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hernandocpl
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Posted - 02/27/2009 : 09:40:54 AM
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ermmmmmmmmm "warmskin". "shouting" in internet language is usally assciaited with writing in capitals.....I didnt. So get off your high horse and stop being so annoyingly patronising. Why kids aged 5/6, something wrong with kids aged 8/9?
Clinton said, I did not have sex with that woman!
Sex to some is kissing and caressing, others penetration, so my response to your pontious reply is BUFFS!
I will do wtf I like with my signature. Stop being an obvious righteous ***hole Warmskin.
Live love and have fun
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Warmskin
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 Posted - 02/27/2009 : 10:43:49 PM
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Please feel free to do as you please; I'm a libertarian, myself. Interesting how when someone writes something such as a comment, they say more about themselves than they do about the person on whom they comment.
My comments were a subtle joke, but some folks are not subtle, and I can't blame them.
As I said, there is a hypothetical consensus of what the general public's attitude would be, if they were to be the penultimate judge on whether or not some social event qualifies as sex on a public beach.
Also, as I said, the word "define" is vague in this sense, because of the complexity of who judges, and what is the implicit nature of the judgment they would render. Remember the Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart could not define porn, but he said he knew it when he saw it. So here, "defining" has no value. Possibly sex on the beach is something that eludes defining but we might have some elastic definitions of our own as to what is sex. So, in that sense just what is "defining." At what point should the police step in and tell someone to knock it off? You be the judge!!
As for me, I don't think a family type of nude beach needs to have an appreciable amount of sex on the beach. The typical family that goes to a nude beach just wants to do what they do on any beach - have fun, enjoy the sunshine, go in the water if it's safe, run around, fly a kite, etc. They didn't travel all those miles to see sex on the beach. If you want to engage in sex, there are mostly likely more secluded places on that same beach.
I don't think, say, having sex on the subway train would be all that appropriate, unless they reserved a car for themselves. A subway, like a beach belongs to the public, and it's best if we stick to the prevalent mood of the people. You can always go to a swinger resort. It may well be we need swinger beaches here and there, and designate it as such. Problem solved, although not likely to be done.
Since we are voluntarily offering posts on this topic, I am offering mine, and you are offering yours. Some will agree with me, and some will not, but I do see some hidden humor here and there, and it's hard for me not to express it.
"Rock and Roll, man, on K-WASH FM, yo, raaaaap with me, mama, with 50 Cent. Git it on, Baby! "
George Washington
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ddoger
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Posted - 02/28/2009 : 03:41:44 AM
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Well "wtggirl" you may not consider yourselves nudist and I'm glad you don't. In my opinion your behaviour in Antigua was disgusting and in no way an activity that should happen on a C/O beach. I have been to Hawksbill and have some great memories there and were I to return to find out it has been closed down due to the actions of some horney, incosiderate a**holes like you, I would be more POed than I am now. Take your actions and get a room. Don't screw it up for the rest of us.
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Admin
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Posted - 02/28/2009 : 2:27:38 PM
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I can see here a re-emergence of the old philosophical argument, "If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?"
There will always be people on both sides of that argument.
Similarly, if a couple (or a single for that matter) do something they know would be treated with scorn by the local community if detected, they are taking risks that we could all suffer for. It is right to point this out to the less informed.
However, when you find yourself calling a forum member an ***hole, you may lose your voice in this forum permanently. So please keep the tone civil, folks, and address the issue not the poster. ALL opinions regarding nudism are welcome here provided the posting rules are honored at all times.
Who knows, you might convince a few more people out there to avoid being this careless in public. I personally tend to take a person less seriously that speaks in coarse and abusive language.
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ddoger
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Posted - 02/28/2009 : 4:50:12 PM
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I apologize for my strong response. Hawksbill was the first place my wife was nude with me in public. It is a beautiful beach without, up til now, any problems with inappropriate behaviours. If we had encountered behaviour like wtggirl had described or rather bragged about, I would have lost any hope of helping my wife embrace a wonderful, liberating, recreational activity forever. It would have clearly tied sex to naturism and any credibility and trust I had been trying to build would have been destroyed. It was difficult enough with the boaters floating by following us as we walked down the beach. It made us feel a little like caged animals on display at the zoo. To have people on the beach openly having sex would have been a disaster. I like sex as much or more than the next person. I have even had sex on a beach but it was not a Nude or C/O beach. We made sure we were very private and there was no one even remotely close by. I would never tarnish the reputation of a Nude/clothing optional beach by having sex there. That has to be the fastest way of screwing it up for everyone. Pick your time and places carefully to express your affection. Think about what the consequence of your actions are going to have on others. Use your common sense and respect the work that others have done to create places where others can enjoy being naked. These beaches didn't just happen by accident. In most cases a lot of work went into them convincing resort owners, local and state governments and citizens that a nude beach is a benefit for everyone and will be a safe place to be. As long as it takes to establish a beach it can take only one or two stupid selfish acts to close them down and screw it up for everyone else.
