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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 12/05/2006 : 4:58:28 PM
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Although I wish everyone shared the same love for being nude as I and my family do, as long as people are "nude friendly" thats all we can ask.
Jenn
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FireProf
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 Posted - 12/05/2006 : 7:23:28 PM
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That is so true Jenn. I'm not naive, I know there are people out there that think we're nuts, perverts...etc. but never encountered anyone that was nude phobic until I made no bones about who or when I told everyone at work of our nudist lifestyle.
I had a guy on my crew that said "he respected me, loved working with me and would walk through fire for me," until he learned I was a nudist. His attitude then changed and I was referred to, under his breath, as a homosexual, pervert and the like. He even had his wife stop coming and visiting at the fire station, when I was working,....like I was a threat to her.
I literally had to change my daily routine at work because of this guy. He was so worried and uncomfortable with seeing me nude or the thought of seeing me nude that I had to make sure he was done in the locker room, shower area before I went upstairs and got ready for the day. He had some real issues. I guess the stress of my nudity got to him after working with me for four years, he transferred out to another station.
We are still the same great people we are when we are wearing clothes. It's amazing how attitudes change when they find out you hate wearing them!
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pilot
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Posted - 12/06/2006 : 11:25:03 AM
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The confusion is unfortunate and pervasive.
The general public views nudists/naturists as people who can't wait to take their clothes off and expose themselves to others. This is tantamount to exhibitionism, and one can appreciate their discomfort with the idea. After all, none of us really want to be walking down the street and encounter some seedy-looking guy wearing only a trenchcoat...
This is rather different than what (I believe) the general nudist perspective to be. Naturists tend to dislike putting clothes on because they are less comfortable, inefficient, need to be washed,... For naturists, the natural state is the norm and wearing clothes is the aberrant state(except when necessary for protection, warmth,...)
Certainly no rational person would (for example) fight a fire au naturel. (Thank the Lord for DuPont and Nomex(TM) fire retardant garments!) Nor do I think any naturist really wants to make the textile folks uncomfortable. But we need to reset the message. Instead of saying to the textiles "we like doing what you see as taboo", we ought to be saying "our view of what is the normal state and what is the contrived state is simply the mirror image of yours". The difference is subtle, but I think it is important if progress is to be made in educating the textiled public.
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Tuffers
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Posted - 12/06/2006 : 3:43:07 PM
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Hey Fireprof, I bet you are glad that the narrow minded biggot transferred out of your station. How anybody can treat another work colleague so badly beggers belief. My kids, who have grown up now, although not carrying on their naturist upbringing, were taught the value of decency towards others and the acceptance of different lifestyles.
Good luck and keep nude
Mike
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Taxman
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Posted - 12/06/2006 : 3:48:23 PM
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I would whole heartily agree with Jean or allnaturalwife-raise the kids from birth as a naturalist. As any parent can tell you, kids can be so adaptable and quick learners. We have two daughters and unfortunately did not-could not. Now, one is out of college the other in another year or so.
That being said, you need to consider the area where you live. The wife and I both volunteered as leaders or coaches with our daughters various activities when they were less than high school. Had we been open nudist, we would have either been pushed out of the way or endless run ins with various government agencies.
We are in Michigan where they may vote democratic for president but fills its state and city offices with a fair number of right wing republicans. As such, pushing the envelope on this one was not worth it. We would have satisfied ourselves with the kids paying the price in this community.
Besides being a open practicing nudist, there are still a lot one can do as a parent to help the kids to obtain and maintain a healthy attitude about themselves. This can lay the ground work towards being open nudist as the kids get older.
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 12/06/2006 : 4:35:25 PM
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Our family has been lucky to live in a liberal, mostly nudist friendly area. Our daughters have been pretty open throughout their upbringing with their friends regarding nudism. We have gotten countless families to "cross over to our side". We have been lucky enough to have close friends that also raise their children as nudists as well as the nudist families that are members of our club. Our girls have always had nudist friends to play with.
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Ricki00
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Posted - 01/07/2010 : 12:53:07 PM
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Originally posted by allnaturalwife
Good to hear from a nudist family like my own. If you raise your children a "correctly" they will never learn or associate anything negative with nudity and most likely continue as nudists their whole lives.
Jenn
That's what my wife and I are trying to raise that way with both of our daughters.
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 01/07/2010 : 4:49:33 PM
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Form the start is of course ideal..but better late than never works too. Just realize that the longer anyone lives with "misconceptions" of any kind the more difficult it is to "undo" them.
Jenn
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nsgusa
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 8:50:18 PM
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I realize this is an old topic but I 'm responding because I know people new to nudism may read it.
