ interested in naturism? Does a market exist? If not, why bother targeting this and why not focus on the older population?
Sponta.
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StuffedTiger
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Posted - 10/25/2003 : 02:33:08 AM
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Naturism can be promoted to young adults with families if the local clubs can be set up to provide superior activities for the children that give the adults a respite at a price point they can afford. This may not be as hard as it may seem given the setting of many club activities in nature. What is needed is nature programs the whole family can enjoy.
Naturism can be promoted to young adults who are singles as a superior way to find good mates, although one could never be explicit about that. That could be done among several clubs linking young people together and linking into Colleges and Cities where the girls are that draw the boys. Here, nudist philosophy could make a big positive difference in their lives even if they did not practice nudism regularly thereafter.
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Spontanudity
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Posted - 10/26/2003 : 01:35:20 AM
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Stuffed Tiger,
I think you're right. The current offering from many naturist resorts is simply boring for younger people. Many of the resorts in Australia wouldn't get young people to them, even if they weren't designated "clothing optional".
The only exception that I know of is Cap d'Agde in France which offers a variety of activities for all ages. Its ashame other resorts don't follow suit.
Sponta
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Kimberly
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Posted - 10/26/2003 : 07:19:48 AM
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Stuffed Tiger and Spontanudity I think you are both right. We have brought our kids up to nudism/naturism, if they stay with it is to be seen. They are comfortablw with nudism, but get bored easy at the club. Most clubs are run, managed, are geared towards an older adult, there is just not enough things for the young people to do. I would love to see an offering like Cap d'agde close by. One problem young people have is peer presure from outside the nudist group, which tends to steer them away from nudism. I see a lot of single males, and married ones for that matter, that would love to have their girl friends or wives go to a nudist club with them. Single males tend to be excluded from most clubs, so they have a hard time finding single women to meet at clubs. Another proble is young people do not have the money or time when they are first starting out, to get involved actively in a club. I talk with a lot of people in ther 40's that are now established and have the time, that wished they could have started sooner. You also see younger people at the clothing optional beach, most of them tend to be younger single males.
Kim =^.^=
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Spontanudity
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Posted - 10/28/2003 : 06:44:10 AM
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Kimberly, one of the most amazing things about cap d'agde is the age range. There are plenty of younger people in groups playing around the beach and everybody is welcome... oh... I want to go back! Its naturism heaven!
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TwoTrips
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Posted - 11/16/2003 : 1:08:49 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Kimberly
We have raised our kid’s nudists, and what will determine if they continue to be nudists is how they are accepted into the clubs. There seems to be a generation gap, you do not see too many young people in their early 20's at the clubs.
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Originally posted by tucsonnude
Just being positive and articulate can be one of the best ways to promote nudism/naturism positively.... If we convey a positive attitude etc we can get more into this.
This is a very good Discussion Group you have going here. It is allowing like-minded people to put their collective intelligence together for the good of humanity.
The first and most important issue that needs to be addressed is Education. The general populace starting with the media , the politicians , and the morally self-righteous, need to be show that Naturism/Nudism is a choice of freedom, being made by people of all walks of life, to feel comfortable in our own skin. That we are simply choosing to feel good about ourselves, and each other. That it's not an attitude or lifestyle of perversions and deviates. I think if the world as a whole could learn to accept this concept and even participate. There would be less violence and war and more cooperation and people helping people.
I think it would be easier for the younger generation as well. If more of their piers were raised open-mindedly, their piers would share in the activities that they have grown to enjoy with their families. To accomplish this we need to choose representatives that are Intelligent and knowledgeable enough to articulate about nudism.
One such person to help us by teaching us how to get our message out is "Cheri" !!! http://www.nudist-resorts.org/talk/pop_profile.asp?mode=display&id=17
As long as it feels Right and Nobody gets Hurt......
TwoTrips
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Cinderela
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Posted - 11/16/2003 : 10:51:09 PM
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People seem to be becoming more open minded, especially college students. They've seen everything and done everything. If we educate the public about all the other subjects, they may be smart enough to see that nudism is not even worth giving a second thought, it's not bad, so it must be good. If it's not bad then why argue about anything, let's all be nudist.
We need more college students, I can't stress that enough. Also people talking about it on TV and in magazines helps. Especially if their comments are geared towards young people since young people like college students aren't set in their ways.
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a portrait of the older more dignified Cinderela
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