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Pete Knight
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Posted - 07/24/2007 : 1:14:02 PM
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Cheri
Your friend may have been judging it by different standards, when he said "The sex was in plain sight" was he talking about penetrative sex, or people wearing fetish clothing, this happens mostly in the evenings in the restaurant area, and actual sex does occur on the beaches, but it is sectioned off much like nudist beach is separate to a textile beach, if you don't want to see it you stay away from those sections. As I said, a friend takes his family there every year, and his wife would NOT allow them to go if the children were likely to encounter anything untoward.
Read some of the beach threads, there is always someone who writes about the 'activities in the dunes' then you get a reply from another who says they have been going to that beach for years and have seen nothing like that.
Cap d'Adge is a big place there is something for everyone, its just a lot more liberal than America!!!
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kedward
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Posted - 07/24/2007 : 2:21:53 PM
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I will be going there in about another week, August 4th, I have been going yearly for the last few years. Yes the sex is out there and in plain sight. The posters the clubs are not family friendly, although many families are there. I usually stay at Hotel Eden and have enjoyed that area. The farther end of the beach, near the life guards is usually where you find the sexual activity. This is not just one couple doing something, it's many time amny couples together with everyone around them watching. It really depends on what you want out of your time there. Obviously you can't be prudish to go there as you will see things you don't normally see at local CO resorts.
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CalTom
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Posted - 07/25/2007 : 6:01:11 PM
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Some folks from California who just retuned from Cap d' Agde made the stunning revelation that the U.S. dollar has sunken to historically low levels vs. the Euro; they were further mortified by the bank exchange rate in Port Ambonne. Bill said if he had known he would have exchanged more at the American Express office stateside. He warned any Americans to stay away if possible from the banks in the Quarter Naturiste.
There is some truth to Cheri's post. The attire de rigueur during the evening runs to the studded dog collars and skin tight leather pants ("hey there Klaus, Petra...great dungeon attire!") In the opinion of our friends the restaurants run from acceptable-but-expensive (out by the L' Glamour nightclub) to noisy and tacky. We got the feeling this couple was expecting a conventional looking resort, albeit nude, and what they found was a quirky looking collection of housing structures. Karen thought the term "shopping mall" which she read on the web was an overstatement of the little stores inside Heliopolis. Certainly the place was built 40 years ago and could use some sprucing up.
Bill said the ratio of men to women was about 15 or more to 1. Large numbers of gays roam the beach and outside Port Nature during the evening. Children and families go to the beach and for the most part disappear after dark. This is much as we recall.
I thought I'd post this as a couples impression of their first visit to Cap d' Agde.
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TomC
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Posted - 08/16/2007 : 4:20:21 PM
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I just returned from three days at Cap d'Agde at the end of July, 2007, and thought that you might enjoy a full report. (Caution: this report is quite explicit, so that you can evaluate my interpretation what I saw.) My general observations are in line with other postings here: the place is huge, but not very attractive because of the massive apartment complexes, parking lots, and hodge-podge commercial developments; the beach is nevertheless striking because of the sheer number of nudists -- there must have been several thousand on the beach when I was there; the mix of visitors is very diverse, with everyone from families to young couples to single males to older folks; and the range of nudist styles is very wide, from standard non-sexual family naturism to very public sexual behavior. Whatever you want, it's all here.
I spent most of my time at Le Galion beach club, where you can rent a lounge chair and umbrella for 12 euros single, 22 euros couple. A very comfy way to enjoy the beach, with a good restaurant, shower, bathroom, and paperback lending library, all without clothes. I happened to be assigned to a chair near a group of very attractive French couples in their 30's, who managed to appear stylish in their jewelry, piercings and high heels even without any clothes. Although they spoke mostly in French, I was able to tell that these were part of the "libertine" segment of the Cap, who spend their evenings in sexually oriented couples clubs like Le Glamour and Tantra. But apart from some non-sexual hugging and kissing, they were conventionally behaved at the beach club, which also hosted families and non-swinger couples.