Our two daughters probably remember my wife and I nude more than clothed.
We were nude from the day they were brought home and quite a few visitors for their first years were nude also.
I think they were 8 and 6 when we first took them to a resort and they went with us to them through high school.
I think that because they were used to the lifestyle from birth that we avoided quite a few problems with having to break them in, so to speak, in their preteen or teen years.
The oldest has left the lifestyle, but the younger, now 42, has remained a nudist.
So, in my opinion, being nude with children as early as you can is best.
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nsgusa
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 8:54:01 PM
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Oops, youngest is 40, older daughter is 42.
Blaming my old age, I guess.
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Nudony
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 01:40:32 AM
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I am also one of those people that brought up their kids clothesfree from Day 1. My daughter, along with many other raised-nudist kids, dropped out eventually around age 9-10.
Raising your kids from Day 1 as nudists is the best way to go; but that will not singlehandedly insure your kids will remain nudists their entire lives. There are other factors: such as nudist peers and siblings, parental agreement on nudity and reactions to puberty that will also play an important role.
Where my X and I went wrong is that we weren't consistent in our social or home nudity. Sure, in the early years of our marriage, we were nude at home every day. Just wearing a diaper eventually gave way to wearing nothing, which just sort of flowed naturally since Mom and Dad were already nude themselves. Around age 3 we took our daughter to her first resort outing. By age 4 it was actually hard to keep her clothes on her. By age 5 she was a seasoned social nudist. Then, around 7, she gradually stopped going nude. Social nudity had slowed down due to work constraints, my wife didn't go nude at home much anymore, my daughter didn't really have any good nudist friends she kept track of. It wasn't surprising; we'd failed to be consistent.
Cautionary tale.
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NudeNate
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 3:29:24 PM
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Originally posted by Taxman
I would whole heartily agree with Jean or allnaturalwife-raise the kids from birth as a naturalist. As any parent can tell you, kids can be so adaptable and quick learners. We have two daughters and unfortunately did not-could not. Now, one is out of college the other in another year or so.
That being said, you need to consider the area where you live. The wife and I both volunteered as leaders or coaches with our daughters various activities when they were less than high school. Had we been open nudist, we would have either been pushed out of the way or endless run ins with various government agencies.
We are in Michigan where they may vote democratic for president but fills its state and city offices with a fair number of right wing republicans. As such, pushing the envelope on this one was not worth it. We would have satisfied ourselves with the kids paying the price in this community.
Besides being a open practicing nudist, there are still a lot one can do as a parent to help the kids to obtain and maintain a healthy attitude about themselves. This can lay the ground work towards being open nudist as the kids get older.
I'm a right wing republican and a nudist and I know many other Christian conservatives who are nudists. Nudism isn't a political thing
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sailawaybob
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 12:56:20 AM
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my kids became nudist when the were 1 and 3 yoa and continued to enjoy the nudist lifestyle even after my first wife and i divorced but when they reached the teen years they stopped going and like most of there nudist friends at camp they all found different interest, yes a few continued to come but it best to start them young because most but not all will be off doing other things. i have also talked to parents who became nudist when their kids were older 10 and up and some were ok with it but not common.
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Warmskin
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Posted - 04/20/2012 : 6:43:10 PM
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Bob, it's too bad that teenagers fall off the wagon, so to speak, when it comes to staying with nudism. I guess they want to wander off in their own directions. Teen years don't seem to mix well with nudism. Seems they go through a Puritanical age or something. Of course, they are highly subject to peer pressure and conformity among themselves. I can hear them saying in their own jargon - Nudism is so not cool.
As one guy said -- Give all teenages all the freedom they want, and they'll end up imitating each other, until their freedoms are essentially gone. Also, I don't see the teen years as a laid back time of life. I think being in a relaxed frame of mind helps one be a nudist. Little children are naturally better than teens at being nudists. They are more simple people, and enjoy the feeling of being nude - no complications enter their little minds.
Perhaps as teens find their mates later on in life, they might go back to being nudists, if their spouses/S.O.s are agreeble to it. Maybe it's the lack of teenagers at a nudist resort that discourages teens from going to them. Hard to meet potential boy/girl friends there.
“I rise early almost every morning and sit in my chamber, without any clothes whatever, half an hour or an hour, according to the season, either reading or writing.”
Ben Franklin
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sailawaybob
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Posted - 04/21/2012 : 11:39:09 PM
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it will be interest to see if later in life they do, they are both in their 20's and are busy with other interest. if I was a betting person maybe the oldest would but probably not the youngest.
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