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 Whats keeps the "younger" people from nudism?

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CMx2 Posted - 06/16/2006 : 02:04:52 AM
By "younger" I mean the 40 and under crowd.

My wife and I recently made our first trip of the summer to a nudist club. Everyone there was extremely friendly and made us feel more than welcome. I have no complaints about that.

It was just noticable that the people our age (early 30s) were almost completely absent.

As this is something that my wife and I enjoy a lot, it just seems a little odd to us that more people our age generally don't seem at all interested in nudism.

Are the Beaches the same way?
We haven't been to any nude beaches in the U.S. I've heard too many horror stories of bad/improper behavior so we really prefer the more controlled environment of a private club/resort.

It would be nice to meet some people in our age range though just to have more things in common.
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thornapplebison Posted - 05/31/2009 : 12:49:22 AM
It's mostly that nudist venues are boring. You've gone swimming. You've played some beach volleyball. You have no idea what petanque is and you don't care. Everyone else is older and they're either chit-chatting or laying out reading. A couple of hours of that is probably more than enough to get bored, and not worth laying out the money or making the drive.

A downtown nude waterpark would probably work. But it would need some aggressive advertising. And if I were going to put that kind of money into a project, even I would probably decide to play it safe and keep the place clothed. Maybe I'd have a nude day once a month and take the loss just to see if I could make it work.



PopandMomBear Posted - 05/25/2009 : 11:48:41 PM
My personal opinion is that the younger crowd has less disposable income and are still establishing themselves by trying to aquire a home and be established at a comfortable level so that is where their money is going.

Randy
olwino1 Posted - 01/31/2009 : 09:25:41 AM
The hot springs I go to in N. California has very few teens . Yet the Beach at Maui has it's fair share . Seems to me that a few on the beach are skipping school . Beats hanging out at the mall for sure . Also , a few more teen girls than boys most likely because of control issues would be my guess . Just my personal unscientific observation .
Warmskin Posted - 01/31/2009 : 05:59:10 AM
I have wondered why teenagers don't frequent nudists resorts. I suppose it could be that teens are less secure in life, and are more self-conscious. They haven't developed the "I don't care what people think of me" attitude. Obviously that differs from one teenager to another, but compare and contrast a teenager to a a senior citizen nudist. The latter is a veteran of life, and has secured his or her position in life, and might not be bothered by how they are seen as much as the teen. I know I have drifted that way as I have grown older. I get to the point where if you don't like me, then you can politely buzz off. I'm not looking for social status that I don't already have. In my high school days, I was much more insecure than I am now. It seemed like I was always in the spotlight back then. Everything was crucial back then. My life was all ahead of me.

It's a bit like football players on a rainy day where the field is muddy. In the fourth quarter, a player who has been on field for three and a half quarters has a muddy uniform. He's not worried about getting muddy. The guy who has just come onto the field has a clean uniform. For him, being tackled might not be so fun. He might get his uniform dirty.

The teenager is like the new player with a clean uniform. The player who has been playing for four quarters is like the older person. He is not worried at all about getting tackled. He's been through it all, and is not impressed by a tackle in the mud.

Not that nudism is dirty!! However, it helps if you have been around the block a few times. It gives you confidence that a teenager doesn't have. Nudism can take some courage if you are younger, and more sensitive about yourself. Hence, possibly they might not be ready for nudism; at least a number of them.

Conquest is not in our principles. It is inconsistent with our government.
Thomas Jefferson
sailawaybob Posted - 01/30/2009 : 11:53:57 PM
Over the years I have been to clubs that I have seen member from infant to late 80's that is what makes nudism great but I agree that even though there have been minorities at some clubs it hasn't a great number, but the folks that have visited were always welcomed to be part of the group.
Bill Bowser Posted - 04/19/2007 : 9:52:59 PM
My very limited experience indicates that each club caters to a specific age group. Since I'm of retirement age I prefer the atmosphere I find at clubs that have predominately older patrons. Younger people would naturally feel more comfortable among a younger clientele. Both types of clubs must continually find ways to attract new members in order to grow and prosper. Those that cater to the older crowd aren't likely to attract many younger members unless they have activities that would appeal to them, but then the older members might lose interest. It seems like a real challenge.

Not wanting to hijack the thread, but I can't help but wonder why I don't see more people of color when I visit resorts. In the few clubs I've visited they seem to be very much under-represented. It would be interesting to hear other's comments on this, especially yours acouple005.

acouple005 Posted - 04/19/2007 : 5:51:45 PM
Hello all, we are a 24 year old African American married nudist couple. Needless to say, we don't see many people our age or of our background at nudist resorts. Nevertheless, we love to go to all types of resorts and clubs. We never feel like outsiders or anything, but it would be nice to see some younger folks there. We want to get involved with with groups and clubs that have a significant nunmer of nudist, but never seem to find those clubs. However, we do like the southern clubs more as they seem to have the largest number of people at them and we are people friendly nudist. Anyway, we dont't have grrpe or concern about our experiences, but we jus wanthed to add to the discussion. I hope the cultural limits that keep people of color and younger individuals away from nudism disapear quickly.

Thanks A&S (please excuse spelling errors, I have to run to class).
bk-yd-nude Posted - 03/22/2007 : 10:36:24 PM
I realize that this thread has been idle for several months, but I think it is important enough to continue, at least with my thoughts. I have three sons that are now adults, but they inform me that many college students now attend "nude parties" in which social nudism is the norm. From time to time some of them may get "wild" but most of them are clean well mannered and would be like the non-landed get together. I would propose that if we could invite them to have their next party at a local landed club, they might find it enjoyable to enjoy themselves where they would not have to be careful to remain hidden from outside.

