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Kimberly
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 Posted - 04/20/2004 : 04:22:52 AM
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Pretty good idea David, your never in doubt that way.
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nudeboy
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 Posted - 04/28/2004 : 10:30:50 AM
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I think its ok to take a camera to a nudist beach to photograph family and friends.As far as possible i would try to avoid having other people in the background, incase they got offended being included in a photo.Having said this I would get out of the way if i saw people taking pictures and I did not want to appear in them.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 05/01/2004 : 07:21:16 AM
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Nudeboy I just witnessed that this week. A guy was taking pictures of his wife/girl friend, and also snapping pictures of other women. He was asked to leave by some angry husbands/boy friends! 
Kim =^.^=
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papman
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Posted - 05/11/2004 : 4:29:06 PM
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Let me please pose to all of you some questions:
1)Is somebody allowed to take pictures in a public place or not? He is. Since a nude beach is a public place, why not there?
2)Is it true or not that if we had to get everyone's permission, photojournalism couldn't exist? Have you ever thought that photojournalism, and photography in general, may have a tremendous sociological value being a mirror for human actions.
3)What does nudism mean? Isn't it an effort of the person to get rid of beliefs that used to hinder a complete body approach. Beliefs that divided the human body into moral and immoral zones. If so, why should a nudist be afraid of being photographed? Is he representing something wrong?
4)How many "yes" will somebody listen asking dressed people for taking their photos in a street or in a square? More than in a nude beach? I doubt it. So why taking photos in a nude beach should be a special issue?
5)Is it taking photos that matters or the purpose of the photographer and the way he uses them? Am I given the right to protect myself legally in any case I think that I am harmed?
Is he humiliating me by publishing my photos in a porn site? Since I am not doing sth wrong, no. He rather reveals his inability to distinguish between two different conditions. Having this way of thinking he could have also published a baby's bath photos.
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 05/12/2004 : 04:04:00 AM
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Papman,
You are absolutely correct on all points.
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bornnude
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Posted - 05/12/2004 : 07:12:19 AM
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But while correct, it should be polite to ask permission on a nude beach, especially if your intent is to post on the internet.
Professional photographers are required to get release forms signed if they make money from them.
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spottedpony
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Posted - 06/29/2004 : 12:15:22 PM
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Originally posted by bornnude
Professional photographers are required to get release forms signed if they make money from them.
While im not advocating indiscriminate use of cameras in any situation, to expand on this, release's are required, legally, by any photographer (excluding bonafide news coverage for valid newsworthy coverage, ie: a disaster of some sort) if an image is to be used publicly for any reason. This includes photo contests, art for sale, or any other public use, and is not limited to nude photos, but those of any recognizable person. And permission of use may be unlimited, or limited to specific circumstances, thus negating the right of exibition in some venues. This only applies to recognisable individuals though, so for example if someone is so far in the background of an image, or a party is shown "headless" and has no distinguishing features. to make them recognisable, then the photographer is free to use an image in any way he or she deems acceptable. Thus the only time one has legal recourse is the use of photos that one can be recognised, and has not given permission for use, via a signed release.
As a long time nudist, and photographer, i carry camera gear with me the majority of the time, and in some cases, (and the issue of "indiscriminate" use not withstanding) where the security of my equipment is in question, i may be carrying my camera bag only because it may not be safe if locked up in my auto. i cant begin to count the number of photo opportunities ive missed in the past, because i was concerned for the safety of my equipment and thus left it at home or locked up in a motel safe.
While i do think use of cameras in any nude or other people oriented venue should only be done in good taste and with permission of any person photographed, unfortunately this isnt always the case, but the above information hopefully will be of help
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HeathernJohn
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Posted - 10/20/2004 : 05:04:25 AM
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Many of us enjoy taking and keeping photographs of ourselves, partners and friends both nude and clothed. Personally we enjoy being photographed, and so long as the photogrpher asks, the answer is almost always yes! We have posted pictures on the web and shared them with friends and so far have had no adverse reactions. Perhaps the more difficult question is when the photographs do "too far". The limits are different for everyone - what about smoothies? What about piercings? What about tats?
I guess it all depends on the person being photographed, the person taking the picture and the audience! Explains why tolerance of others is so important in a peaceful world!
