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JCP
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 Posted - 06/28/2013 : 06:40:11 AM
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Hi Everybody,
I throw this to you as 'Devil's Advocate'. I have been going through some old posts on both contentious and benign issues. There seems to be a pattern of new enquires/enquirers bringing up subjects of concern, normally of a male sexual nature, being either gently or aggressively shot down by the old school rear guard. Although Society is progressive and an established forum is a society, certain subjects are rounded on.
An example would be 'unwanted erections'. It would seem a lot of men, often new members, would like to discuss it. If they try they are dealt with. Once they have met the united front they sometimes put up a spirited defence. Invariably they get called 'tolls' and then back down.
One of the subjects on the forum was a study on 'The relationship between naturism, sexuality and sexual wellbeing' published in August 2008 in the academic journal 'Health and Place'.
The conclusion.
“Naturist environments potentially offer a unique space in which people can explore the breadth of their sexual feelings in ways that are frank but no-exploitive. Such opportunities may provide a welcome addition to the current programme of promotion of sexual wellbeing and breath new life into naturism.”
As an example, wouldn't the non-prejudicial way forward be to have a Forum Title of 'Wanted Erections' and discuss the subject in a way that might put Women's anxieties at ease and possibly encourage more Naturists of both genders?
I look forward to your comments, possibly being shot down and called a 'Troll' because my confidence to place topics is knocked.
JCP
Naturists lent Textiles the world - their shame is they won't give it back.
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Nudony
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Posted - 06/28/2013 : 08:04:50 AM
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The topic of erections has been around since the very first time I visited a nudist website. Just about every single nudist message board or forum has one or several threads about it. Often, instead of merely being a "Q and A" about erections, the threads turn into a debate between the "pro-erects" and the "anti-boners." Which then goes on for pages and pages...
I was at a get-together once; one woman brought up a priapic visitor who'd been at the previous get-together. She had taken his erection personally. But then I was a bit surprised by the other women's response to it: one woman who had met him said she hadn't really cared about it because he was a nice guy and never went into "flaunting mode." A couple other women chimed in and said they were ok with accidental/spontaneous erections as long as it wasn't pointedly exhibitionistic. Except for that one woman, the consensus was that they didn't really care about seeing an erection as long as it wasn't an exhibitionistic exercise. If that microcosm is in fact a reflection of how nudist women - as a whole - feel about it...is there really much more to discuss about it?
I am myself not one to shy from controversial topics. For example, I've often expressed my viewpoint that a woman should feel comfortable sitting, lying or holding whatever posture a man can while nude. I developed that opinion after watching my own wife struggle with how to sit or lay while nude; I thought it was ridiculous that she should care about other people's perception/view of her vagina within the context of people being socially nude.
That being said, that particular topic doesn't elicit page upon page upon page of threads and comments. And why not? It's still genitals we're talking about! Imagine for a second a nudist forum that primarily has vaginas and penis as topics. What would a visitor think? What impression of nudism would that person get from just reading about penis and vaginas.
Don't get me wrong; they are valid topics. That conversation between these women about erections was actually quite enlightening. But do penis or vaginas really have to be discussed beyond that? I fail to see the purpose...
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JCP
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Posted - 06/28/2013 : 3:52:22 PM
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Hi Nudony,
This is reply number two as I deleted the first one by mistake. Thank you for giving an opinion.
My point, although longwinded because of the example, is to do with new members challenging the old on contentious issues. The most debated issue I have found to date that serves as an example is on erections.
I agree that it has been debated to exhaustion and yet it still generates opinion from new members and demonstrates my point I hope. I'm not going to give my belief regarding erections again, that's what I was trying to edit out, as that's not the point of my post. I'm not trying to reignite the debate. I am content with my position. If it comes up again (sorry about that) I will join in that debate.
Is a new forum, without established members, a healthier place to debate?
As an amendment to the original proposition. Does private communication between members undermine the process of open debate?
JCP
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