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TigerTiger
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 Posted - 09/06/2012 : 6:08:45 PM
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At a recent visit to a nudist resort, I was reading by a pool. There were two boys and two men in the pool, but no one else around except for me. I noticed that when the boys got out, so did the men, who I assumed were friends or relatives of the boys. One man dried off and walked away, but the other stayed in the area after drying off and watched as one of the boys got dressed. The boy who stayed nude went to the larger, more crowded pool. I got the impression that the man was not the boy's father, since his belongings were at a different table than the boy's, and he acted more like a stranger, remaining distant and never speaking to the boy. The man followed the boy to the other pool, where the boy met with who I assume were his sister and teenage brother. The man sat by the pool for the rest of my time there.
I found it odd that two men, strangers, left immediately after the boys, and that one of them even followed one of the boys, but it could just be an innocent coincidence. Now, the point of this topic is not to discuss what you or I should've done in that situation. I did not feel it was enough to accuse the man of anything, and being a single man myself, I wouldn't want someone to accuse me of something on so little evidence.
I'm sure most kids know not to talk to strangers, but if you've grown up in a nudist setting, or have kids of your own, do you teach them to be aware of such threats?
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Nudony
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Posted - 09/06/2012 : 11:09:55 PM
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We basically taught our daughter the same things we taught her in the "outside" world: to not venture outside the pool area alone, to always stay close to other kids or adults she knew and trusted. We never got into specifics of "who" to look out for or any other specifics; we didn't need to.
During our time at nudist resorts and non-landed clubs there was never any incidents. A couple of instances of prolonged gazing; but never so much that I had to intervene.
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FireProf
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Posted - 09/07/2012 : 12:40:52 AM
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In some cases ... I would not hesitate to let my mind wonder when I'm watching my grandkids. While we were on St. Martin and staying at Club Orient ... we had several couples that are very close friends and their eyes were on our grandkids as well and anyone near them every time they were on the beach, in the water or walking around the grounds with us. It was extremely comforting to know they were looking out for them as well. In fact, one of our close friends went into the water and corraled our two oldest grandkids away from, what he thought, was a questionable male, and we had only turned our backs on them for a couple seconds! In all honesty ... it's almost impossible to keep your eyes on the kids every second and it only takes a second for something to go wrong. But you have to ... so I either corral them close to me or block out the rest of the world when my attention is on them.
I think you have to know your surroundings. If I were to take our grandkids to our club on a weekend ... I'd, without a doubt, be more attentive. If we went on a weekday, when it's 99% residents ... I know plenty of them already that they would be watchful of our grandkids, just like our friends on the beach at Club Orient. At our nude beach ... I don't let them outta my sight for a milisecond! I don't care how difficult it is! We do have friends there and lots of regulars that are aquainted with our grandkids but ... I don't rely on our best friends to watch our grandkids ... even though they will and do.
Our grandkids have all been taught about "stranger danger." They have been told that it applies to anyone "we" haven't introduced them to and even then ... they can't remember everyone and it's better safe than sorry and many of our friends, if not all of them, understand that and don't have an issue with it. In fact, they feel it's great that they don't trust anyone they don't know well. When kids are around, at our club, ALL parent and grandparent eyes are on them ... regardless if they know them or not. There's is a wide spread, unwritten rule, that we nudists protect our young and have a heightened awareness in that type of venue. Still ... you can't trust everyone, and that's too bad, so ... I still keep a close eye on our grandkids, no matter where we are and they have been taught, will be taught and reminded about strangers, no matter where we are.
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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 09/07/2012 : 3:18:28 PM
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If neither of these men were parents to these boys, one wonders just where the parents were? I am not unsympathetic to any parents trying to keep track of children, nor am I a raving paranoid, but a nudist resort presents obvious and specific dangers to children that cannot be ignored.