I walked up the beach a ways, though, to the "adult" section just beyond where the security police hang out. This was a different scene entirely. Particularly on Saturday afternoon, there was lots of sexual activity on the beach and in the water here -- everything from gentle stroking and kissing to oral sex to one case of full-out intercourse, right on the beach in full view of hundreds of couples. One guy eating an ice-cream bar applied it repeatedly between his girlfriend's legs and then licked her clean, with both of them laughing hysterically. This couple was not more than ten feet from the edge of the water, where a steady stream of nude couples walked by and stopped to take in the scene. Out in the water, many couples waded around in knee-deep water with the woman stroking her man to erection and hugging and kissing. Every few minutes, one of the more exhibitionistic couples in the water would advance to oral sex or more, which quickly attracted a crowd of observers; after a few minutes, the show would cease and the watchers would disperse.
At about four in the afternoon, a group of pretty young girls in bikinis and one male drummer from Le Glamour, the largest libertine club in Cap d'Agde, arrived to promote the club's party that evening. They passed out flyers about the club, and there was lots of dancing and yelling and rhythmic drumming to attract attention as the girls slowly shed their bikinis. When the prettiest girl was completely naked, one of the men from the surrounding crowd stepped out, kneeled in front of her, and proceeded to perform oral sex on her while she continued to wiggle and yell and wave her arms. None of this attracted any interest from the police, despite the fact that it was all out in the open. I didn't even go back into the dune areas -- there was enough to see right on the beach, to say the least.
I came away from all this with two reactions. The first is that it would never work in America -- the word about the open public sex would get out, all kinds of wierdos and perverts would invade the beach, the police would be called, and that would be the end of that nude beach. Nudists at places like Haulover in Florida and Gunniston in New Jersey have made a kind of bargain with the authorities: we'll avoid overt sexual behavior in return for your toleration of nudity. There is even an ideology that goes along with this bargain, which holds that nudism per se is not about sex, just about being without unnecessary clothing in a natural environment. I've never believed that, but in a sexually repressive society, that's the only concept under which public nudism can happen at all, and even then it is difficult to pull off, as we all know.
But Cap d'Agde demonstrates that in Europe there is another version of nudism in which sexuality can be freely expressed among consenting adults without any apparent adverse consequences. In a society that is much more tolerant of nudity and sexuality, there is no need to suppress the expression of sexual desire on the beach, or at least on this beach, since everyone there accepts it and enjoys it. On this beach, lots and lots of grown-up people enjoy their sexuality in a playful, affectionate way, and enjoy sharing it with others around them who are similarly engaged. As far as I could tell, no one was actually having an orgasm -- they were just playing with each other to get turned on and enjoy all aspects of their bodies, including their sexual feelings. In other words, they were having a heck of a lot of fun. The sex seemed as natural as the nudity: what could be more natural when you are naked on the beach with your lover than to express your sexual feelings? Why should you not? And who cares who watches? From this perspective, it is the repression of sexual expression and play at a nude beach that is unnatural, not the expression of sex itself. Arguably, the sexual nudism at Cap d'Agde is the natural culmination of a process of liberation that begins with getting rid of unnecessary clothing and ends with getting rid of unnecessary constraints on sexual expression.
Of course, this is what the opponents of nudism believe, that public nudity leads to public sex and therefore should be repressed. We nudists deny it, which is what makes us so uncomfortable with cases like Cap d'Agde. But I sometimes wonder whether we aren't avoiding the real issue, which is the continuing repression of sex in America as a positive aspect of human experience. Sex is still treated here mainly as a serious, potentially dangerous activity that must be "contained" within the bounds of private monogomy. But this isn't the only way to regard it, as the Cap d'Agde phenomenon so vividly demonstrates. I suspect that nudism in America will continue to languish until we revive the movement to liberate sex that was last seen in the 1960's. As long as sex is repressed, public nudity will be repressed as well.
