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later Posted - 04/26/2005 : 2:05:05 PM
Hi All;
Looking for suggestions for tanning oils or lotion. Was using Nude Beach Tan but they seem to have gone missing. No spf stuff that's for wimps.
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StuffedTiger Posted - 03/28/2007 : 11:53:09 PM
A natural technique is to use shade and go in and out of the shade so that you limit consecutive time in the sun and build a natural tan. I start with ten minutes at a time with less than an hour overall over three or four hours. During the time I am out of the sun, I can see if I am feeling it or getting pink and stop. That way, I never burn.

Shade can be as simple as a tree, a UV opaque beach umbrella, a big hat, a UV opaque top or a cabana.

The problem with sunscreen is that it blocks ALL of the burning rays (the UVB that alerts us to a problem by burning us) but NOT ALL of the UVA rays that give us melanoma, the deadly skin cancer. We know all of the UVB is blocked because that can be tested on human volunteers getting pink. The result is the SPF factor. There are no such tests for UVA, the melanoma rays. Nobody is going to volunteer to see if they get melanoma level damage.

As melanoma cancer typically does not show up for 30 to 50 years, and none of the highly touted and approved items have been used that long (except the opaque, pasty stuff), we are in fact volunteering ourselves and our children for that experiment when we use sunscreen.

As bad as that is, that is not all. By keeping most of the sun off of our skin, we stop the formation of natural substances in the skin that have been shown to prevent cancer. So by using sunscreen, we may well be killing both our body's warning system against cancer damage AND our body's defenses against it.

If I MUST be out in the sun for extended periods before tanning up to it, then in that case I use the opaque, pasty stuff. That is the only sunscreen for which it can be shown that no UV gets through. (Don't miss a spot :-). Otherwise, there is no such thing as sunblock:

quote:
Originally posted by CMx2

My wife and I are a SPF 45-50 couple and neither of us have the slightest interest in tanning.
Even so, I managed to get a very light tan this past summer even using the high SPFs. ...


Here is a reference: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5509976

... Dr. Stephen Stone, who heads the American Academy of Dermatology, says that there is no SPF-style measurement of protection against UVA.

"Part of the problem is that UVB -blocking is obvious. You and I will know whether our sunscreen is blocking UVB if we got to the beach and we don't get burned," Stone says. "Whereas it's hard to tell subjectively how much of the UVA is being blocked out by our sunscreen."

The number of melanoma cases has been on the rise since the early 1900s. Twersky suggests that sunscreen may be having a perverse effect, allowing unwitting users to spend too much time in the sun.

"Before the use of sunscreen was prevalent, people knew to get out of the sun because they knew that they would get burned. And burning is the body's natural warning system," Twersky argues. ...

In 1999, the FDA proposed tighter regulations that would have outlawed terms such as "waterproof," "all-day protection," and "sunblock." But the industry lobbied successfully to keep that rule from taking effect.
GrayWolf Posted - 03/28/2007 : 9:40:21 PM
I've got a question. I (a 60 year old guy)started shaving my pubes last fall and have been fighting the little red razor bumps and holding my own. So far. But now it's about time to see the sun again. Does anybody have any experience with a sun block that doesn't irritate razor burn? Or, even better, help it?
OLD BUZZARD Posted - 03/28/2007 : 11:42:51 AM
hi all just a quick note on sun burns.if you do get a little red the thing that works for me is the origonal noxzema cream. it takes the sting of the burn out and feels cool. be sure you are not allergic to it. works for me. hope this helps.............old buzzard
buffetfan Posted - 02/10/2007 : 7:58:56 PM
You can also just apply the oil after you shower to keep the skin soft as well.
Regards, Cheri

Cheri

I agree. I often apply baby oil after the shower and it leaves my skin much softer and smoother then just drying off, especially if you apply it while still wet.
sueallday Posted - 02/07/2007 : 4:27:57 PM
My husband and I use the same tanning methods that Later talks about. We've never had a problem, and the only change we see in our skin is caused by age not the sun. Cheri brings up a good point, adding oil to your skin in the shower or right after does wonders as your pores are open and you really absorb the oil. I love a deep tan but you must be smart with your skin care.
NaturistDoc Posted - 11/28/2006 : 08:57:23 AM
People interested in new developments in sunscreens might want to do a search for my posting from a few months back titled "Sunscreens 101 (USA)" There are better sunblocks on the market now than we used to have, but they're not all that easy to find.

