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Natural1000
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 Posted - 02/28/2008 : 8:34:37 PM
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What role do you think religion plays in nudism either for or against? I was first introduced to the joys of nudism by a church affiliated organization, the Young Men’s Christian Association (YMCA). Most modern religions in America have not been able to deal with nudism in an adult manner because so many of their followers are so seriously undereducated. They have adopted an attitude that reflects the belief that God cast Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden because they exposed their nakedness rather than because they hid themselves. There is some hope. If you do a Google search under (nudism religion) you will find several positive sites regarding this topic. Unfortunately the really big churches and many of the newer evangelicals have not fully accepted the healthy minds of most nudists and until they do we will have to struggle to be heard.
-How has nudism changed since the early 1930's? From 1930 until around 1970 there were many places in America where one could practice nudism without causing any kind of ruckess. As we continue to overpopulate this land it is becoming increaingly difficult toi practice nudism without “offending” some poor misguided individual who has been taught by their church to hate their own naked bodies and the nakedness of others. Unless we beging to educate our children t help them understand that the body is not inherently evil this issue will remain.
-Where do you think the "nudist movement" is headed? In the next 5, 20 years? I don’t really know.
-How do political elections affect nudism? Very little.
-Do you feel it is harder to be a nudist now than in the past and is it harder to become one in America rather than in Europe where it is more relaxed? Yes it is harder today in America than in Europe.
Now go take a skinny dip in a friendly swimming pool. :)
Take Care
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mdwinnie
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Posted - 02/29/2008 : 01:44:41 AM
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My first experience was by accident. My oldest son as a toddler had sensativity issues and would always take all his clothes off when he would get sandy. Once he was 3, many other families became upset of this and I did not like the way they looked at him. I was talking to a nurse about it at the hospital where I worked and she suggested a local family oriented CO beach. I went there and met so many nice families that I invited friends from our church and neighborhood and now we all hang out there and build sand castles and play in the water. It just seems stupid to wear a wet suit at this point. It is otherwise not really an issue and after 20 min the first time you go you do not even notice any more except it feels nice no to wear sandy wet clothes Shocker.
As far as kids, I feel American have really messed up when it came to sexualizing children.
In safe optional environments children will prefer to have no suits and not wear clothes, it has been amazing to watch. My kids pick their friends based on how they make them feel inside not if they are a boy or girl. They have no curiosity about body issues at all which allows them huge benefits in a media driven distortional society.
I have no regrets. I think it is important not to make things secrets or weird. Its just one more activity we enjoy as a family and nothing more. Kind of boring, but that is the point
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traisjames
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Posted - 02/29/2008 : 09:15:11 AM
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every once in a while I come across a story on how a family got started with nudism and most of them are the same, but this is one of the warm, fuzzy ones that I like to hear about. Thanks for another good one mdwinnie. 
From the guy with his eye on the sky
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Cheri
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Posted - 02/29/2008 : 1:03:44 PM
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What role do you think religion plays in nudism either for or against?
It has no bearing either for or against for the individual IMHO. My rabbi knows of my nudist lifestlye. I am a nudist as I live my life, and I am Jewish as I live my life.
-How has nudism changed since the early 1930's?
It's become more upscale and sometimes those in Marketing forget about the Mom & Pop nudist parks as well as nonlanded clubs. Nudism is more visible to the general public especially since the internet exploded.
-Where do you think the "nudist movement" is headed? In the next 5, 20 years? I hope it continues and will grow.
-How do political elections affect nudism? If a candidate is against our bill of rights and possibly some amendments or against some personal freedom, you might want to consider a different candidate. It's not so much elections that may affect nudism, it's usually the public land officers who do rotate or a local sheriff trying to exert authority that isn't really there.
-Do you feel it is harder to be a nudist now than in the past and is it harder to become one in America rather than in Europe where it is more relaxed? It's becoming easier in some locales, more difficult in others depending on the current legislators and such. That's one reason to donate and be part of or donate to the Naturist Action Committee as well as the Government Affairs programs in the US.
Cheri
Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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jim19452
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Posted - 02/29/2008 : 4:48:53 PM
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-What role do you think religion plays in nudism either for or against?