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Tim
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Posted - 08/16/2007 : 6:14:02 PM
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The more of this sex trash that gets published here, the more naturism will be opposed. It has nothing to do with this overt sexuality.
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AJ0127
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Posted - 08/20/2007 : 9:44:51 PM
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My wife and I are planning a trip to the south of France next year to celebrate my upcoming retirement. However, with the reports about Cap d"Agde being turned into a swingers paradise, we may look for other nude beaches to visit. Although I am willing to tolerate the sexual choices that others make, I would like some assurance that I won't be confronted with this behaviour every day on the beach. Are there still areas of the naturist quarter that are family friendly? As well, are there social venues within the naturist quarter which cater to non-swingers? If the answer is no to both questions, we will give the place a pass and move on to something more traditional.
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TomC
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Posted - 08/20/2007 : 10:45:54 PM
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The sexual activity at Cap d'Agde happens at the "adult beach" and inside the swinger's clubs. If you want a standard, non-sexual nude vacation, like most people there, it's easy to have -- just stick to the very long beach that runs in front of the built-up area of the resort and some distance beyond, and stay out of the swinger's clubs, whose signs make it clear what goes on there. As for night life, there are a number of restaurants and a few bars that are just normal places, and in fact, in the evening there is very little nudity anywhere in the Quartier Naturiste. You'll be aware that the resort has a sexual side because of how some people dress (some have rather prominent genital piercings and jewelry, and some wear revealing leather and/or lace outfits), especially in the evening. And there are posters here and there advertising the "libertine" clubs. But if you ignore that stuff, as the majority of people there do, then it is not a problem at all.
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Tim
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Posted - 08/21/2007 : 03:22:23 AM
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Thanks to TomC for putting this in better perspective.
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AJ0127
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Posted - 08/21/2007 : 4:49:30 PM
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Thanks TomC.
We are in the planning stage for our vacation. Your information comes in very handy. Other concerns like whether the accomodations are clean, etc. still remain. We are planning to rent an apartment for two weeks or so and then just visit other areas in southern and south-western France afterwards. If you happen to know of any rental apartment which is well maintained in terms of cleanliness I would really appreciate hearing from you.
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 08/21/2007 : 5:01:12 PM
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David and Anne James have a good reputation, you can book direct with them, saves on the travel consultants fees.
http://www.capdagde.co.uk/
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CalTom
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Posted - 08/25/2007 : 12:52:54 PM
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TomC, that is among the most articulate and accurate trip reports on Cap d' Agde I've read-thank you. My wife and I also like Le Galion, a collection of lounging areas at the foot of Heliopolis with yellow parasols and a restaurant area above. The husband/wife that own the place renovated the restaurant (moved furniture) around 2004 it make it somewhat more wind resistant, but we fondly remember the umbrellas flying each time a wind gust over 15 knots blew through. When we were last there he was dealing with a crisis in a refrigerator; warm Perrier!
Tom, I'm glad you had the courage to print some information on an infamous section of Cap d' Agde beach. In truth the place is still living on the reputation it earned around 1992-1994. Back then girls with trays of condoms cheerfully walked among the beach crowd handing them out like candy along with provocative handouts from a local nightclub: Katia et Karin...tres duo est hot! (loosely translated as these babes are hot.) As long as we've been going the flyers remain the same so Katia and Karin must be getting up there in years.
What one has to marvel at is that the Quarter Naturiste, with very little in the way of traditional French Cote d' Azur lifestyle and oppulance, thrives from year to year on the myths and expectations of tourists who flock to the place seeking the very thing that shock and revolt some on this discussion forum. They may have palaces and mansions over in Cap d' Antibes but in good 'ol Cap d' Agde the girl-girl duo of Katia and Karin still pull 'em in by the busload. Never mind that those so-called shopping malls in Heliopolis and Port Ambonne bear little resemblance to a conventional mall along the lines of Mall of America and are more akin to a hodgepodge of small shops and grocery stores; heck it's Cap d' Agde. To lift a famous movie quote: "Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore."
