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CMx2
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 Posted - 06/16/2006 : 02:04:52 AM
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By "younger" I mean the 40 and under crowd.
My wife and I recently made our first trip of the summer to a nudist club. Everyone there was extremely friendly and made us feel more than welcome. I have no complaints about that.
It was just noticable that the people our age (early 30s) were almost completely absent.
As this is something that my wife and I enjoy a lot, it just seems a little odd to us that more people our age generally don't seem at all interested in nudism.
Are the Beaches the same way?
We haven't been to any nude beaches in the U.S. I've heard too many horror stories of bad/improper behavior so we really prefer the more controlled environment of a private club/resort.
It would be nice to meet some people in our age range though just to have more things in common.
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Cheri
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Posted - 06/16/2006 : 10:36:10 AM
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The resort's or park's complexion can change on a daily/weekly basis.
There are many parks that do have members who are younger. Travelites' mean age (we're a nonland club) is about 35. Haulover in FL has younger people as does Collins Beach on Sauvie Island in OR.
Cheri
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jimmie51
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Posted - 06/16/2006 : 1:20:16 PM
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I can speak for Collins. We try to get out there once a week or so at least when the weather is right. I would say the average age out there is 30's to 50'. LOL I know that is a wide range, but it really is where things are. The upper 30s and early 40s is the bulk of them but it's a good mix. Last weekend we were next to 6 or 7 college age girls. Only a couple were nudists, but it was great to see some younger people out there. (I'm only 33) But it was nice not to feel like the young kids on the sand.
Now, I do think there are other reasons why we don't see younger people in nudism. One, they are just too busy living life. The other issue I feel is some of the views of the seasoned nudists. I have seen some clubs that were so strict there was no body contact at all. I think those types of views are a turn off to the younger croud. We visit the hot springs and public beaches out here in Oregon and they are MUCH younger than the resorts. From talking to a lot of the younger crowd it they like the freedom of not having rules and not feeling like some one is watching over them. We have a big discussion on this topic on my yahoo group NWnaturists.
It's such a hard issue to tackle, it's almost like we need resorts that are a bit looser on some issues while still keeping the nudist value system in place. That's a hard thing to do, you give some people an inch and they take a yard. Anyway, I'm babbling now, but Collins beach is a great place and is a great mix of people of all ages.
Jim
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D-TX
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Posted - 06/16/2006 : 1:57:45 PM
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Many people who are between 20 and 40 have children that are involved with their friends in nearly year-round sports or other community & church activities. Weekends are when many of those activities take place. So the families are not as likely to be at the Nudist Clubs.
Also, many families are "mixed", with a combination of children and step-children. For legal reasons, alot of Nudist Clubs require written permission from the other parent, when minor children are brought to the club. For many families, that isn't an easy thing to get. So the families are not as likely to be at the Nudist Clubs.
For landed clubs, the yearly dues can be $400, or more. And that, combined with the cost of the family's other activities, may cause them to skip the Nudist Club membership. So the families are not as likely to be at the Nudist Clubs.
These may be a few of the reasons that you don't see many under-40's at the Nudist Clubs.
Take Care & Stay Bare,
David
"Gosh that takes me back ... or is it forward? That's the trouble with time travel, you never can tell." - 4th Doctor in the Doctor Who story "ANDROIDS OF TARA"
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Cookie
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Posted - 06/16/2006 : 8:58:44 PM
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I know that last Spring my wife and I were in Aruba, and we were at some of the great beachs, and all we know was the young people (females), when they arrived at the beaches, the were topless.
I know that we were at a beach at the end of the island a few days, and we saw many young people female and male comp. nude.
It was refreashing!!!
We frequent a club here in the Mass/Conn area, and through the years, it has been basically the same group every weekend. Really no new blood. Especially "young blood"
Don't get me wrong, but maybe the clubs should advertise in the local college papers in the Spring such as U/CONN, U/Springfield, Worcester State, S.Conn, BC, etc.
Maybe they could come into these clubs, and put some new light and energy, have new ideas as to attract new people.
Since the temps are going to be up in the 90's we are looking forward to visiting our fav. club in Conn., along with our group of friends.
NO COOKOUT this weekend.
Happy Father's Day to all the Dad's
Cookie
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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 06/16/2006 : 10:55:03 PM
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Thinking back with my few remaining neurons, I find myself wondering if the conceptual separation of nudity and sex is something that comes easier with maturity. While I did a fair amount of skinny dipping with girlfriends in my 20's, I suspect the prospect of true social nudity would have made me distinctly uneasy. Now, in my 50's, I'm a lot more comfortable with myself, and, let's face it, the testosterone tide has ebbed somewhat. Not to mention that I have a lot more disposable time and income to spend on nudist activities now than I did back then. There will always be new young recruits, of course, but I think it likely that middle-aged folks will remain the preponderance of the nudist community.
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Cheri
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Posted - 06/16/2006 : 11:30:33 PM
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Cookie, I would be a good idea if the students read their newspapers. Many of them do not I found out after doing some advertising there.
Hugs, Cheri
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Cookie
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Posted - 06/17/2006 : 6:59:58 PM
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Cheri:
How true!! Living near a metro city, I found out that some the students don't even get involved with the sports activity of the school.
The parents pay for thier tix to all the games, football, hockey, basketball, etc. and they don't even pick them up, and the stadiums are empty.
The reason, their social life is too busy off campus, with all the parties and bars.
Enough said.
Cookie
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pilot
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Posted - 06/18/2006 : 12:23:32 AM
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This is a question with complex social, political and economic domains.
In the social domain, leisure is increasingly equated with "activity". The frantic schedules of young families (pick little Jimmy up at violin lessons to take him to soccer practice...) leave less and less unstructured time. And family social nudity requires at least two families to choose to share that time making it unavailable for "all of the rest of the things that we need to do". My point is that family time is in short supply, unstructured time is in short supply, and family unstructured time is rare.
