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Rahul7009
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Posted - 09/09/2005 :  01:12:03 AM  Show Profile  Send Rahul7009 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote


Status of Disaster Management : Who's better India or US????


inches of rain in new orleans due to hurricane katrina... 18
inches of rain in mumbai (July 27th)......................37.1

population of new orleans................................ 484,674
population of mumbai..................................... 12,622,500

deaths in new orleans within 48 hours of katrina..........100
deaths in mumbai within 48hours of rain................... 37

number of people to be evacuated in new orleans... entire city..
number of people evacuated in mumbai........................... 10,000

Cases of shooting and violence in new orleans............. Countless
Cases of shooting and violence in mumbai.................. NONE

Time taken for US army to reach new orleans............... 48hours
Time taken for Indian army and navy to reach mumbai....... 12hours

status 48hours later...new orleans is still waiting for relief, army
and electricty

status 48hours later..mumbai is back on its feet and is business is
as usual

USA.....world's most developed nation
India...third world country..

oops...did i get the last fact wrong???

Well Done Indians........Your comments are welcome !!!


~~[({<RAHUL>})]~~

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Corasol
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Posted - 09/09/2005 :  04:49:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Rahul,

Very good ,

Can you give your source of this information ?


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Corasol



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Rahul7009
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Posted - 09/10/2005 :  12:13:34 AM  Show Profile  Send Rahul7009 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
This was forwarded to me by my friend, so I donot know the origin.

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Cheri
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Posted - 09/10/2005 :  09:30:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rahul,
Can you contact your friend and ask where it came from? When an area is used to certain conditions, weather, etc., the people learn to deal with that condition more efficiently.

Cheri

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Rahul7009
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Posted - 09/12/2005 :  12:17:08 AM  Show Profile  Send Rahul7009 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Well, this is the first time in the history that Mumbai has experienced so much rainfall and floods. I will try to search for the source of this information.

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Rahul7009
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Posted - 09/12/2005 :  01:03:48 AM  Show Profile  Send Rahul7009 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Just to add-

Hurricane Katrina and the Mumbai Floods
By Siddharth Srivastava
Special to the Planet
NEW DELHI

Even as the United States struggles to come to terms with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina that has destroyed New Orleans, there is a sense of shock in India. Pictures of victims begging for food, reports of looting, rapes, racist attacks, an ineffective disaster management routine has revealed the innards of America that many believed never existed. After all, making it to America, the land of opportunities, freedom and quality lifestyle, remains one of the abiding Indian dreams. New Orleans is a modern city and a tourist destination.
It makes matters all the more worse when the prediction about the hurricane had already been made but the necessary precautions not taken. Hundreds of thousands have been displaced with thousands probably dead. Damage is estimated at $25 billion and disruption to U.S. refineries has pushed oil prices to record highs above $70 a barrel.

The visuals being beamed in and reports of desperation are generally associated with Africa or less developed countries in Asia. Two pictures displayed prominently by newspapers here speak of the tragedy. A black woman is lying dead on the roadside while a police car whizzes past. Another photograph is of a large group of women lunging for food being distributed.

Some of the voices that resonate: “I really don't know what to say about President Bush,” said a 60-year-old Vietnam veteran. “He showed no lack of haste when he wanted to go to Iraq, but for his own people right here in Louisiana, we get only lip service.”

“They di ed right here, in America, waiting for food,” said another affected person.

Many have been talking about the recent natural disasters in India—the tsunami in December and the unprecedented rainfall in Mumbai in July which was perhaps dealt with much bett er, now that one can compare with New Orleans. In Mumbai, the government agencies were found severely wanting, but there have been innumerable tales of people pitching in to help citizens with food, shelter and transport that checked higher casualties. There have been some reports of vehicles stalled in water being burgled, but no arson and looting to the scale that happened in New Orleans. A couple who spoke to this correspondent talked about the help they received when their car was flooded. The locals in the area arranged for their night stay and assured that nobody would harm the car. Two days later, the couple went back to find their car intact. There have been many many such stories which have been covered on TV as well as print media. Similar was t he case with tsunami, though the governments of the coastal states did a better job in providing relief, apart from the citizen and private initiatives.

Comparisons have also been made to the response to the London blasts in July this year. The emergenc y services in the city responded with a zeal that was commendable. Ordinary people chipped in. Although the police got it horribly wrong by shooting the Brazilian youth, by and large the response of the government agencies has been quite good. Just like n atural disasters, it is near impossible to prevent suicide attacks of the kind that the al Qaeda propagates that cause maximum damage to a peaceful civilian population and outrage in the electronic media. It is reactions post-tragedy that can go a long wa y in mitigating suffering.

