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Posted - 07/09/2002 : 4:29:10 PM
What are the laws in your area concerning nudity and children?
In some states, the participation of children in family nudism is not favored in certain jurisdictions, like state parks. Do you know which places have stricter rules?
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| Cheri |
Posted - 12/04/2005 : 6:59:49 PM
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Originally posted by newbi
very true i have found in cases that the onset of menses can be very early ... even more so in todays world. as for the child nudity true enough where it concerns medical arias and certain private arias it is not illegal. however the subject seemed to lead to public or unisex arias with children older then toddlers. along with the interaction with adults.
It is NOT illegal for nude children (not toddlers) to interact with nude adults in most nudist/naturist areas/venues. The only nudist venue at which it's illegal for those under the age of 18 is at Hippie Hollow near Austin, TX.
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| newbi |
Posted - 12/04/2005 : 3:01:31 PM
very true i have found in cases that the onset of menses can be very early ... even more so in todays world. as for the child nudity true enough where it concerns medical arias and certain private arias it is not illegal. however the subject seemed to lead to public or unisex arias with children older then toddlers. along with the interaction with adults. |
| Cheri |
Posted - 12/04/2005 : 2:52:08 PM
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Originally posted by newbi
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Menstruation should be explained early to elementary school girls because the normal range for onset of menses is from nine to sixteen, with the average being about thirteen in the U.S. onset of puberty in boys is generally a little bit later, usually around ages thirteen to fifteen.
As for the laws in the U.S. concerning child nudity. It is Illegal. But law enforcement generally turns a blind eye until the local community complains.
Menses can start as early as 8 years old according to my medical texts.
It is NOT illegal for children to be nude. If it were, toddler's parents would be constantly cited, physicians' offices and hospitals would be closed. There are instances in which nudity is not legal for EVERYONE depending on the state in the US and the locale.
Cheri
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| newbi |
Posted - 12/04/2005 : 2:44:07 PM
Without getting to deep into the childhood development theories of Freud, Erikson, and Piaget. It is a normal progression of development for children to be sexual curious. Whether a child is clothed or not will have no effect whatsoever. the ages of 6 - 12 are the basic years of a child's sexual development. education is the key to a child's sexual development. All children go through these stages. It is what happens during them that is most important. We all know what we did as children. Some of us experimented with same sex friends, others with opposite sex friends. whether a child is raised as a nudist means little to the overall development. How they are educated and the morals and values taught are the core factors.
Sex education is important during these years. it should be done gradually by answering questions that the child asks, and nothing more. By answering questions truthfully and matter-of-factly, parents can help their children know all the facts of life by the time they are ten or eleven years old.
Menstruation should be explained early to elementary school girls because the normal range for onset of menses is from nine to sixteen, with the average being about thirteen in the U.S. onset of puberty in boys is generally a little bit later, usually around ages thirteen to fifteen.
As for the laws in the U.S. concerning child nudity. It is Illegal. But law enforcement generally turns a blind eye until the local community complains. |
| Cheri |
Posted - 03/12/2005 : 09:54:12 AM
Kerry, I've forwarded your request for info to my husband lawyer, but your state wasn't mentioned in your note. Last night he asked in which state you were. I just looked at your profile and will tell him. When he wakes ups fully, he may give me some feedback.
Regards, Cheri
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| Bare in the Desert |
Posted - 03/10/2005 : 11:49:14 PM
Cheri, thanks for the link. Was looking up my state and was wondering if anyone could translate some of this:
A. A person commits indecent exposure if he or she exposes his or her genitals or anus or she exposes the areola or nipple of her breast or breasts and another person is present, and the defendant is reckless about whether such other person, as a reasonable person, would be offended or alarmed by the act.
B. Indecent exposure is a class 1 misdemeanor. Indecent exposure to a person under the age of fifteen years is a class 6 felony.
On subject A. If others are not offended can a person be nude anywhere as long as others are ok with it?
On subject B. So if someone is nude in the presence of any person under the age of 15 they have committed a felony. What if the minor is your child or soon to be step child?
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| zackislookin |
Posted - 03/10/2005 : 4:22:48 PM
I am a single (divorced) father of an 11 year old. Unfortunately his mother (MY X) has custody, has re-marrieded and now ives in another country. My attorney has warned me about taking my son to naturist events and camps due to my x's small mindedness about nudity. Anyway, When he lived closer he would come to the house and get naked as soon as he hit the door. He had friends that played with him naked and dressed and I have seen then all engaged in various forms of sexual experimetations from pulling pants down with his friends that were not naked to comparing with the naked ones. I still consider him a very well adjusted child. I grew up in a non-nude family (except for swimming at the local YMCA) and I did my share of experiemting with boys and girls.
Anyway, just a thought.
Any comments. (except for the spelling :)
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| Larani |
Posted - 01/06/2005 : 11:37:15 AM
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Originally posted by Dusty Wake
Same topic different situation.
My wife has heard and is afraid that if there is nudity in the home that her 7 yo granddaughter, whom she has full custody of, could be taken away by Washington State Child Protective Services. I do practice nudity in the home but not wantly infront of the girl. If I am caught, I do cover asap. How serious of a legal issue is this in my state?
In life there is no rewards or punishment, just consequences.
Dusty Wake I can only say one thing don't mess with Washinton State CPS.