One other point I wish to make is that while I agree we need to get current music for the evening socializing for the younger people, I do not desire to be a party to that music on a steady diet, so perhaps we have two evening locations so we can pick where we want to go and what we want to hear :) Just like my wife and I like different restaurants on different nights, so would we like to maybe pick different entertainment on different nights.

At one point, I assisted in helping encourage a larger customer base for our local pub, we went to the local colleges (several in a 20 mile radius) and gave several college coeds gift cards that could be used at the pub. Worked like a champ, once the girls started coming in, within a month we had lowered the age median by a bunch and raised the customer base. The nice part was that we drew very nice young people and our food service income increased more then the bar till.

I would propose the same type of marketing be attempted for local landed clubs. If, in fact it is not already being (or has been) attempted ... wonder if we could add clothing optional rooms to local businesses, such as the pub. Probably not realistic, but wow would it be fun :)


bk-yd-nude
later Posted - 01/31/2007 : 3:33:43 PM
I mean the landed clubs that are the small clubs, or as you say parks, on a patch of land, with very modest facilities. The resorts I'm talking about are the ones with lodging,and full facilities and possibly beach access etc.. Commercial operations, pack a bag and have a nude vacation.
The point I was trying to make is that I don't think everyone wants or needs to be a member of some club/ park, non-landed club,etc. to enjoy a nudist life style. Yes some want or have a need for these, but not everyone. The survey states that counting people with some type of nudist membership is easy. The survey , I believe, was done to get some idea of how many more could be added, and get a ball park idea as to how many Canadians really were into some type of nudism.
I do believe that all who enjoy nudism should have a membership of some sort. True numbers, like votes, are what going to influence law makers.
Cheri Posted - 01/31/2007 : 12:29:16 PM
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Originally posted by later

I think young people are into nudism, but not with landed clubs. I think they are more into the beaches, resorts and just going out and being nude whether it be hiking, biking, camping or finding some quiet spot.(snip)



Nudist resorts are landed clubs. Did you mean non-landed clubs? Most landed clubs in the US are nudist parks rather than resorts.
Cheri


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later Posted - 01/30/2007 : 8:41:51 PM
I think young people are into nudism, but not with landed clubs. I think they are more into the beaches, resorts and just going out and being nude whether it be hiking, biking, camping or finding some quiet spot.
The FCN website has a survey they done in 1999 about peoples participation in nudist activities. At that time they concluded that 6.1 million Canadians had done some sort of nudist activity. It also shows that about 9% were under 25, about 12% were 25 to 34, and another 12% were 35 to 44. After that the percentage starts to drop with age. I realize it's an older survey, but it shows at that time about 1.28 million people were below the age of 34 and had some nudist experiences. My point would be that I think younger people are attracted to nudist activities but not to the nudist club. That may come with age. I remember when I was younger, the last thing I wanted to do was sit somewhere nude and watch the leaves change color. Still don't!
sueallday Posted - 01/29/2007 : 4:09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Moderator

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Originally posted by sueallday

We're Canadian eh, we support the FCN.



Does FCN have an arm to help fight when there are problems?

AANR as well as TNS have member clubs in Canada.


I will have to look into that and get back to you. My husband may know. I do know that the FCN does regular presentations to the government and to members of political parties in an attempt to show that the laws as written puts the practise of nudism, under laws that are written for lewd behavior.Further I am aware that the FCN does get involved with nude beach issues etc. by being present at county and municipal hearings, or by suppling, those involved, with legal decisions and past decisions allowing nudist activities. If your asking if they supply legal services that I'm not sure of.
HarleyNude Posted - 01/26/2007 : 02:07:26 AM
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Originally posted by jimmie51



Now, I do think there are other reasons why we don't see younger people in nudism. One, they are just too busy living life. The other issue I feel is some of the views of the seasoned nudists. I have seen some clubs that were so strict there was no body contact at all. I think those types of views are a turn off to the younger croud. We visit the hot springs and public beaches out here in Oregon and they are MUCH younger than the resorts. From talking to a lot of the younger crowd it they like the freedom of not having rules and not feeling like some one is watching over them. We have a big discussion on this topic on my yahoo group NWnaturists.

It's such a hard issue to tackle, it's almost like we need resorts that are a bit looser on some issues while still keeping the nudist value system in place. That's a hard thing to do, you give some people an inch and they take a yard. Anyway, I'm babbling now, but Collins beach is a great place and is a great mix of people of all ages.

Jim



Hey Jim

Ryan here... it was I that posted that article on NWNaturist... I'll see if I can go find it, as I think it will provide some insight to this group of "mainly" older naturists who seem to have firm (yet erroneous)impressions of why more youth aren't getting into naturism.

As a board member of the largest non landed group in the Pacific Northwest, and as one of the youngest members in that group, we have spent many hours trying to crack this mystery and shed light on the "myths" on why youth is leaving naturism.

Let me see if I can find that post...

This is one of the topics that gets me fired up and willing to post on this forum, considering I haven't done much of it here as of late.

Ryan
Moderator Posted - 01/25/2007 : 6:49:26 PM
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Originally posted by sueallday

We're Canadian eh, we support the FCN.



Does FCN have an arm to help fight when there are problems?

AANR as well as TNS have member clubs in Canada.
sueallday Posted - 01/25/2007 : 3:56:14 PM
We're Canadian eh, we support the FCN.

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