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nudeisntlewd
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 Posted - 01/19/2007 : 03:13:15 AM
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I contend that clothes are sexier than nudity. Not just sensual clothes. There are lots of intriguing things other than anatomical parts. Like how you present and carry yourself. It's how you wear them and how they fit some things and hide others. It’s always easier to project confidence with dress and style than by showing your love handles – unless you’re the 1-in-a-million perfect.
What do you all think?
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vealj
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 Posted - 01/19/2007 : 12:30:11 PM
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I agree completely. Clothing is what creates the mystery and allure. What's under those togs? Of course I like see-through stuff too on certain women 
Take care and ...
Keep it Bare !!!
- veal
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 01/19/2007 : 3:05:33 PM
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I totally disagree. speaking for myself and my husband here..we both think complete nudity is the sexiest and most attracitve on everyone. My husband would rather see me completely nude than in any sort of "sexy get-up". Not sure if I have mentioned it before, but in my opinion lingere and costumes have no place in a nudist environment. It will always amaze me how many nudists are so "into" wearing some sort of lingere . I guess there are many different "types" of nudists as there are anyone else. To me and most of our friends its actually about being NAKED, NOT wearing anything..means not wearing anything.
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HG8Harrier
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Posted - 01/19/2007 : 9:57:49 PM
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Thought I'd chip in...
As a guy in his early twenties, I've seen some gawdy get-up worn by guys and gals that just want attention... Nudity is natural, handsome, and wholesome. I'd rather concern myself what's in somebody's body (their heart, conscience or mind) and how they treat their body (nutrition and exercise) than worry about that with which they adorn their body.
Mens sana en corpore sano. Healthy mind in a healthy body. Doesn't matter if they're clothed or not.
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 01/19/2007 : 10:08:41 PM
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Originally posted by allnaturalwife
…Not sure if I have mentioned it before, but in my opinion lingere and costumes have no place in a nudist environment…To me and most of our friends its actually about being NAKED, NOT wearing anything..means not wearing anything.
Jennifer
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I agree with most of what you say. I thought it was apparent, but my intent for this thread wasn’t to promote lingerie or costumes. My idea here is to make the point to non-nudists and visitors that real nudists aren’t running around in some sort of sex-crazed frenzy because we’re nude. We don’t dress to titillate. Look around on the street and at the mall and see how many do. We undress for comfort, relaxation, and apparently as you suggest, some perhaps do to view beauty. I do not equate beuaty with sex appeal.
I think he body is beautiful and perfect in many different forms. Clothing can be showy.
“What spirit is so empty and blind, that it cannot recognize the fact that the foot is more noble than the shoe, and skin more beautiful that the garment with which it is clothed?”
Michelangelo
"Do you not see that, among human beauties, it is a very beautiful face
and not rich ornaments that stop passers-by? ... Do you not see
beautiful young people diminish their excellence with excessive
ornamentation?"
- - Leonardo da Vinci
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StuffedTiger
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Posted - 01/20/2007 : 02:08:08 AM
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Clothing, when worn, becomes a costume, and all costumes frame perception. Intentional or not, the wearer places that perception between themselves and others. For example, militaries, police and sports teams all choose costumes carefully to create important perceptions both of the wearer and within the wearers themselves and for the rigors of their duty. This is generally to the good IMHO.
I enjoy all kinds of costumes. They help me do my job better at work and help me support affinity groups (such as a T-shirt for a good cause). I enjoy going out in different styles and fashions. From what I see, other nudists enjoy creating an image for themselves just as much as myself or anyone else. Nudists also have additional choices, such as body painting and body art, that have a rich human heritage beyond face and nail cosmetics.
Putting on clothes gives us a fatter outline and does not look natural for the way we move, regardless of our size and shape. That is why not only models but most women in America and many elsewhere think they look fat. They do look fat - in clothes. Costuming adds ten to fifty pounds to the appearance. Our brains are built to appreciate the natural human in all our sizes and shapes as we move, not as we vogue. As natural human beings (nude), even the obese among us look graceful, and those with a little fat look healthy, women in particular.
