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Bare in the Desert
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Posted - 11/18/2003 :  5:51:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
She as since quit the stripper business because she didnt make much money at it.

She is half way there though. Her boyfriend is the one that wont let my daughter be naked at their house, not her. So she is ok with my daughter being nude there and here indoors. She just doesnt agree with me being nude in by daughters presents and she is definitely not ok with her being nude outside.

My ex also feels that our daughter should only be nude behind closed doors after around 6-7 years old.

My plan is to discuss it with her a little bit at a time. I think I might be able to convince her of the benefits of nudism for my daughter Im hoping for a compromise by not taking her to any nudist resorts or functions until she is old, just family functions and around the house and she (my ex) will try to be more open minded and loose the sex fedish.



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calmnude
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Posted - 11/18/2003 :  6:24:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
good luck . looks like there is hope for a breakthrough here.

just going to have to be patient. but i think you are on the right track. best wishes to you all.



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Kimberly
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Posted - 11/19/2003 :  01:30:05 AM  Show Profile  Send Kimberly a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Bare in the Desert;

I agree with Calmnude, you are just going to have to at it slow and easy, and talk it through with your ex. The only draw back to making your daughter only be nude behind closed doors is she make get the impression that being nude is wrong. Anyway, good luck to you both.

Kim =^.^=



Edited by - Kimberly on 11/19/2003 01:30:53 AM

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Bare in the Desert
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Posted - 11/19/2003 :  04:31:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's my argument. I want her to be proud of herself and not feel like she needs to hide physically or emotionally. If she is forced to give up nudism at 7 or 8 I feel it will be harmful. If she gives it up on her own then so be it.

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Kimberly
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Posted - 11/19/2003 :  05:01:30 AM  Show Profile  Send Kimberly a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
If the poor girl gets mixed signals then she is going to be more confused than ever. As a lot of people in here have stated they became nudists in their teens being nude at home. As long as she knows she has that option and understands that nudity is not wrong, then hopefully when she is able to make her own desions she will feel comfortable being a nudist.

Kim =^.^=



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Spontanudity
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Posted - 11/19/2003 :  05:12:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit Spontanudity's Homepage  Click to see Spontanudity's MSN Messenger address  Send Spontanudity a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Kims right it must be difficult for her to understand the mixed signals. To be honest its difficult keeping up with your views, your ex's and her boyfriend... Let alone her own (developing) feelings towards it.

Cheers,
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Kimberly
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Posted - 11/19/2003 :  05:25:23 AM  Show Profile  Send Kimberly a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
It sounds like the EX's boy friend is the one throwing the monkey wrench into things. Looks like he playing in the power struggle.

Kim =^.^=



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Spontanudity
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Posted - 11/19/2003 :  06:11:12 AM  Show Profile  Visit Spontanudity's Homepage  Click to see Spontanudity's MSN Messenger address  Send Spontanudity a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I really feel for bare's daughter it must be incredibly difficult for her... Not just deciding about naturism and nudity but I'm guessing many other aspects of her life. Saying all that, it sounds like shes got a great father that loves and supports her. Cheers Bare!

Cheers,
Spontanudity

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Bare in the Desert
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Posted - 11/19/2003 :  9:36:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks sponta.
My daughter lives at at my house and visits every other weekend at her mothers place so it will be more consistant than not for her. She is a very outgoing person and has a strong personality. She loves to be nude and doesnt give it a second thought and thats the way it should be. She is understanding the differences between households already. Its like not being able to sit out front nude but playing out back nude is ok.

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Bare in the Desert
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Posted - 11/19/2003 :  10:00:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spontanudity

Kims right it must be difficult for her to understand the mixed signals. To be honest its difficult keeping up with your views, your ex's and her boyfriend... Let alone her own (developing) feelings towards it.

Cheers,
Spontanudity

"Forever Naked"
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Yea it is confusing. My ex is on the fence and leaning toward against because she is letting her boyfriends conservative views become an influence.

Another influence is custody. She gave up custody and now wants. Its not for money, I did not ask for child support, its because she looks like a bad mother to her friends. She made some bad choices and now wants it all back and whether she is for or against nudism she my try to use it against me in court if she decide she has a case to get custody back. So Im trying to keep it a very light subject and take it one small step at a time to keep her from raising a stink.

In the meantime I will let my daughter be herself at my home. And my girlfriend and I are looking to buy a house together so we will be transition the two nudist families into one here very soon.



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Kimberly
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Posted - 11/19/2003 :  11:54:12 PM  Show Profile  Send Kimberly a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
That sounds like a good plan Bare in the Desert. The courts are not going to think of her as being a good mother because she is a stripper. The courts may also frown on you being a nudist. But as long as you can show stability, which is what you are saying, you should be fine. I think you are wise in just letting your daughter be nude at home. When she becomes of age she will make the choice for her self.

Kim =^.^=



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Bare in the Desert
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Posted - 11/20/2003 :  11:53:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Kim.

So what was this thread about again? Oh yea transition into nudism.

My girlfriend is transitioning her daughter back into nudism slowly and we were thinking of getting our two families together here soon just to see how it goes. (The families are me and my daughter and her and her daughter) We've only been nudists with our own kids and vise-versa so this will be new. Anyone have any advise on how to make this go smoothly?

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Cheri
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Posted - 11/20/2003 :  11:58:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bare, Just think that everything will go smoothly, and it most likely will. Have favorite foods around so that things are familiar to everyone. I wish you well.

Hugs, Cheri

Doing what I can to positively promote nudism
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Bare in the Desert
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Posted - 11/20/2003 :  12:08:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Cheri, your probably right. I think Im the only one thats nervous, Im the only guy so Im different than what my girlfriend's daughter has seen and hope thats not an issue. Also, she's 10 and I dont have much experience with that age yet, mine is only 4.

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Atlantise
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Posted - 11/20/2003 :  12:19:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit Atlantise's Homepage  Send Atlantise an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I read somewhere that Jack Nickleson is a socially nudist. I can't imagine what that would be like! He was quoted as saying that he did it in order to be less sensitive about his appearance or something. It is an interesting concept that being more nude would make you LESS sensitive <g>.


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