Parental stupidity is hardly confined to nudist resorts. For example ... http://screen.yahoo.com/bison-charges-kids-30507727.html
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TigerTiger
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Posted - 09/07/2012 : 9:09:12 PM
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The parents of one of the boys were at the cafe, right in-between the two pools but out of view of each.
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FireProf
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Posted - 09/07/2012 : 11:33:41 PM
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I think there's a over confidence in security that most nudists have with clubs and resorts. I think there's a greater risk to children outside these nudist venues but we shouldn't take our children's safety and well being for granted at a nude venue.
With any environment ... it's best, in my opinion, to not take your children's safety for granted and watch them constantly ... no matter how difficult it is.
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Bob Knows
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Posted - 09/08/2012 : 09:48:38 AM
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I agree with FireProf that the risks for children are probably more at the local city park or even going to school than at a nudist venue. If not, the children will find a more "risky" (fun) place.
I disagree that children have to be protected and watched constantly. Over-protecting children prevents them from learning the lessons about life that children need to learn. Children need space to explore the world and learn about becoming adults. Its often better parenting to save them after they make a mistake than to prevent the mistake. Be always there when needed, but not constantly watching. Just my fatherly experience and opinion.
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FireProf
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Posted - 09/08/2012 : 10:38:51 AM
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Originally posted by Bob Knows
I agree with FireProf that the risks for children are probably more at the local city park or even going to school than at a nudist venue. If not, the children will find a more "risky" (fun) place.
I disagree that children have to be protected and watched constantly. Over-protecting children prevents them from learning the lessons about life that children need to learn. Children need space to explore the world and learn about becoming adults. Its often better parenting to save them after they make a mistake than to prevent the mistake. Be always there when needed, but not constantly watching. Just my fatherly experience and opinion.
Like with so many written/typed words ... you've taken what I said completely literal! I don't want to continue down this path cuz it'll only take this thread off topic.
Try and not look for things you disagree with in a post but take it for face value and not read too deeply.
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Nudony
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Posted - 09/08/2012 : 3:08:20 PM
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Without getting into a debate of "good vs bad parenting", which would be utterly pointless...all you can do is try your best.
I usually kept an eye on my daughter at the resort; but at ALL times? That would have been next to impossible unless I physically tied her to the chair next to me. She was a very active kid and was all over the place at the resort; usually around the pool, but occasionally outside of the pool area. Rarely did she fall outside of view; but it did happen occasionally. One time it happened while at Cedar Creek. One minute she was by the pool; a moment later she was out of sight. I saw her Mom over by the residents' homes chatting with a couple of women; but without our daughter. I simply got up, concerned but certainly not panicked, and sought her out. I asked a couple of people on my way; they immediately knew what kid I was asking about, where she was and who she was with. It turned out she had been invited by one of the residents' kid to play some Playstation at their home. She'd accepted the invitation before the parents got a chance to come seek us out.
Do I feel bad about that episode? Why would I? To say "well nudony...you were just lucky that wasn't a pedophile that invited your daughter to play Playstation" is essentially saying that my daughter was not intelligent enough to know the difference. And that other nudists would turn a blind eye to such activities. C'mon...
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Try and not look for things you disagree with in a post but take it for face value and not read too deeply.
Of course people are going to do that! I've done it, you've done it, we've all done it. It's simply natural to pick on views we perceive to be opposite from ours and offer a rebuttal. I myself try to limit my opinion to my personal life/ethics/values...but even then I am sometimes misread.
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sailawaybob
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Posted - 09/12/2012 : 9:16:08 PM
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when my kids were small i remember a incident when a couple that were new members seemed awful friendly to the kids in the pool and for some reason he seemed creepy. after awhile i noticed he was trying to talk my youngest into getting on his shoulder and within seconds i was snatching my son from his grasp while my wife rounded up the owner, needless to say i told him to leave my son alone as he explained he was just having fun -yeah right. within a month he was being arrest for child molestation - not from the camp but his neighborhood. you gotta keep a watchout for your kid no matter where you go - the park,mall or a nudist camp - creeps are everywhere.
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