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| nude2all |
Posted - 10/22/2009 : 10:05:58 AM
An American man who brewed coffee naked in his own kitchen is facing indecent exposure charges and could be jailed (October 22, 2009) LINK
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| Warmskin |
Posted - 03/18/2013 : 03:17:04 AM
Hmm, maybe he was one of those pesky exhibitionists.
I shouldn't talk. I attended a nude party (card games) and the hosts left all the curtains open. The neighbors had a darned good view from what I could tell while I was outside in their yard looking in (I'm not a peeking Tom). Also, their hot tub was on a deck in full view of the street and neighborhood.
Have to admit I was a bit nervous about being there, but still had nice time. Conceivably, we could have all been arrested. Apparently, these folks must frequently nude in view of their neighbors, and have never been arrested, or questioned. Maybe they bribed each neighbor who could view their nudity.
“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
Ben Franklin
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| n/a |
Posted - 03/17/2013 : 08:51:08 AM
Ok being in trouble for being nude in your own home sucks, but I think everyone is missing the issue it isnt he was nude it was he allowed his nudity to be viewed from public view. Had his blinds been closed and this woman was inches from window looking through to notice his nudity, her arrest would be news. If he was keeping his blinds open before sunrise and doing things nude, sorry but he wanted to be seen. |
| NudeAl |
Posted - 10/31/2009 : 11:43:46 PM
Or having the door kicked in by the police, talk about an over reaction.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. -- Robert Frost
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| blackrebel |
Posted - 10/31/2009 : 04:19:24 AM
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If so, I would have still bought some horizontal blinds that could have been turned upwards so that I could only be seen from above, and not below. I would be assuming that no neighbor had a window higher than his.
That is what I do to prevent law violation. It's good common sense to prevent knocks on the door from law enforcement. |
| Warmskin |
Posted - 10/31/2009 : 12:15:10 AM
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Originally posted by blackrebel
Warmskin ... The issue was that he was seen from the street and the original newscast showed the home from the street and you clearly could see into the house.
People keep avoiding that issue/fact as to why this happened in the first place.
Okay, let me see if I have this straight. He could easily be seen from the street through a window that itself could be seen without going out of one's way. I hope I have that correct.
If so, I would have still bought some horizontal blinds that could have been turned upwards so that I could only be seen from above, and not below. I would be assuming that no neighbor had a window higher than his. I.e., set up something that makes it unable for others to see into his home from the street. That is what I love about horizontal blinds; you can adjust the angle and thus restrict the inward view.
I don't know if anyone could understand what I just wrote. Hahaha.
"All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree."
James Madison |
| blackrebel |
Posted - 10/30/2009 : 8:59:41 PM
Warmskin ... The issue was that he was seen from the street and the original newscast showed the home from the street and you clearly could see into the house.
People keep avoiding that issue/fact as to why this happened in the first place. |
| Warmskin |
Posted - 10/30/2009 : 5:37:53 PM
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Originally posted by HomeNudist
According to another article found at
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/102109_naked_man_arrested_after_making_coffee_update
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Police wouldn't release the incident report or the name of the mother who filed the complaint. FOX 5 has learned she is a respected member of the community, and just happens to be the wife of a Fairfax County Police officer.
Hmmmmm, Is this why the Police are so interested?
Thank you for the link, HN. I played the video and saw his kitchen. It had curtains which were open, but I saw no blinds on the kitchen windows. Had he put some blinds on the windows and tilted them up, no one would have seen him. I should say, though, that I may have missed the blinds, if they did exist. Also, there is some controversy that he might have been a bit inebriated.
The lesson is, if you're going to be nude in your home, and want your windows to see out to some extent, invest in some blinds. Of course, if you live among some high rise apartment buildings, then that would not work.
Good judgment goes hand in hand with nudity, where it is not expected by the public.
"Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder."
George Washington
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| HomeNudist |
Posted - 10/30/2009 : 4:12:40 PM
According to another article found at
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/102109_naked_man_arrested_after_making_coffee_update
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Police wouldn't release the incident report or the name of the mother who filed the complaint. FOX 5 has learned she is a respected member of the community, and just happens to be the wife of a Fairfax County Police officer.