In a reversal of usual roles, India has offered a comprehensive assistance package to the United States, the world’s largest relief donor. An estimated 70 nations, from Azerbaijan to Venezuela, Afghanistan and Thailand have off ered cash contributions to the Red Cross totaling more than $100 million, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has said. The American people too are responding with massive donations.

India’s three pronged package attempts to export a combination of materials and expertise, given the experienc



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Rahul7009
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Posted - 09/12/2005 :  01:10:59 AM  Show Profile  Send Rahul7009 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
there are many websites publishing this comparison

One of them is:
http://variedversions.blogdrive.com/

I guess this is also one of the sources.

~~[({<RAHUL>})]~~



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curious1
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Posted - 09/12/2005 :  06:24:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm curious what there is to be gained by this entire line of conversation.

This seems to be a very negative and cold line of comparisons, and I find it offensive. If you see the need to compliment the people in Mumbai, that is wonderful, but to do so in the context of degrading the efforts and events of Hurricane Katrina, then I find this in questionable taste and a source of deep disappointment.

Too many people are using the tragedy for political purposes and that is not a very pleasant thing.



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sailordave
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Posted - 09/14/2005 :  05:26:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I live 120 miles as a bird flies from New Orleans. My city is Lafayette, LA. First off, the USS Bataan, a US Navy ship, and another ship was off the coast of Louisiana and began helicopter rescues at 5pm the day the hurricane hit the coast. The US Coast Guard was also flying helicopter rescue missions. The Louisiana Army National Guard was in the area but under the control of our flustered governor who didn't use them properly. For a US President to use the federal controlled military within a state in this country, he must first obtain permission or request from the state's governor. Our president asked her for this permission prior to and right after the hurricane hit the coast. She denied permission. She is a member of the opposing party and that may have played a part in her decision. After the levees broke and the city began to flood, hundreds of privately owned boats and hundreds of privately owned school buses from the areas of Louisiana not hit by Katrina moved to New Orleans to begin rescues only to be turned back by the Louisiana State Police acting on orders from the state government. Some of those private boaters snuck around and went in behind the state police back and began rescuing people anyway. One thing you neglected to mention in your comparison is geography. Much of New Orleans is below sea level. To the north of New Orleans is a very large lake. To the south of New Orleans is the Mississippi River. The ground in New Orleans is so low and saturated that the dead are buried above ground. If a coffin is buried below ground it will eventually make it's way to the surface.

We the willing who are led by the unknown must do the impossible for the ungrateful.



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Rahul7009
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Posted - 09/14/2005 :  06:49:54 AM  Show Profile  Send Rahul7009 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
It was not my intention to hurt anyone.

Sorry!

It just seems that the US has lost its vision. Its good in making tanks and bullets but when there is some tragedy everyone panics. I am talking about Authorities not the people. I am not trying to show US inferior or anything like that. I like the people of US , my most friends are from US.

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sailordave
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Posted - 09/14/2005 :  07:04:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The city of New Orleans and state of Louisiana does have an emergency plan which includes using government owned and chartered buses to evacuate those who do not have the means to evacuate on their own. Neither the mayor nor the governor enacted this plan. To make matters worse, the last Amtrak train to leave New Orleans offered the mayor over 100 available spaces to take people out of the city and the mayor turned down the offer.

We the willing who are led by the unknown must do the impossible for the ungrateful.



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sailordave
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Posted - 09/16/2005 :  01:34:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rahul, one of Louisiana's Representatives in Congress is the son of immigrants from India. His name is Bobby Jindal. He at first ran for governor against the one who is currently in office. He whipped her in the political debates. When it came time for the election, once again a certain area of the state sent out buses to the poor neighborhoods rounding up the people to bring them to the election polling stations. Because of the dark tint on the buses, no one can prove anything illegal happened on those buses. But we all suspect something did happen cause at first Jindal was leading, then the buses went to town, and he began to fall behind. After coming so close to winning he ran for state Representative which is still a very high political position and easily won the election. After what happened in New Orleans, a lot of people now wished they could go back and change their vote to put the right person on the job. With his brain, I'd like to see him eventually run for president.

We the willing who are led by the unknown must do the impossible for the ungrateful.



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Rahul7009
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Posted - 09/16/2005 :  05:34:17 AM  Show Profile  Send Rahul7009 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Sailordave for the message.
I think Indians do well then people from other countries is due to the reason that India is second most popululatd country in the world. My point is the more you come in contact with more people, you get more experience of things and you learn more....how to handle in different situations etc

~~[({<RAHUL>})]~~



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