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nudesunguy
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 Posted - 05/05/2013 : 11:15:07 AM
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This past Friday my wife and I went to the amazing Pirate Cove near San Luis Obispo (arguably the best nude beach in CA). It was a glorious day, full sun, temps near 80 right on the beach. Even the water felt warmer than usual. It's a rather large beach and there were approximately 100+ people there. That's the good news. Here's the not so good:
First off, I have to say that we have been coming to this beach for at least 25 years; usually about two or three times a year. Recently we moved to the area and it is now our local beach so we visit about twice a month. In the recent past we had noticed a trend of more people, especially the young, keeping their swim suits on (part of the whole "clothing optional" thing?), but this was normally isolated to the part of the beach near the trail, the rest of the beach was completely nude. This is no longer the case; the beach was once 75-85% nude, it's now at least 75% textile. And it's the young, college-aged kids (Cal Poly is nearby) that are keeping their clothes on, which does not bode well for the future.
Of the 50 or so women there, my wife was one of exactly 4 women who were nude. Only one of the other nude women was under 40 years of age. I'd say about 25% of the women were topless; the rest wearing both pieces of their bikinis. The ratio of nude men was higher, but even there only about half the men were nude and the great majority of those were single guys in their 40's and older. Basically, the younger the person, the more likely they wore a bathing suit.
I have to say that everyone was respectful; no one looked at the nudists and giggled and pointed, but we definitely felt like the odd minority; tolerated and ignored. We noticed that there are now so few nudists women on the beach that even the gawkers (easy to spot clutching their Buds with their pants dragging in the sand) seem to have stopped coming. I never thought I'd miss them.
We definitely got the impression that going to this beach was cool, but actually getting nude was not cool at all. When did young people become so uptight? When did nudity become unfashionable? In the past the college kids used to pretty much all be nude; now it very rare, especially for women. This trend seems to have accelerated in the past few years. I've noticed on Yelp reviews of this beach some people are complaining about the "saggy old nudists" on the beach. I can imagine in a few years that nudists will start to feel uncomfortable on their own turf. I know adolescents tend to not want to be nude, but we are talking about college kids here; they should be the first to celebrate their freedom. Then I look at my own two kids, both raised as nudists and both in college. Neither of them go to nude beaches either, probably because exactly ZERO of their friends do.
We've seen this trend on other CA nude beaches. This spring we were on a great beach in Santa Cruz (which also has a large college nearby) on a very warm and wonderful day, and there were exactly 5 nudists on the beach, no one under 45 years old. I recall seeing photos of Bonny Doon beach (also near Santa Cruz) in the 1970's and there appeared to be a hundred people there. Have college kids changed that much? I hate to say it, but many trends start in California, and I have to wonder if this is the future?
I realize this is one's person's perception. Maybe things are different on other CA beaches and elsewhere in the country? We haven't been to the north coast beaches in quite a while; maybe things are different there?
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baie rouge nudists
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Posted - 05/24/2013 : 7:38:11 PM
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Same thing is happening on the eastern seaboard, specifically, Fire Island. According to a new decree, under the guise of hurricane damage; Lighthouse and Kismet beaches will no longer tolerate nude sunbathing and have basically declared war against nudists. This beach has beeen a popular naturist beach for almost 35 years. Supposedly, certian naturist organizations are fighting in D.C. to lift this ban, but so far nothing is being done. Apparently, some Nazi named Lisa Kotschmann who is a park ranger has been put in charge and without knowing all the facts has enforced her will on the rest of us. Hopefully this will change soon.
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FireProf
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Posted - 05/24/2013 : 8:47:29 PM
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She must be sister's with Ruth Coleman in Calfornia! hahaha Thankfully, Ruth had to step down because of a scandle surrounding cutbacks on services and closing parks due to a short fall ... only to find out the the Dept of Park and Rec was paying out upper level management positions, incentives for retirement, including paying for sick time they shouldn't have gotten. Not a good thing. Upside ... I think the current Director is at least willing to talk to naturist groups about what happened and possibly find some mutual ground. We are keeping our fingers crossed here in So Cal and throughout the state. NAC and the various beach groups are working together to get us back our beaches!
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nudesunguy
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Posted - 05/28/2013 : 10:00:50 AM
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Very depressing to hear there are problems on the east coast also.
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sailawaybob
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Posted - 05/30/2013 : 7:48:36 PM
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i've noticed a few times at apollo beach in florida especially later in the day a enflux of textile walking up and down the beach , now to get to the limited parking nude beach you pass by four other beach areas with unlimited parking. and i don't think these are the gawkers they are usually up on the boardwalk with binoculars and cameras. i often wonder if they are trying to get the nerve up to participate or are looking for misbehaving they always seem polite and will stop and chat or wave passing by.