Unfortunately, there is a really dark side of costuming. That is when a bunch of bullies steps in to use costuming to take away our freedoms. Religious bullies are well known in that regard; the Taliban being a good example. Fascists are also well known in that regard. Fascists find the mandating of costuming to be an effective way to turn people into unthinking, uncaring mobs.
For example, the fascist State Senator Gary Cades (R-West Chester) exploited a disturbed mother and innocent child to feast his insatiable maw on another of our freedoms in the Great State of Ohio this past December. He found a way to twist the sight of a man with a mental illness into the equivalent of torture and rape, and use that against our nudist mothers and children to force them into his sick vision of the human body. If that is the best he can do, every person of character who cares about freedom needs to stand against him.
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CalTom
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Posted - 01/20/2007 : 09:48:41 AM
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Believe it or not it's Gasparilla season again, and whether or not you are caught up in the legend of mythical pirate Jose Gaspar, much of Tampa Bay will be using the Tampa Tribune created holiday to either toss beads, imbibe, or in the case of nudist resorts, anything else remotely associated with pirates and wenches that can be legally entertaining. Captain Morgan & the Morganettes will take time off from selling insurance and pole dancing to don costumes seldom seen during the days of true Caribbean pillaging and plundering. On Saturday night the wenches will line the stage in their plastic surgery enhanced finest to be judged by the applauding audience of appreciative males full of rum.
This is a crowd that probably never read Jonathan Edwards Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God and if they did tossed the sermon into the trash. Ogling wenches is far more fun than repenting any day and for the nudist resorts, more lucrative as well.
I was amazed how expensive it is to dress as a wench these days. When my wife handed me the bill, I first concluded she had made one of her periodic raids on Nordstroms. Some of the items she purchased likely never saw the rocking deck of a pirate ship or the fury of 18th century maritime combat- high heel pumps?!
So tonight at a nudist resort near you be forewarned, there will be sexy pirates in various stages of undress. Aarg! Ahoy Matey!! 
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asmodee
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Posted - 01/20/2007 : 11:07:16 AM
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Personally, I think the right type of clothing presents a more alluring look because that's what it was designed for. It can show your good features and hide your bad features. Tell me, have you ever gone to the store and seen something you just HAD to have, but once you got home and got it out of the wrapper, it was no longer interesting? I have stated before that clothing is often used to hide who we truly are. If you are an ugly person (metaphorically speaking), making you attractive is what most clothing is designed for.
As for my preference, I would LOVE it if my wife ran around naked all the time. That would be my preference, if the choice were mine to make. But, once in a while I like to see her put on something sensual and walk in the room, but that might just be because I love her and I love being with her and I know what she's up to when she does it ;-)
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wcstflyer
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Posted - 01/20/2007 : 3:53:50 PM
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Originally posted by - -Tom
Believe it or not it's Gasparilla season again, and whether or not you are caught up in the legend of mythical pirate Jose Gaspar, much of Tampa Bay will be using the Tampa Tribune created holiday to either toss beads, imbibe, or in the case of nudist resorts, anything else remotely associated with pirates and wenches that can be legally entertaining. Captain Morgan & the Morganettes will take time off from selling insurance and pole dancing to don costumes seldom seen during the days of true Caribbean pillaging and plundering. On Saturday night the wenches will line the stage in their plastic surgery enhanced finest to be judged by the applauding audience of appreciative males full of rum.
This is a crowd that probably never read Jonathan Edwards Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God and if they did tossed the sermon into the trash. Ogling wenches is far more fun than repenting any day and for the nudist resorts, more lucrative as well.
I was amazed how expensive it is to dress as a wench these days. When my wife handed me the bill, I first concluded she had made one of her periodic raids on Nordstroms. Some of the items she purchased likely never saw the rocking deck of a pirate ship or the fury of 18th century maritime combat- high heel pumps?!
So tonight at a nudist resort near you be forewarned, there will be sexy pirates in various stages of undress. Aarg! Ahoy Matey!!
I find your post both on target and hilarious. Our nudist resort is holding a similar theme tonight and next week.
