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VinceM
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 Posted - 07/09/2007 : 03:12:09 AM
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First off I want to thank everyone who has welcomed us in the "Introduce yourself" thread and e-mails.
As i've said in my that post, I have been a nudist myself since I was a teen, but after haveing a family I wasn't sure I could do it with out daughter around. Well with everthing I have read here I found out its OK so last Monday we all got nude at home. Out Daughter was a bit suprised I guess since she told me to get dressed, but me and mommy explined theat this is OK at home and its should be no big deal, after that she joined us and everyday since then, we all go nude whenever we can.
You may think this is great, which it is, but alos it has gotten me over a phobeia of being nude in front of my daughter. I've explined that there is a good way to be naked and a bad. And of course as a rule, if mommy isn't home or taken a nap, we get dressed then, since I'm sure alot of nudist parents may know, not everyone in the textile world understands.
We've told our daughter about the nudist park near us and she is really excited about going. I'll let everyone know how that goes.
Also I'm sorry if this post seems to go on and on, but I'm just not the best at typing. I tend to ramble.
Vince
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Balto Bob
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 Posted - 07/09/2007 : 09:35:08 AM
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Glad things are going so well. Don't be afraid to be nude alone with your daughter. Once all of you you get used to this it won't be a problem. With luck you will find some little freinds for your daughter. More importantly their parents who can give you some pratical advise.
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 4:02:41 PM
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That's great Vince, and don't let the PC crowd make you fear being a father, naked or otherwise. I hope your trip to the nudist park goes well, I'm sure your daughter will take to it like a duck to water, how old is she by the way, sorry if you've already posted that elsewhere.
Good luck!
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Tuffers
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 4:18:40 PM
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Here Here Pete. Just go for it Vince and enjoy every moment of your venture together. You don't say how old your daughter is but I am sure she will enjoy the freedom of being without clothes in the company of other children or teenagers of her own age. Good luck and enjoy life to the full.
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VinceM
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Posted - 07/10/2007 : 03:22:11 AM
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I have said it before and I don't mind saying it again, My daughter is 6 (proud daddy). Now at home if she sees me nude, she undresses too. So I don't think there will be a problem there. Everyone is right, just like a duck takes to water. I feel I have taken a big step myself in breaking the PC boundreies.
Vince
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 07/10/2007 : 04:57:43 AM
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She readily accepts nudity as normal, as do most children of that age, shame is not something we are born with, it is passed from parents, knowingly or unknowingly. Your daughter will grow up accepting nude recreation as normal, just watch out for the onset of puberty, that's when the body awareness starts, but until then enjoy family nudity and be happy.
Pete Knight
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Cookie
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Posted - 07/10/2007 : 7:37:01 PM
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Vince M:
We were a bit luckier. Our two daughters were raised as nudist, and continue to be nudist.
One daughter is still in College, and one just married a few years ago.
The daughter which is married, she is still able to enjoy nudity since her husband enjoys being in the "buff", and looks forward to coming over to the house and enjoying the pool, and spa. My daughter tells me that they are nude from the time they arrive home from the office, and look forward to the weekends.
The younger daughter can't wait to get home from college, since she can't roam the dorms.
She has a boy friend, and she has told him of our life style, and the first thing he said was,
"My Mom and Dad would never do this!"
But he has been over for cookouts, and to parties we have had, and he is getting into the swing of it. He is 22 years old.
Enjoy, be happy, and just remember, we are not here for a long time, so let's have a good time.
Cookie
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naturallyspeaking
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 04:53:37 AM
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Well, I don't mean to be a party-pooper, but, I have read that some psychologists say that adult nudity can be upsetting to children. I think it is ok for mommy, but the father should probably have a towel for the daughter...just my opinion and I could certainly be wrong, but I don't think i would condone that... ;then again, I'm not an expert on the nudist lifestyle never having been at a public function or nude beach. But one must be careful in what is presented to a young child. I'm certainly not a psychologist but shooting from the hip here...
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Cheri
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 12:38:03 PM
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Originally posted by naturallyspeaking
Well, I don't mean to be a party-pooper, but, I have read that some psychologists say that adult nudity can be upsetting to children. I think it is ok for mommy, but the father should probably have a towel for the daughter...just my opinion and I could certainly be wrong, but I don't think i would condone that... ;then again, I'm not an expert on the nudist lifestyle never having been at a public function or nude beach. But one must be careful in what is presented to a young child. I'm certainly not a psychologist but shooting from the hip here...
Once it becomes a full nudist household, it would be fine according to the various studies done.
There have been a number of studies regarding children & nudism.