I too am a naturalist and and I went up against CPS here in Washinton State and all I ended up with was Bankrupt, Divorced, and finally pleading my to Communicating with a Minor for immoral intent.
Look if you love your Granddaughter and I am sure you do. Keep your naturalism between your wife and you its not worth it. To go up against the juggernaut of Washington State.
I do think it is ok to talk to her about your lifestyle and maybe later in life after she is 14 maybe then who knows maybe then she may want to become involved but under 14 and if CPS is even in the area. Do and I mean do be very careful. Lock all doors and if doors have no locks install them.
Sorry if my first post is such a bummer but I would hate to see what happen to me happen to either you, your wife or your granddaughter.
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| papabare |
Posted - 11/16/2004 : 01:04:39 AM
LVBareHiker,
Thanks for the link. A scary article indeed. It highlights one of the many reasons I dont have many family vacation pics, or many pics from around the house. I used to be a professional photographer but gave it up for different job oppertunites (Not as a spell checker you can tell :). It is very hard for me not to shoot our family or our trips. I take the camera for times when we are at textile establishments, Disneyland, etc. But there are trips where we will be gone for a week and I never take it out. But I suffer the small pains of lossing a great shot, to get the great rewards of children who will grow up without feeling horrible because some body parts are 'The Right Size', needs to be bigger or smaller, etc. I remember the rewards of happier children, playing with more well adjusted friends. I know I won't have to console my children because they are 'ohh so ugly (As said by many other textile teens who will never be happy with themselves without millions of dollars of therapy and surgery)' or 'oh so fat' or oh so whatever else they could think they might be.
It is a scary proposition to be a naturist parent in a naturist family and I can understand why some people are afraid of it and don't do it, but I think the benifits outweigh the risks for us. I can't make that same risk analysis for anyone else though so make your on choices. I just hope you go with the naked truth 
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| LVBareHiker |
Posted - 11/14/2004 : 01:49:05 AM
Here is a link from TNS that may be of some interest on thissubject;
http://www.naturist.com/magazine/Articles/aotm0704.asp
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| papabare |
Posted - 11/13/2004 : 10:48:17 PM
In some states (I wish I knew how many and which) naturism is a 'Recognized Alternative Lifestyle', just like same sex relationships and single parents. in those states CPS can not do anything about naturist activities in the home. But as stated above I would check with your local areas laws and consult a child custody lawyer.
Good luck
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| papabare |
Posted - 11/13/2004 : 10:40:19 PM
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Originally posted by nudeisntlewd
Originally posted by rai_linga
"if a little girl sees a little boys penis, or a little boy notices a little girl has a vagina, it would go against all that has been learned about children's boundless curiosity to assume that there would be no desire to explore that difference."
Dr. Dale
Clinical Evolutionary Psychologist
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Dr.
I agree completely with your thinking. I would not presume to challenge your professional opinion, but I have two points I'd like to make about the curiosity issue.
First, in an open nudist setting, a huge burden of shame on the children is made non-existant. Therefore, natural exploration would likely not get out of control. Questions could be asked, explanations be given and sights could be seen without anyone being uncomfortable.
Second, It follows that those young children become teens. And I think that they may be better adjusted sexually than most textile youth. I've heard many times that the rate of teen pregnancy and promiscuity amoung nudists is far below what it is in general society. If that is true, it would seem to me that the reason is that the casual nature of their nudity means that they don't have a goal in life to get each other naked for entertainment. Situations that might occur with these better adjusted teens are more likely to be inspired by emotion rather than lust.
Randy 
Well I am no Dr. but I have seen my sone (who is now almost 5) interacting with children male and female his own age or a little older or younger many times. The funniest thing, and pretty much the only thing they really noticed at the time, was a little girl comming out of the bathroom my son had just entered and yelled out to her mom and dad 'Mom! Dad! He pee's standing Up! Come Look!!!!' Aparently her father sits down when he uses the bathroom. Then we had an embarassed few minutes of explaining it to her. Other then that I have not noticed any gender difference issues. It might help that he has an older sister, so its all normal to him. He knows the difference between male and female and its no big deal to him.
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| Bob S. |
Posted - 11/13/2004 : 5:59:17 PM
If I may Dusty, are you talking about her psychological counselor or her legal counselor? If the former, that is just wrong. If the latter, there is not much to do except to get a second opinion.
The way I see the situation, since both parents are incarcerated, their current parental opinions are irrelevant. That leaves you and your wife as the only ones capable of making the parental decisions in regards to raising the children. I can't see where the CPS can dictate how you can raise the child. Hence, I would again suggest contacting a child custody lawyer. It is not illegal for her to her father (you) naked.
Bob S.
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| Dusty Wake |
Posted - 11/08/2004 : 8:33:46 PM
Bob S
She is my step-granddaughter. My wife got custody because the mother (her daughter) was victom of date-rape. She never wanted children anyway. The father did not claim responsibility until DNA test. Both parents are now in prison. The granddaughter has been with us since she was 18 months old and with her grandmother since birth. She heard from her counselor that there could be a serious CPS issue and male nudism is illigal activites arould the girl.
Thanks Bob S
DW
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| Dusty Wake |
Posted - 11/07/2004 : 10:13:26 PM
Thank you Cheri for your quick reply. It seems that paranoia has taken over the wife. If I pursue this life style, I'll do it single. Thanks for your support.
DW
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