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Kimberly
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 Posted - 11/16/2003 : 01:36:02 AM
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In the divorces its usually the kids that suffer for the parents mistakes. Its sounds like you really love your daughter Bare in the desert, hope that relationship will last.
Kim =^.^=
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calmnude
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Posted - 11/16/2003 : 1:17:58 PM
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bare,
only time will tell. you sound like a good guy who loves her, she'll hopefully join in with us you when she can.
just have to be patient, best of luck
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Bare in the Desert
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Posted - 11/16/2003 : 3:22:23 PM
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Thanks for the compliments guys. She means the world to me.
I will let her make the decision to be an active nudist when she is old enough.
I did speak to her mom about nudism briefly the other day again and she really doesnt agree with it. Funny thing is, one of the reasons she left was to become a stripper. :)
Dare to be Bare
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Fred3
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Posted - 11/16/2003 : 8:27:12 PM
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Bare, you may have just hit upon a big reason she doesn't agree with nudism for your daughter. The fact that she became a stripper, could it be that she hasn't differentiated between nudism and sexual nudity? Just a thought..
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Bare in the Desert
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Posted - 11/17/2003 : 01:55:15 AM
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Your are 100% correct. Nudity and sex go hand and hand in her eyes. Im glad she wants to protect her daughter so I will not dispute that. I just cant get her to see that nudity does not always equal sex.
Dare to be Bare
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Kimberly
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Posted - 11/17/2003 : 01:56:15 AM
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Bare in the Desert;
I can see why now your ex wife disagrees with your daughter being wxposed to nudity. Your ex wife sees nudism in a different light now. Instead of enjoying the freedom of relaxing and being nude, she is exposing her body to men for money. Maybe she has low self esteem and has some guilt about doing this, and is afraid her daughter will take the same path.
Kim =^.^=
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Bare in the Desert
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Posted - 11/17/2003 : 02:40:10 AM
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Kimberly,
My ex is very ok with our daughter making the choice to strip when she is old enough. I most definitely am not!!! Your right about the self-esteem. She has always had a self image problem but is also very attention hungry. We all know the benefits of being a nudist, especially starting at a young age. I can only hope that with the values I raise her in and the nudist environment will help my daughter travel the right path and make the right decision about things like this when the time comes.
Dare to be Bare
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Kimberly
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Posted - 11/18/2003 : 04:30:42 AM
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Bare in the Desert;
I hope your positive influence ends up with your daughter. Your daughter would be much better off enjoy nudism than stripping in some club.
Kim =^.^=
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Spontanudity
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Posted - 11/18/2003 : 05:36:40 AM
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Kim,
I think its a big leap saying that a stripper can't be a naturist. Isn't casting a massive judgement on a stripper?
Cheers,
Spontanudity
"Forever Naked"
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Kimberly
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Posted - 11/18/2003 : 07:10:02 AM
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My understanding is she left nudism to be a stripper.
Kim =^.^=
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Spontanudity
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Posted - 11/18/2003 : 07:24:57 AM
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So it is possible to go back to the darkside? Would you argue that she was never really a "true" naturist in the first place?
Cheers,
Spontanudity
"Forever Naked"
http://groups.msn.com/YoungSydneyNaturists
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Kimberly
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Posted - 11/18/2003 : 07:30:54 AM
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Not saying that at all. In fact I know a stripper, fake boobs and all, that goes to the nude beach to get her all over tan. Was just refering to Bare in the Desert's statement that she left nudism to be a stripper. From my assumption and I could be wrong, Bare in the Desrt will have to answer this, she wasn't happy with just being a nudist.
Kim =^.^=
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Spontanudity
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Posted - 11/18/2003 : 07:36:33 AM
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Sorry Kim,
The question was kind of aimed at Bare, but I was interested in what you thought about it. I'm curious about what her attitudes were to prior to stripping.
Cheers,
Spontanudity
"Forever Naked"
http://groups.msn.com/YoungSydneyNaturists
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Bare in the Desert
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Posted - 11/18/2003 : 12:26:35 PM
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I appologize. I explained that poorly. My ex was never a nudist, I meant she left our family for several reasons, one was to become a stripper When we were married neither of us were but I wanted to be for a long time. I tried to get her to go to a resort or just out in the back yard but she was just not comfortable with it. The irony was that after all that she became a stripper.
I did not agree with her stripping because your basically teasing men into giving you money with you body in a sexual manner. We did not divorce just because of her career choice, there were many other factors along with that.
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NUDKIWI
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Posted - 11/18/2003 : 1:46:53 PM
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Sounds like your ex is very mixed up,it's o.k to strip to give men pleasure but it's not o.k to strip,as a nudist,to obtain pleasure for yourself.However having said that the fact she is a stripper may make it easier for you to sway her your way.Being a stripper she must be comfortable with her naked body,and as any first time nudist knows this is one of the biggest hurdles when taking the initial leap,maybe some encouragement from someone other than yourself could tilt her toward our way of thinking,do you have any mutual friends who are nudists?or ask her to check out a site like this one so she can see that a naked body doesnt necessarily mean sex.She may be against the nudism thing for the mere fact that you are so for it.
Naturally KIWI
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