Cheers
John
Long term married, Long term nudist, Smooth, workaholic couple
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JoMulholland
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Posted - 11/08/2004 : 7:10:35 PM
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It certainly took some of the shine off the Annual Samurai Nude Beach Carnivals that we have held these last few years, here in New South Wales, Australia. Walking the thin line between understanding that on this public beach it was / is legal to take photos and accepting that some (tasteful) pictures were needed as souvenirs of a good time and as publicity for the next year and....watching the fellows sitting on the sand dunes (some dressed the whole day), with long lenses, taking pictures and not joining in the spirit of things at all....was difficult, to say the least.
Jo
P.S., I just got ready to upload pictures of the picture-takers, who stood and sat on the dunes but changed my mind. Not sure if it's safe. :-) :-(
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chic
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Posted - 11/09/2004 : 3:36:01 PM
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JoMulholland,
Welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear those people took the carefree fun out of your day.
Chic
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FireProf
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 Posted - 11/09/2004 : 4:23:46 PM
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We take a camera everywhere we go on vacation. And since we go to nudist places when we vacation the camera also is there.
We are very cautious about who and what is in the frame when we take pictures of each other. If others are around we ask them to take our picture or let them know that we are taking the picture and they will not be in it.
I can understand what Kimberly was saying about the guys getting upset with someone taking pictures without our permission and yes, it is a public beach and you are not breaking the law but there is common decency and respect and with the internet being what it is, many would be nudist be they male or female may be turned away from this lifestyle if their picture wound up on a porn site by some voyuer.
I think that's what many newbies and wouldbe's fear about visiting a nude beach. This is usually a first step for many women wanting to try nudism for the first time. We should be aware and protect these unsuspecting newbie's and wantabe's from the voyuers while also being open to those nudists who want to take pictures of each other for personal use.
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JoMulholland
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Posted - 11/09/2004 : 4:32:50 PM
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Thank you, Chic. Just to make it clear(er): The River Island resort people organised the theme and the activities, each year. We (mainly Bob Reed and I), the executive committee of the Free Beach Association, looked after most of the publicity and organising the people needed to support the carnival.
The days themselves were mainly fun, especially the warm, sunny ones.
Problem was that the people attending, expected the organisers (us) to do something about these picture-takers. We couldn't because Samurai is a public beach.
So, while there were lots and lots of happy people, there were also complaints that dampened the satisfaction a bit. - enough to be yet another reason not to go on keeping the FBAofNSW alive.
On the 20th November, there will be NO official carnival but many regular attenders of these carnivals have decided to come anyway and just meet and have a picnic. No prizes, no official competitions, etc.. Bob and friends will be going and they are hoping to eally relax and enjoy the day, without worrying whether costs are covered and whether there are people sitting on the hillside with cameras.
http://freebeach.com.au/SamCarn.html
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JoMulholland
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Posted - 11/09/2004 : 10:26:34 PM
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These things always seem to happen! Just after writing here how we cannot stop people from taking pictures on a public beach, it was Bob Reed who just rang me to tell me about the following report, in the Daily Telegraph:
Sands of crime in the frame
By CHARLES MIRANDA November 10, 2004
A COOGEE Beach local has become the first person in the state to be charged with using his mobile telephone to secretly take photographs of fellow beachgoers.
The 25-year-old was arrested by police on Saturday after trawling along the beach taking photographs of women sunbathing topless.
He was initially grabbed by beachgoers after they noticed him walking between the towels pretending to be on the phone but snapping images instead.
Only last week council beach inspectors said they would be cracking down this summer on anyone taking unauthorised pictures on the beach.
The man was charged late on Saturday evening with offensive behaviour in a public place and is believed to be the first in the state charged for using a mobile telephone camera.
He is due to appear in Waverley Local Court in two weeks.
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I wonder how quickly the police would come down to Cobblers or Obelisk Beach, if there was someone doing this? Coogee Beach is one of our main ocean beaches, here in Sydney. Cobblers and Obelisk are little, hidden, nude beaches, on Middle Head, in Sydney Harbour.
Jo
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FireProf
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Posted - 11/09/2004 : 10:55:22 PM
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JO,
This could be a mark in the "Win" column for us nudists. Wonder when something like that might happen here in the US.
We seem to have a very good relationship with the park rangers at our nude beach and if the need arose, we could get them to throw some voyuer off the beach. Usually it's handled with some of the members of the nudist beach group or a few regulars.
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chic
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Posted - 11/10/2004 : 5:07:21 PM
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Jo,
Sounds like a partial win at least for us nudists.
Chic
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