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raldren
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 09:13:18 AM
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is'nt sex a very natural part of life? a temporary state of arousal means you're alive. Advantage women
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Tweety
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 09:59:04 AM
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I have saw very few erections in our nude life style. Most often a male sleeping by the pool. I never felt threatened, until one day I was sitting by the pool reading and a man kept floating by with what I thought was a very notiable erection. I finally turned my back to the pool. The mans wife had noticed my discomfort and came over and told me that it was ok . The husband had had a penile implant and it was always that way. So folks the moral of the story things are not always what they seem.
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irishred
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 Posted - 01/16/2004 : 10:49:58 AM
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Tweety, interesting story about the penile implant. You are correct;things are not always as they seem.
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Tweety
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 11:32:40 AM
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Really made me re-think alot of first impressions.
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sweep
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 12:09:53 PM
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So I think what we're really saying is that it's an American Intolerance or embarrassment issue.
It seems that the new kids on the block are trying to re-write the rules for the rest of the world.
AGAIN!!
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cheef
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 1:18:29 PM
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Originally posted by hillbilly
Cheef just what is "rude" about a man's erection.
Two things:
1) It is, admittedly, a cultural convention. What is rude about passing gas when you stand next to someone? How about giving them the finger? What about using certain words to refer to their ethnic or racial background? All of these things are cultural conventions... that fact doesn't make them any less rude.
And, yes, they may have some element to them which isn't merely a cultural convention. However, the same is true of erections.
2) There are people who have asked politely that it not be done. In particular, this group includes women who are newcomers to naturism. Saying, "I'll walk around with my erection if I want to, and if you can't handle it I don't care" is a great way to chase them away. In my book, that's rude.
[On a side note, the guy with the penile implant is a special case, which is informative but not of import to this particular discussion]
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melissastarr
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 1:37:17 PM
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Some people commented on the previous page that women don't feel safe when a man has an erection because an erection can be used as a weapon. This is true. A woman generally does not use hardened nipples to hurt someone... I don't think this is even physically possible. On the other hand, an erect penis can and has been used to hurt women. That is why we feel uncomfortable with erect penises in the open.
Melissa
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Revilo42
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 3:30:33 PM
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It is, admittedly, a cultural convention. What is rude about passing gas when you stand next to someone?
This is probably the least cultural convention, as it is physically unpleasant to the recipient.
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How about giving them the finger?
This one is culture-specific, and is generally recognised to be a digital representation of Male Arousal. The presentation is what makes it differ from the subject at hand - it's equivalent to agressively strutting.
At least one culture doesn't use the gesture - the British use two fingers (index and center) in a reversed form of the "V for Victory" salute.
Although there are various sexually-oriented explanations, it actually dates back to medieval wars with the French. The English archers were consistently the winning factor in many battles, so the French made it know that whenever they captured any archers they would amputate their draw-string fingers and free them, giving the English useless wounded men to look after instead of prisoners for the French to worry about. Henceforth, any time the French were routed, the archers would wave two fingers at them to show they were still there.
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What about using certain words to refer to their ethnic or racial background?
Words obviously have cultural context. In Jamaica, the term "whitey" has no overtones, but this is the exception, rather than the rule for slang ethnic terms.
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All of these things are cultural conventions... that fact doesn't make them any less rude.
All of these things tend to be identifiable as rude by context and presentation - shouting and waving a clenched fist quickly gives a clue to someone of another culture. In this case, I guess the common expression "Watch where you point that thing" applies.
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"I'll walk around with my erection if I want to, and if you can't handle it I don't care"
Handling it should certainly not be required ;-)
Cheers!
David
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Revilo42
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 3:31:26 PM
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Wow! I got myself a star!
Cheers!
David
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cheef
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 5:35:59 PM
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Originally posted by Revilo42
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It is, admittedly, a cultural convention. What is rude about passing gas when you stand next to someone?
This is probably the least cultural convention, as it is physically unpleasant to the recipient.
But why is it physically unpleasant?
I think there is probably some sociobiological element to it... that excrement is unhealthy and therefore it's better to be offended by the smell.
However, I think the majority of it is cultural. There are children in third-world slums where the streets are sewers, and they don't notice the stench.
Similarly, I know some people whose body stench makes me want to run away. However, it doesn't seem to bother them or their family at all. Once again, a strong cultural element.
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 11:37:21 PM
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Sprinkled here and there amoung these pages, I've seen the erection referred to as
"sexually offensive behavior."
I agree that sometimes it may be a behavior, but more often than not it can't be classifed as
"behavior", but rather a natural response to some sort of physical or emotional stimuli.
Just having one occur is not necessarily a behavior. Unless you are doing something
with it or "showing it off", it isn't behavior and I resent the inference that it is.
Randy
P.S. I still agree that in America not covering up is impolite, but nothing more. It isn't bad or evil.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 01/17/2004 : 01:15:11 AM
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I agree with you Randy, your precise and to the point.
Kim =^.^=
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Tweety
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Posted - 01/17/2004 : 09:16:10 AM
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Cheef it is very much to the point of this conversation. Should this man walk around with a towel around his waist for fear of being percieved as being rude or a threat? I also feel terrible that this woman felt she had to explain to me about her husband. Or should we just understand that not all things are as they seem. Randy has a very good point about covering up. But I stress the fact that it is not always nessecary as there are often reasons other then sexual that erections occur.
Tweety
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irishred
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Posted - 01/17/2004 : 09:29:58 AM
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David, I never knew that is where the origin of "giving the finger" comes from. I had no idea it started with the Brits and their archers. You learn something new everyday!
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