In the political domain, the younger generation of the 60's and 70's was distinctly antiestablishment. I am reminded that the first nude scene in a mainstream Broadway production came at the end of Act I of the musical "Hair". The current younger generation has a rather different perspective on many things. But nudism is not a "cause" or rallying point.
In the economic domain, "image is everything". And there's not much to separate one image from another when there are no "power suits", only birthday suits. Progressive materialism, which I would argue is everywhere, does not "fit" with shucking clothes.
At some point, the younger people will wake up and realize that they cannot afford to "buy everything", and moreover that doing with "less" is actually fun. At that point, they will no longer be younger people, and I would wager that they will be in their late 40's etc.
A superficial analysis, to be certain, but there you have it...
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NaturistDoc
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Posted - 06/18/2006 : 2:07:10 PM
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Progressive materialism, which I would argue is everywhere, does not "fit" with shucking clothes.
"Progressive materialism"? I'd call it "aggressive materialism"! It seems we never have enough; always gotta have more. More money, more house, more cars, more toys, more stuff. Maybe it's "obsessive materialism". And gee, why aren't we happy yet? Must be "depressive materialism". And always, the incessant pressure to buy even more. "Oppressive materialism"?
Pilot's right. Part of nudity's appeal is its natural simplicity and inherent egalitarianism. It practically defines an anti-materialist point of view. That anti-materialism sets it apart from today's mainstream, market-driven culture even more than nudity itself.
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D-TX
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Posted - 06/18/2006 : 8:10:56 PM
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Originally posted by NaturistDoc
... Pilot's right. Part of nudity's appeal is its natural simplicity and inherent egalitarianism. It practically defines an anti-materialist point of view. That anti-materialism sets it apart from today's mainstream, market-driven culture even more than nudity itself.
Doc
It can, but look at the Nudist Clubs that get the press - it's the expensive, luxury resorts, rather than the simple, rustic, natural clubs. But they're mostly being marketed to the retiring Baby Boom Generation, and not the under-40's with their kids in tow.
Take Care & Enjoy Life Bare,
David
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Posted - 06/18/2006 : 9:48:18 PM
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David, I agree with you somewhat, about the marketing at least. Kid-friendly resorts don't get a lot of positive press, and I suppose they have to be very careful about their print or online ads to avoid running afoul of the child-porn laws. But do, say, - - - or Eden Bay or - - target the aging Boomers? Check out their print ads. They seem to feature a preponderance of 20-something hardbodies. Yet the reality at these resorts is more your typical 40-60 crowd. I wonder ... maybe the younger people feel like they can't 'compete' with the models in the ads, while we old farts KNOW we can't compete and don't give a hoot. Middle age rocks!
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D-TX
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Posted - 06/18/2006 : 10:39:37 PM
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Originally posted by NaturistDoc
David, I agree with you somewhat, about the marketing at least. Kid-friendly resorts don't get a lot of positive press, and I suppose they have to be very careful about their print or online ads to avoid running afoul of the child-porn laws. But do, say, - - - or Eden Bay or - - target the aging Boomers? Check out their print ads. They seem to feature a preponderance of 20-something hardbodies. Yet the reality at these resorts is more your typical 40-60 crowd. I wonder ... maybe the younger people feel like they can't 'compete' with the models in the ads, while we old farts KNOW we can't compete and don't give a hoot. Middle age rocks!
I guess by virtue of the fact that the people who currently get the "Bulletin" and "N" magazines (to see the resort ads) are mostly 40-60, the marketing is to an older and possibly more affluent crowd than the 20-40's mentioned in the original post. It is rather hypocritical that they use young hardbody models in the ads, because when any photos of the clubs are featured in the articles, the truth of their age demographics is plain to see.
I'm mid-40's, and work with a group of mid-20's to mid-30's. They don't seem to be too materialistic or overly concerned about "power suits". But I'll admit this is a fairly small sample, and we're technicians rather than management.
Take Care & Live Bare,
David
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pilot
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Posted - 06/19/2006 : 12:44:43 AM
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- -, Eden Bay, Club Orient etc. are all for-profit businesses that have chosen nudists as their target client population. Nothing wrong with this--but when we read about them, we are typically reading marketing materials not position pieces.
It's reasonable to expect open-access/public beaches and not-for-profit social clubs to display "ordinary folks". But it's unreasonable to expect any for-profit entity to put anything other than its "best face" forward. Most tourists imagining a vacation at a resort would rather look at "model-perfect" images than saggy 50 year olds, regardless of what stares back in the mirror each morning.
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nurserobin
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Posted - 06/19/2006 : 07:42:49 AM
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Most tourists imagining a vacation at a resort would rather look at "model-perfect" images than saggy 50 year olds, regardless of what stares back in the mirror each morning.
I would have to disagree with that statement - when we were looking for a nude vacation - all of the ads with the perfect models in them were a put off - then we found Hidden Beach which had "real people" in their pictures - it was probably what tipped the scales towards going there....
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Posted - 06/24/2006 : 9:47:38 PM
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Dear CMx2,
You kindly responded to my post - now it is my turn to offer my 2 cents. I am 46 and my wife is 50. I just recently became interested in nudism after learning more about it from the internet. Although I commend you for being in your thirties, if someone had suggested to me ten years ago that I should look into nudism, I would have said they were crazy. I simply had way too many issues pertaining to nudity - being nude before a medical doctor was one of them. So I think that as we age, we become more relaxed and less worried about what other people think. That, my friend, is my 2 cents. The flip side is that I wish you success in meeting other nudists who are 30 something.
Best regards,
Paul
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