I believe organized religion – on balance – suppresses naturism and unorganized religion – on balance – encourages naturism. Nudism, God and Nature define naturism.
-How has nudism changed since the early 1930's?
I heard innuendos in the late 30s and early 40s about skinny dipping and frolicking nude afterwards but all seemed to be about very small groups. Most came from women.
-Where do you think the "nudist movement" is headed? In the next 5, 20 years?
Not sure. To a considerable extent special interest groups run this country at every level. The ‘for the children’ groups have much more money than nudist groups and some of these groups have succeeded in linking nudity to sexual abuse of children. Freedom of speech is ending. The same fate awaits outdoor and social nudism. I hope I am wrong.
-How do political elections affect nudism?
With many exceptions, politicians have one and only one important goal – their re:election and the power, wealth and corruption that goes with holding office. The Clintons are poster models for this evil. Nudists organizations can’t out bribe the special interest groups so we lose. If George Soros would fund the nudist groups with ½ billion dollars we would win.
-Do you feel it is harder to be a nudist now than in the past and is it harder to become one in America rather than in Europe where it is more relaxed?
No, easier now than in the past. Technology and the Internet have changed or exposed behavior. Bit hard to be prudish when an English firm releases a study claiming pornography accounts for 20% of all computer usage at work. Or when National Geographic airs video of South American tribes living naked. I support this. I saw many naked men, women and children in the NG magazine during the forties.
Parts of Europe seem to be much freer (e.g., Spain, England, Germany, France) other parts seem about the same as the USA.
Best Wishes, Jim
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jrnielso
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Posted - 03/03/2008 : 11:12:58 PM
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Quick question.
Would you prefer to be called nudists or naturists? What is the difference if there is one?
and yes doing this research has had me interested personally
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jim19452
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 08:04:24 AM
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I bundle naturism with outdoor nudity and indoor nudity with nudity.
Best Wishes, Jim
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 12:31:07 PM
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jrnielso, There is already a topic with this discussion.
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jrnielso
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Posted - 03/25/2008 : 02:27:16 AM
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oh ty sorry for that ... by the way sorry for the wait but im posting the first essay later today ty again so much :)
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traisjames
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Posted - 03/25/2008 : 2:04:45 PM
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jrnielso, There is already a topic with this discussion.
What topic is that? I would like to read that one too.
From the guy with his eye on the sky
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catbird
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Posted - 03/25/2008 : 3:03:28 PM
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jrnielso, There is already a topic with this discussion.
What topic is that? I would like to read that one too.
From the guy with his eye on the sky
Near the top of this web page is the word "Search." To find the answer, click the word "search" and then enter the words "nudism" and "naturism."
BTW, before starting a new thread, we all ought to check the search command to find out whether your question has already been answered.
Naturally, Catbird
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nude1va
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Posted - 03/29/2008 : 8:43:10 PM
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-As a kid I always enjoyed being nude around the house. My first experience with social nudism was when I was 28.
-I enjoyed the feeling and convenience of swimming and tanning in the nude.
-A co-worker and I were riding past a nudist resort and we started talking. He went to a couple nudist places years ago in MS. We started looking around and found a non-landed club in our area and started attending some events.
-I think the easiest is the internet. Find a place near you and call the resort and ask questions. Some resorts have open houses.
-Only a select few know.
-There were no a lot of changes. Nudism is not for everyone but once you try most fall all the way.
-What you see in the media is not nudism. If being naked is sexy and provocative it is not nudism.
-No I do not live in a nudist resort. I am married with kids and I’m the only nudist in the house. I am naked around the house and visit resorts a few times a year.
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-I would have no problem with them joining or not. It would have to be their decision.
-Try be naked around your house by yourself then, go to an open house and give it a try.
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Rodders
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Posted - 03/30/2008 : 07:59:52 AM
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- I suppose I first really became a conscious nudist at about the age of fifteen. I'd been lucky to live in a home where nudity was pretty normal although my parents were not nudists as such.
- I decided that being a lone nudist was alright, a little like playing solitaire but as with most activities it is more fun in the long run to have company.