Doc
CMx2 Posted - 11/27/2006 : 10:41:35 PM
My wife and I are a SPF 45-50 couple and neither of us have the slightest interest in tanning.
Even so, I managed to get a very light tan this past summer even using the high SPFs.

I prefer the liquid spray sunblock myself. I still haven't figured out how to apply lotion to certain parts of my body without having to worry about getting arrested!
allnaturalwife Posted - 11/27/2006 : 6:05:32 PM
Thank you. Good to hear there are other "sun worshippers" out there. I will look for that book.

Jenn
homenude Posted - 11/27/2006 : 5:27:14 PM
Jenn,

A good book on the subject of tanning is The Healing Sun by Richard Hobday. He points out that burning, not tanning, is what caused skin problems. He recommends getting a tan slowly in the spring and gradually increasing the amount of exposure over time.

I've done that for years and never burn.
allnaturalwife Posted - 11/27/2006 : 5:10:25 PM
Both my husband and I have very dark skin. We use tanning oil and it works quite well for us. All three of our girls also have very dark skin year-round ..and get very tan in the summer. I can honestly say I have NEVER once had a sunburn, in over 40 years in the sun, and my skin is soft and wrinkle free. My husband has also been in the sun for his whole life and doesnt even have the smallest blemish on his body. We are amoung the few left who arent "afraid of the sun". It can be harmfull to those who are light complected and all, but it still suprises me how many people I see at our club hiding under trees in the summer as if they step out into the sun they are going to melt.

Jenn
shaneone Posted - 11/26/2006 : 1:50:21 PM
I am an SPF30 person. I don't tend to burn easily but would rather not take the risk. Buy a spray on and it is both quick and easy to reach everywhere. Also, make sure it is waterproof, and reapply after toweling off. Better safe than sorry.
Cheri Posted - 09/15/2005 : 10:14:56 AM
quote:
Originally posted by islandman

I've quit trying to put lotion on my forehead. Invariably sweat, and pool and ocean water make it run into my eyes. PAIN? Someone suggested baby suntan lotion because it doesn't sting in the eyes. Haven't tried it yet.

quote:
Originally posted by twk300zx
I've also used it about 10 other times this summer for trips to the beach and nudist resorts, and still haven't burned - except for my forehead! (guess I need something stronger there...).






NoAd (pink) SPR 45 for babies doesn't run.
Regards, Cheri

Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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islandman Posted - 09/14/2005 : 4:09:36 PM
I've quit trying to put lotion on my forehead. Invariably sweat, and pool and ocean water make it run into my eyes. PAIN? Someone suggested baby suntan lotion because it doesn't sting in the eyes. Haven't tried it yet.

quote:
Originally posted by twk300zx
I've also used it about 10 other times this summer for trips to the beach and nudist resorts, and still haven't burned - except for my forehead! (guess I need something stronger there...).


coomsmom Posted - 07/16/2005 : 4:33:17 PM
Skin cancer apparently runs in my family, and being a redhead, I'm very careful to take care of my skin. I try very hard not to burn, and have a dermatologist on the payroll because I have rosacea as well.

One thing he's been very adament about is sunscreen. He doesn't want me to leave the house without at least an SPF 15 on my face because of the ointment I use to treat the rosacea, but when I'm in the sun, I have to use a 30 or higher, and reapply often regardless of waterproofing. I've found I can stay out longer if I reapply about every 45 minutes to an hour. It's a pain but I really prefer that to skin cancer.

I don't remember who it was that said to apply 20 minutes prior to leaving the house, but that's exactly what my doctor said as well, so that your skin is prepped.

Denise

"Too see you naked is to recall the earth." Federico Garcia Lorca
nudetoo Posted - 07/16/2005 : 4:06:18 PM
its only good practice to protect your skin any way you can. moderation of exposure to the sun, spf's , self exams for trouble spots, find it early and cure it early

Just me, Willy

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