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Psycho K
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 Posted - 08/20/2011 : 06:18:46 AM
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Of the nudist special interest groups I know of, I don't understand the LGBT one that well. It feels like the primary reason it exists is because of society's general lack of acceptance for us (I'm bi). If LGBT individuals were completely accepted, I don't think our differences would be relevant.
It is relevant when intimate behavior is hihgly accepted or encouraged; after all, it's nice to know that your chance of awkwardly flirting with someone straight is greatly reduced. Since we're a minority, I can see the appeal in this, but I'm going to doubt there's a higher incidence of nudist clubs or areas of this sort among LGBT nudists as compared to nudists in general.
That said, I would hope it's perfectly possible for a LGBT couple with an adopted child to go to any of the numerous "family-friendly" clothing-optional beaches without being hassled. I don't know how that really gets received though since I am new to nudism. I have been naked in public just once (Lighthouse Beach, NY. 2010) and the most I'd say my bisexuality had potential to affect my experience would be arousal at attractive men and women. No men caught my eye and I don't remember having a lot of trouble being erect (I still doubt there's a need for me to hide it... ), but I felt a little awkward probably because I am still new to this.
I kind of wonder how Cherry Grove's community differs. It's east of Lighthouse Beach and apparently frequented by a lot of LGBT people. It will be a while before I look into it.
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Edited by - Psycho K on 09/13/2011 7:23:10 PM
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Posted - 09/13/2011 : 6:08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Psycho K
It is relevant when the nudist area encourages or is highly accepting of intimate behavior; after all, it's nice to know that your chance of awkwardly flirting with someone straight is greatly reduced.
Please don't contribute to the confusion between true nudist places and others that allow or encourage sexual behavior.
Your calling such a place "nudist" is deceptive, as nudists as a rule forbid open sexual behavior in common areas.
We have no problems accepting others with different sexual orientation, as long as that refers to identity, but not sexual public behavior.
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Psycho K
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Posted - 09/13/2011 : 6:29:48 PM
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Sorry about that. What would places that allow or encourage sexual behavior be called? Romantic or adult-oriented? For the ones that "allow" it, is it then implied that people are naked with the primary objective of getting sexual attention (if they don't already have it from a mate)? I admit that I'm a little confused with proper terminology too and felt "nudism" by itself meant only meant person felt more comfortable naked and made no implications about sexual behavior. If I'm understanding correctly, should I understand nudism as the (completely?) non-sexual kind unless explicitly described as something else?
I'm not understanding what LGBT "identity" is in a non-sexual environment other than, for example, two men holding hands or something non-objectionable like that. Maybe it just doesn't seem like a big deal to me because I've not had to deal with LGBT intolerance that exists elsewhere. Given nudism idea of promoting acceptance overall, I'm just a little surprised that something that feels equivalent to a school's "gay, straight alliance" exists among nudists as well. That's not a bad thing; I'm just interested in how that LGBT identity really factors in.
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Posted - 09/13/2011 : 11:47:58 PM
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You shouldn't read more into romantic and adult-oriented than just what it says: romantic or adult-oriented. This refers to destinations for couples who want to show each other a lot of attention and caring without distractions, nothing more. Adult-oriented means simply vacationing without children.
Places that allow or encourage sexual behavior will not appear in these pages, period. That's one good way to tell the difference.
If you're asking about places that allow you to be nude and also encourage open sexual behavior and hookups, we can't help you. That's not nudism. They probably call it a sex club, or swing club, lifestyle or whatever the code word is currently. Don't be confused if an establishment calls itself a nudist club or resort and then encourages behavior that wouldn't be acceptable in a normal everyday clothed nightclub. That's just operating an adult entertainment business under a false name. We do not support that practice under any circumstances, for a number of reasons.
For a nudist, there is no reason to change your behavior just because you've taking your clothes off. It's not time to get busy hooking up, or acting sexual. Some never get that, and are never satisfied with being merely nude. They'll never be nudists.
Yes, the only type of nude behavior we discuss here is the non-sexual kind, and we call it nudism, or the nudist lifestyle.
As regards identity, it can easily be seen as different from behavior. A hetero couple can be just that, and if asked will say so. They don't have to "demonstrate" how much they are a hetero couple, that would be behavior, and is offensive to many who might have to witness it. The nudist community's acceptance is of the identity, whoever you are, as long as you know how to behave in public. I don't know where this idea that nudism promotes overall acceptance of every behavior comes from, that's never been the case.
It seems you have it right, basically. As long as your behavior is up to a high standard, you are accepted, no matter what type of nude body you are carrying.
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