- Nudism in England was a pretty well known about when I was fifteen & thought of being as eccentric by some, healthy & wholesome by some and a whole lot found it amusing and finally, a very few thought it immoral. Newspapers featured articles on nudism and in the 1960s there were quite a few television programmes & movies made here. Around that time I heard about a local nudist club and beach a very short distance from home.
- We have the internet and any simple search will lead you to all manner of sites devoted to nudist clubs and events. Many clubs here have open days, swimming sessions are advertised in the naturist press and are only a ‘phone call away. If you lived here, as a student, most clubs would be happy to discuss nudism with you as part of your studies. Forgive my ignorance of the U.S. club scene but probably if you approached a club you may well find they would be delighted to answer your questions about their activities and approach to the lifestyle.
- The reaction to my being a nudist has been pretty positive. Of course, this is to my face, so it could be that some find my love of being naked strange, odd or whatever. However, over the years I’ve “converted” a few people who now would hate to wear anything to swim or sunbathe. Many of our friends and family members say they would never go nude in public but nobody yet in my circle of friends & family have been hostile to my nudism.
- My life changed as my nudism became more practiced. A whole new social circle of friends opened up but I still kept the non nudist friends too. I think that non nudists are missing out on a really comfortable practise of living but, as a member of a minority interest / lifestyle group I’m more than aware that most of the population would never go nude on a beach or even “give it a try” in their back yards. Many couples are split and it tends to be the case that the “would be nudist” has to stay dressed when he or she would prefer the freedom of total nudity. I feel really sorry for them and do know people in this situation.
- The Media. Well television adverts over here are featuring more and more nudity in a pretty positive way, if a little cautiously. Travel features in the press mention naturism more now than before and mass nude photo shoots by celebrity photographers are regarded as not being all that weird. Sorry, but I watch MTV very little but the odd bit of nudity I’ve seen there seems very much sex lead & a bit tacky. No problem with sex & nudity (it’s wonderful) but nudism is something different. I feel that music videos including nudity could work very well but they have to be very well made to pass muster.
- I do not live in a “nudist colony” or club but my wife & I are members of two local nudist clubs. We go nude as and when we want to around the house and also in the garden (back yard) and at the other homes of friends. Every year we take nudist vacations to other parts of Europe and Caribbean. Not made it to the States yet but would love to sometime.
- There really are very few negative things about being a nudist, especially if one is open about it. Secrecy is a burden we can do without. Of course, our vacation options are restricted, by choice to places where nudity is normal or practised widely. The positive sides of being a nudist are many. We don’t need to hide our bodies behind towels and all parts of the body are just that, parts of the body. Obvious I suppose but a hard concept for a non nudist to grasp if, even the exposed female nipple is thought of as being “naughty”. I am by nature quite a shy & private person but
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Rodders
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Posted - 03/31/2008 : 03:36:26 AM
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What role do you think religion plays in nudism either for or against?
We have a vicar in our club and, in the past a Priest from Ireland used to take his summer vacation there. A lot of the club members attend church. I have heard that some Catholic schools used to make girls take baths in shift like garments, the parts of the body having to be washed through or under them. These days I don't really think the the current Christian view of nudity is that radical.
Rod
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catbird
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Posted - 03/31/2008 : 12:17:10 PM
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What role do you think religion plays in nudism either for or against?
We have a vicar in our club and, in the past a Priest from Ireland used to take his summer vacation there. A lot of the club members attend church. I have heard that some Catholic schools used to make girls take baths in shift like garments, the parts of the body having to be washed through or under them. These days I don't really think the the current Christian view of nudity is that radical.
Rod
Nudity and Christianity is a topic in itself. Some nudists feel they are quite compatible; however generally speaking Christians are anti-nudists. Fundamentalists are against and even mainline Christians (ie, Methodists, Presbyterians, and Lutherans) are against. The Bible is not really against nudism. I myself have felt very close to God while nude. The sun and breeze on my bare skin can help me appreciate God's creation.
At Gunnison Beach, I once observed that a nude woman was wearing a cross pendant hanging from her neck. I commented to her that it is interesting that a nudist is wearing a cross. She told me which church she worships at, and that church is one of the biggest Fundamentalist churches in Northern New Jersey (Hawthorne Chapel). She apparently desires to advertise her Christiandom even at a nude beach.
Naturally, Catbird
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