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NakedAmbition
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Posted - 01/22/2007 : 10:25:45 AM
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Jennifer's post is interesting. Many nudists think lingerie and other sexy get-ups have no place at a nudist resort because sexiness has no place at a nudist resort. But Jennifer is against the sexy get-ups not because they're sexy, but because she feels actually being nude is much sexier than all the sheer costumes and other accessories. For what it's worth, I'm with her: there's definitely a sexy and fun aspect to nudism, and it's an aspect that doesn't need any help from all the costumes.
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 01/22/2007 : 1:32:25 PM
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In reference to clothing/lingere/ANY PEICE of material whatsoever....I just have one more comment. When my husband and I are watching a movie, and a "sex scene" comes on.. and a woman walks into the room wearing thigh-highs, garterbelt, a lace bra, feather thong, and so on..the first thing my husband says is this: "If you did that, Jenn..I would politely ask you to go over the the chair in the corner, and take all of ALL of that crap..so it would not get in my way"... And I agree with him on that.:) Both he and I follow that basic rule with clothes in general regarding what is sexy.
Jennifer
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sydneysmoothie
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Posted - 01/23/2007 : 4:24:40 PM
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People in relationships can make up their own minds as to what form they find more appealing for each other.
Sadly the majority of people in both Australia and the United States..(I include the USA as the majority of forum users are from there)
are either overweight or obese, and however you might like to dress it up, neither clothed or nude is going to make someone look their best in such a state.
Many people don't even realise that they are indeed overweight. Athletic, lean and toned is the only way to go.
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 01/23/2007 : 4:51:02 PM
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That is a personnal interpretation sydneesmoothie. YOUR idea of what body type is sexy and attractive is not the same as someone elses. If you are attracted to skinny women, thats fine..but many other men like a more rubenesque, curvy figure. And society's idea of overweight is COMPLETELY INCORRECT. That is why so many people have eating disorders and are "diet-a holics" Personnally, I would rather NOT be one of those who is on a "diet" their entire lives attepting to reach some ridiculous standard that really, doesnt even look very appealing at all. Women are supposed to be curvy and have as my daughter puts it.."a little junk in the trunk".
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sydneysmoothie
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Posted - 01/23/2007 : 5:34:59 PM
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Hi allnaturalwife,
Some people, mainly young women I understand, do indeed have eating disorders, but the majority of people eat far too much, with little or no exercise to compensate.
Eat more kilojoules than you burn and mass goes up, Eat less kilojoules than you burn and mass goes down, it is as simple as that.
I exercise a lot, being a competitive cyclist I ride on average 20,000km per year, that is around 2 to 2.5hrs per day, and I eat a lot of food.
If I reduce my exercise, then I will reduce my intake, as I have no desire to become unhealthy.
I am 179cm, lean and athletic, very toned and just 69kg, and well in my 40s. I am very proud of my achievemnts!
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allnaturalwife
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Posted - 01/23/2007 : 5:50:23 PM
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That is very nice for you sydnee..BUT you must realize that many people are not attracted to certain body types. To say that a certain body type is more attractive than another one, maybe true FOR YOU..but for others it is not.. Many people are not into the athletic type, many are. And just to play "devils advocate" many people are not interested in spending 2 hours a day running, or cycling...myself included. So that is good that you are a "health nut" but many of us are not..and live quite happy lives. I say, you should do what makes you happy. And I have found a wonderfull husband and have a very fulfilling life, enjoying food and going out to retraunts. From the few posts here..I would assume that I would be ovwerweight in YOUR OPINION...and believe me when I tell you..I get far more attention than the "stick figure" women that society and the media "thinks" are what women are supposed to look like.
I DO NOT care to gt into a debate on what is or isnt attractive here. Two different personnal preferences have been laid out here..and that is that. But I would venture to say that there are more people than you might think, who find a curvy woman more attractive than a skinny one.
Jennifer
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 01/23/2007 : 6:37:52 PM
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My intentions with this thread were to pose an idea and get people expressing different views. I guess I succeeded. Hope it doesn't become a can of worms. 
Just trying to illustrate that nudity, while encouraged during sex, does not mean sex and sex alone.
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