Hmmmmm, Is this why the Police are so interested? |
| Bill Bowser |
Posted - 10/30/2009 : 2:51:48 PM
The Virginue statute reads:
§ 18.2-130. Peeping or spying into dwelling or enclosure
A. It shall be unlawful for any person to enter upon the property of another and secretly or furtively peep, spy or attempt to peep or spy into or through a window, door or other aperture of any building, structure, or other enclosure of any nature occupied or intended for occupancy as a dwelling, whether or not such building, structure or enclosure is permanently situated or transportable and whether or not such occupancy is permanent or temporary, or to do the same, without just cause, upon property owned by him and leased or rented to another under circumstances that would violate the occupant's reasonable expectation of privacy.
B. It shall be unlawful for any person to use a peephole or other aperture to secretly or furtively peep, spy or attempt to peep or spy into a restroom, dressing room, locker room, hotel room, motel room, tanning bed, tanning booth, bedroom or other location or enclosure for the purpose of viewing any nonconsenting person who is totally nude, clad in undergarments, or in a state of undress exposing the genitals, pubic area, buttocks or female breast and the circumstances are such that the person would otherwise have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
C. The provisions of this section shall not apply to a lawful criminal investigation or a correctional official or local or regional jail official conducting surveillance for security purposes or during an investigation of alleged misconduct involving a person committed to the Department of Corrections or to a local or regional jail.
D. As used in this section, "peephole" means any hole, crack or other similar opening through which a person can see.
E. A violation of this section is a Class 1 misdemeanor.
What the woman did clearly does not fit the definition, but it has always bothered me that the onus is not put on the viewer to avoid looking at anything they don't want to see with regard to nudism. In just about every other situation people have the right to display whatever they desire, and those who don't want to see it don't look. Why is nudism treated differently?
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| Frank2233 |
Posted - 10/30/2009 : 05:11:48 AM
I thought that VA had a law that does not allow Peeping Toms. It is his home and he was inside,if he was making coffee he was not just standing in the window exposing himself. |
| Randall50 |
Posted - 10/29/2009 : 3:50:02 PM
It's hard not to identify with this story. How many of us nudists make coffee in the nude? And drink it in the nude on our patios? Keep in mind that nudism is normal to us and not to the textilers. In our society of super-charged sexual crimes, it wouldn't take the press long to characterize a nudist as someone with felonious/criminal intent.
To gain confidence I always heard: "Imagine the person sitting in his underwear." Funny, I had nothing on at all. |
| McNigel |
Posted - 10/28/2009 : 08:50:07 AM
I think that it would be better if nudists stepped away and disassociated themselves from this one.
The story does seem to be changing. I have seen reports that the man went out of his way to be seen (more that once) and it was 8:30am not 5:30.
Also I don't know about the local laws, but in the UK there is no law against trespass, if you can just walk somewhere with no barriers.
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| blackrebel |
Posted - 10/28/2009 : 07:48:42 AM
Bill brings up another issue, what are the VALID facts??
So much has been twisted out of context to fit what a person wants to believe and that goes to the next person who does the same. The original report was that she was crossing the lawn and that bacame TRESPASSING and then why wasnt she accused of a crime ... then she was wrong for having her child out at 5:30 and on and on. |
| Bill Bowser |
Posted - 10/27/2009 : 10:32:59 PM
There seems to be some disagreement about the details of events, and it seems there may have been alcohol involved, but according to Fairfax, VA attorney Atchuthan Sriskandarajah Virginia's indecent exposure statute requires that three elements are present:
* Exposure. Displaying your private parts (breast-feeding doesn’t count).
* Intent.
* Obscenity. The nudity must be accompanied by an obscene act to be considered “indecent.”
The police are canvassing the neighborhood to see if there have other similar cases which might shed some light on what actually happened.
I suspect that this might just quietly go away. We'll see.
Bill in Cincinnati
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| blackrebel |
Posted - 10/27/2009 : 8:17:39 PM
We still can not ignore the facts of him being able to be seen from the street!!!!
Her cutting across the yard is irrelavant if he could be clearly seen ... UNLESS she was in an area that was not visible from the street such as around hedges or around a corner.
Being 12 feet further away standing on the sidewalk makes no matter.
We can not jump to the defense of nakedness just because the guy was naked. Common sense has to be exersized. |
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