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MissGreedily
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Posted - 04/12/2009 : 02:03:07 AM
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Well, let me point out first of all, that my boyfriend and I visited Haulover for the first time last week, and absolutely loved it. However... a lot of you are clearly mistaken. We spent all day there (roughly 8am-8pm) and we saw quite a bit of sexual activities... For instance; before we left, there was not only one, but TWO men who had placed their towels within 15 feet of us and were staring at me and masturbating. I got uncomfortable and we left, it had been a long day anyway.
On a side note - I love being naked, and I love having sex. I would love for there to be a beach where it was legal to have sex, and I really wish people were more understanding of that. Why not? As someone stated earlier, if they sanction off a quarter of the beach for nudists, why not sanction off a quarter of the beach for exhibitionists? Put the same parking price on it, and close it off better than they close off the clothing optional beach. Higher fence, for starters.
Don't knock it 'till you tried it.
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thornapplebison
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Posted - 04/12/2009 : 10:56:39 AM
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Hedonism II is there for you, MissGreedily.
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NudeAl
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Posted - 04/12/2009 : 4:11:03 PM
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Anyone wishing to have sex in public please do not do so on nude beaches in the US. The problem is that this is used as pretense to close the few tolerated nude beaches we do have. There are places, perhaps private parites or clubs, where you can go do that if you need that sort of thrill. I am not knocking it just saying your past time endangers our nude beaches.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. -- Robert Frost
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Randall50
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Posted - 07/29/2009 : 10:56:14 AM
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Sexual activity in the open is not appropriate and not part of "nudism." I've had sex in nature, completely removed from other people and very private as it should be.
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DianH
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Posted - 10/20/2009 : 01:04:37 AM
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Yes. When I was at the nudist camp. The problem with nudity -- it was more fun in the old days to go to Plato's Retreat -- which had a more libidinous atmosphere -- I could take my clothes off, and walk around knowing that it was openly sexual. In the nudist camps there was this sense that people were all covertly eyeing each other and pretending that they weren't. One of the guys who worked on Jaybird who wasn't a nudist said, "They're just intellectual exhibitionists. They can't openly admit that they want to show off so they have to come up with a philosophy for their exhibitionism."
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eros4fun
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Posted - 01/13/2011 : 4:58:32 PM
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This kind of activity is disrespectful to others .....there is a proper place for everything !
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nudesunguy
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Posted - 01/15/2011 : 11:26:06 AM
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I think having sex in public is illegal just about everywhere, whereas mere nudity is not, at least in some places. If people want to have sex openly in public, they need to change the law and then get their own beaches for such activity; most nudists don't want them around.
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Warmskin
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Posted - 01/15/2011 : 7:59:23 PM
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On one northern California nude beach, folks build small sex huts out of driftwood, so as not to be seen by others. Fortunately, these people find places far away from the crowds.
"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
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nudesunguy
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Posted - 01/16/2011 : 11:04:18 AM
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Warm, I think you're being a little too generous in your evaluation. Here's a quote from the Gardian's Nude Beach Guide:
"In fact, San Gregorio has, over the years, become mostly a gay hangout and pickup spot. Want to give it a try? First-timers are sometimes annoyed (as I was, years ago) by the driftwood structures on the sandy slope leading down to the beach, which are used by some visitors as "sex condos."
Because of these "sex condos" my wife refuses to go to this lovely beach. And one has to wonder if this behavior would be tolerated if it was het couples doing the condo coupling...
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Warmskin
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Posted - 01/17/2011 : 05:45:29 AM
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What can I say, NudeSunGuy? I'm just too nice a guy! 
Some California beaches are plenty roomy, depending on which ones. If all the nude areas were filled with sexual behavior, then, I would go to another one. Eventually, these oversexed people will make nude beaches more difficult to keep going, and that would be a deep tragedy for us all. One beach, which I have been to is Limantour Beach. It's a big one, and there is room for clothed people, naturists, and sexaholics.
I'd still like to see specialized beaches in California. One for each type, but with more beaches available for textile folks, because there are simply more of them. Maybe a hard-to-get-to beach could be for only sex. That is my fanciful thinking, but it isn't a bad idea. Each type of person wants their kind of beach. The whole of the coastline does not have to be only for one kind of beach-goer, but that idea shows too much common sense to become law. 
"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
James Madison
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