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wrlenterprise
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Posted - 08/27/2007 : 7:17:34 PM
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Hello, I just returned from South of France last week and stopped at a couple of naturiste resorts while there, Cap D'Agde and Leucate Village Naturiste. While we enjoyed both I would say that Leucate was more family orientated while Agde appeared to have more couple or adult oriented feel to it. Only went for the day to Cap D'agde so I can only comment on that while spent 5 days in an apartment at the Village Naturiste. Anyone who want's more info, let me know. PS: I think it's less than 1hr travel time between the 2 resorts.
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AJ0127
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Posted - 08/27/2007 : 8:26:32 PM
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Thanks for the information. After considering everything written here as well as what I have seen elsewhere (Castaways Travel, for instance) we have decided to pay day trips to Cap d'Agde and to find accommodations elswhere. We plan to visit a lot of places in France and the focus of our vacation will not be only the beaches. I'll be happy to post a trip report after we return.
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 09/08/2007 : 3:55:16 PM
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I'm sitting here in my RV on a Saturday evening at the Cap d'Adge camp site on the WiFi network available through www.naturist.de, I've been here for nearly a week, here are MY views;
Cap d'Adge is a naturist resort, but other activities are accepted within moderation and confined to certain areas, it is easy to ignore the explicit sexual activity, you just don't go to that part of the beach, this shouldn't be difficult for nudists to accept, we are struggling with prudes to have nude sections accepted!!!
In the evening there is an interesting display of clothing, fish net dresses, leather wear, you name it its there, and great fun it is to watch too! There is NO overt sexual activity in the main resort area, its simply not allowed but the clothing is a different matter.
There are clubs and bars that cater for the erotic, not that I was able to witness myself as I am here as a single guy and these places are for couples only, but the clothes that are worn aren't shocking, more amusing!
During the daytime its normal nudist stuff, shopping, eating, walking the streets and sunbathing all without the aid of cloths (And very nice it is too!), but as has been mentioned, if you walk about 1 Km eastward along the beach you can witness all manner of activities, no holds barred, except in the peak (School holiday.) season when the police patrol the beach to stop the sexual activities.
As a naturist I'm looked on by prudes as deviant, perverted and complaints are made, so why should I get uptight about people who like to go beyond that, I have no problem with swingers and doggers, they have their fun at Cap d'Adge too, but I draw the line at these people trying to use naturism as a cover for their activities. Live and let live is what I say, let those that seek sexual thrills get them at their designated locations, but please don't hijack naturism, be who or what you are, be true to yourself.
The main thing that surprised me was as I watched the crowds that gathered around a couple engaging in some sexual activity was the number of women jostling to get a better view, and the wide variety of people, fat, thin, old and young who were actively involved, it was odd to watch a woman, who could be the lady on the checkout at your local supermarket, giving hand relief to her guy in front of the many people on the beach.
Please don't be put off visiting Cap d'Adge, you really should judge for yourself, its not a seething den of inequity, it is a naturist resort with lots to offer, its like a beach with a nudist section, but the whole place is nude and has a dogging section where (If you go there.) you can see more than nudism.
If thats too much for you I would suggest Vera Playa in Spain, thats where I'm driving to soon.
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DaveI
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 10:08:11 AM
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I was amused to read the various comments about Cap d'Agde. My wife and I have been there on 3 different years (once as visitors, twice as booked holidays) and certainly found it an interesting place (it is amazing to find a complete 'town' with full facilities dedicated to naturism)! I saw little evidence of blatent sexual activity, although I did come across a crowd splitting up after what might have been some 'event'. It is true to say there was a strong gay section in a particular area of the beach (and behind in the bushes !). The most eye catching thing on the beach was the major piercings that some people had subjected themselves to. Yes, in the evening, there were some astounding sights to be seen around some of the clubs ! It is true to say that my wife did introduce me to some intimacy in the sea, but I know it was done in such a way that it would not offend the casual viewer.
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