Marilyn Story, in the Journal of Psychology, Vol. 118, first Half,
Sept. 1984 "Comparisons of Body Self-Concept between Social Nudists & Nonnudists"
Marilyn Story, in Jour. of Social Psychology, 1979, 108, 49-56 "Factors
Associated w/More Positive Body Self-Concepts in Preschool children"
Robin Lewis & Louis Janda, in The Relationship Between Adult Sexual
Adjustment & Childhood Experiences Regarding Exposure to Nudity,
Sleeping in the Parental Bed, &Parental Attitudes Toward Sexuality, Arch. of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 17, No.4, 1988
Marilyn Story in "A Comparison of Social Nudists & Non-nudists on
Experience w/Various Sexual Outlets" Journ. of Sex Research, Vol. 23, No. 2, pp
197-211, May 1987
Mary S. Calderone, M.D., in "The Family Book About Sexuality," states:
" ... with very young children accustomed from the beginning to nudity in
themselves and their parents, a great deal is taken for granted, and it
doesn't seem to be much of an issue to them. What nudity does is make it
easy for children to become absolutely certain about just how men and
women are made. This knowledge is of great importance in assuring the child of his or her own correct gender. The differences in body states and sizes - and in body organs - can then be taken for granted and will provide an accurate image of how they themselves, or the opposite sex, will look when grown up. Children whose parents feel at ease in such natural events as stepping out of the shower, toweling, and walking back to their room to dress are fortunate."
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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Balto Bob
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 2:22:28 PM
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Thankyou Cheri.
This topic is by far the most important to many of us. There is plenty of bad info out there. We don't need it HERE.
Bob
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 5:04:18 PM
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Originally posted by naturallyspeaking
Well, I don't mean to be a party-pooper, but, I have read that some psychologists say that adult nudity can be upsetting to children. I think it is ok for mommy, but the father should probably have a towel for the daughter...just my opinion and I could certainly be wrong, but I don't think i would condone that... ;then again, I'm not an expert on the nudist lifestyle never having been at a public function or nude beach. But one must be careful in what is presented to a young child. I'm certainly not a psychologist but shooting from the hip here...
The problem with some so called experts is they can colour their 'expert' opinion with their own beliefs brought on them by religion and upbringing. Here in the UK a so called expert had several mothers imprisoned on his advice as the expert for the prosecution, he was later discredited, struck off the medical register and the women released, but he ruined the lives of several families in the process.
If you are going to quote an 'expert' then you should at least be able to provide the source as Cheri did, its not difficult to do a search to find the information.
Anyway, I think countless nudist families will be able to testify the benefits of raising children in the nudist lifestyle, its a shame Jenn isn't still around, she is a shining example of nudist upbringing.
Pete Knight
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bornnude
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Posted - 07/16/2007 : 11:21:08 PM
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If you explore a site like NationMaster, statistically, the United States, which has what could be called a prudish view toward nudity, the results are somewhat surprising. The logic would suggest that the sexual activity among teens would be lower if we suppress nudity. The United States ranks #1 (higher incidence) in Teen Birth Rate, as well as the Per Capita Teen Pregnancy, #9 in Rapes per Capita.
At the same time, the nations in Europe that we consider liberal when it comes to nudity, France, Sweeden, etc. end up quite a bit further down the list.
A healthy attitude towards the body is probably only part of the equation but it is definitely part of the equation.
The disclaimer? I have heard it said that there are liars, damn liars and statisticians. To a point, you can make statistics tell just the story you want.
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VinceM
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Posted - 07/18/2007 : 01:52:41 AM
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Wow, I never ment for this to become a polital disscussion and or a issiue about morals. Before I decited to bring thef amily into this I did do some reading about this, I felt good about what i read and I think and agree that in the long run it could beifit my daugher's growth. My mother use to talk about when she was a child she you go in the bathroom wiht her father while he showered after work, not to look or anything eles, it was just to spend time with him. She is now very well adjusted and has no problems or ever had any problems.
We went to our first nudist park last weeked, our daughter did't seemed "shocked" affarid, or question anything on anyone. As a matter of fact she was the first on to get undressed . We didn't make her do that. She played, swam,played so more, ate, played with the dogs,etc and it seemed as if she as oblivouse of the fact everyone there was nude.
So basicly, The studies I have read are right, now its up to the indival on wheather or not they want to belive it, But for me this works. My mother never hide her nakeness from me when she would get out of the bath, and I don't see anything wrong now.
Vince
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 07/18/2007 : 04:03:49 AM
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Hi Vince
Don't worry about the thread drift and meaningful debates, it always happens!
Congratulations for a successful day out, glad you enjoyed it, and know you KNOW and can quote with authority that children really don't see shame in nudity, it is misguided adults who are shameful, so next time you hear someone say "Not in front of the children" you'll be able to tell them straight.
Pete Knight
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naturallyspeaking
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Posted - 07/18/2007 : 05:43:47 AM
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Well, I'm here to learn... I think this whole subject is fascinating-- Many of our views about this originate in childhood, which might explain the social phobia against nudity and the distortion and exploitation of it. I think I need some nudist therapy, but noone will join me...
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 07/18/2007 : 06:52:09 AM
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Well, I'm here to learn... I think this whole subject is fascinating-- Many of our views about this originate in childhood, which might explain the social phobia against nudity and the distortion and exploitation of it. I think I need some nudist therapy, but noone will join me...
As I pointed out to you before, children are born without shame, it is there adult that influences their upbringing that instils shame in them, adults are shamed by pious control freaks.
Vince's daughter is doing what children are good at, enjoying herself, don't let anyone rob your child of its innocence before he/she has had time to enjoy childhood.
Pete Knight
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