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Warmskin
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Posted - 06/02/2013 : 08:59:42 AM
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In a somewhat related evolving thing, kids in middle or high schools often do not want to shower nude in front of other kids during PE, and thus don't have to. In my day, showering was mandatory for PE classes. We gave no thought to stripping and showering with each other.
Seems that gymnophobia is deep-seated in today's schools, and it gives on cause to think this might be true in the future to a higher percentage of people versus today.
The flower-children nudity of old is no longer sought after by now older ex-flower kids, and the young gymnophobic techies are replacing them. That could be a bothersome trend in the future, at the beaches and to a lesser degree at nudist resorts.
Techie toys and nude biology are seemingly mutually exclusive.
“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
Ben Franklin
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nudesunguy
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Posted - 06/02/2013 : 11:09:09 AM
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Something is definitely afoot. I spent the last two days at Pirate's Cove. On Friday my wife was one of only two nude women on the entire beach. Many women were topless, many wore bikinis. It's pretty obvious that topless is now "cool for the younger crowd," but full nudity is "uncool." I'd say about half the guys were nude; this included quite a few older, single guys. One thing that struck us was the lack of older (40's through 60's) couples on the beach...it was mostly younger couples and single guys.
On Saturday things were more back to "normal": several older couples and more nudity in general, however, the college-aged kids did not vary from their "topless only" routine, with a couple of exceptions. And I couldn't help but notice that the young women who were nude were alone; apparently peer pressure keeps the rest from enjoying the nude beach nude. Nevertheless, it's a great beach even though it sometimes looks more like Miami Beach than Haulover.
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sailawaybob
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Posted - 06/06/2013 : 10:46:21 PM
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warmskin that brings back old memories i remember being 12 yoa in the 7 th grade the first day going to pe class, as we entered the locker room the coaches told us to take a seat on the benches as i gazed around i saw rolls of lockers and two gang shower rooms. one coach than proceeded to instruct us us what we needed in several days - white t-shirt, jock strap, blue gym shorts, white socks and sneakers. be prepared to dress out and participation is Mandatory at the end of class you will strip and shower mandatoty any questions, lol how wided eye we all were.kids now days live in a screw up society - not a day goes by that i remenisse on my childhood and the values i was taught.
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Warmskin
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Posted - 06/26/2013 : 12:11:08 AM
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What nudists need to do is to "invade" nude beaches and make the textiles feel weird by their lesser numbers. Make them feel like the oddballs. If you see one or two people wearing swimsuits, have some nudists take a spot adjacent to them on the beach. Sounds impolite, but it may make one of two things happen:
1. The textiles will go to a textile beach.
2. The textiles will become nudists at that beach to avoid being weirdos.
Yes, Bob, wasn't it fun to have mandatory nudism in schools when we went to them!!
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nudesunguy
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Posted - 06/26/2013 : 09:37:45 AM
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Great idea WS, the only problem is that there aren't enough nudists to go around. In fact, the last time we were there we had textiles sit on BOTH sides of us. I just cannot fathom the desire to wear swimsuits on a NUDE beach; one jump in the water will tell you it's a bad idea.
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Warmskin
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Posted - 07/09/2013 : 04:54:53 AM
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Well, NudeSunGuy, you're correct, but with some organizing, the nudists could concentrate on one beach, thus making their number more dramatically seen at a particular beach. Fer instance, all the local nudists could go to, say, Pirate's Cove Beach, instead of diluting their numbers at different nude beaches in the area.
The nudists could even point to the textiles' swimsuits and laugh. Or, they could go up to a textile, and ask them why they wear swimsuits.
I guess there must be a way to solve this problem.
“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
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nudesunguy
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Posted - 07/09/2013 : 10:44:36 AM
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The thing is, there are NO nearby nudist beaches or resorts that I know of. And the population of the nearby (within a hour) towns/cities has got to be a couple hundred thousand; where are the nudists?
I do think you are correct, the locals on the beach don't have much organization, although there is one guy who walks up and down the beach naked every day carrying a pirate flag. He always seems to have a great-looking, and sometimes nude, young lady or two with him. That alone should inspire other young men; I know it would me if I was young and single. I do plan to ask (in non-threatening fashion) some of the young people why they don't go nude. I don't think pointing at their swimsuits and laughing will work ;-). We have seen some real head-scratching behavior. For example, there was one guy who was naked on the beach and then put on his swimsuit every time he jumped in the water (isn't that backwards?). Another was a woman who wore a FULL dress while she floated on a raft with her swimsuited husband. She was completely soaked; that must be comfortable...
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