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Pete Knight
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 Posted - 03/28/2006 : 07:41:03 AM
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OK, here is my opinion, for what its worth!
Nude photo's of people doing regular daily tasks, sunbathing, playing sports, etc are fine by me, but I draw the line at shots designed to show of the genital area.
I'm a member of a forum that allows posting of personal photo's to a gallery, and some are beyond acceptable. The obvious ones are the men whith legs apart, just penis, or a body shot without the head in frame, not what naturism is about as far as I'm concerned.
I'm a naturist because I like to feel sun and air on my body, not because I want to show my body to anyone, or indeed to see others naked, so why would I want to see someones genitals "center stage" as it were.
I use a forum www.inthebuff.co.uk which has some decent people on, but the moderators allow far too much freedom for my liking, and if anything puts me off using it, that will. At least they remove the photos showing erections, but I would have banned the poster if I was the moderator.
If you take a look, you will notice that my photo does not appear, I will however, share my pictures with friends, new and old.
Pete Knght
Even a prude
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later
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Posted - 03/28/2006 : 12:04:19 PM
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We have hundreds of nude photos and CD's with photos and some video. All are of nude people, friends, us, or people who allowed us to take their pictures. None are pornographic, in our believe. They show no sex acts, none are sexual or erotic poses. Their nude people enjoying life and nudity. Could others call these pictures porn, sure. Porns in the eye of the beholder and their morale compass. The nude human body is a beautiful thing. If people think a nude male or female laying in a lawn chair or walking in the woods is porn, that's their problem . I choose to see the beauty of it. If the sight of the simple nude body makes anyone think porn, you have to wonder about what's going on in their head. Maybe us and people in general should be less frightened of us nudists and more worried about people who think like this.
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stefanog65
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Posted - 04/07/2006 : 6:13:16 PM
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I think photos of women in any position would seem to be fine. I were interpret the photos to be in sexual in context, if it was obvious you were touching oneself in an obvious masturbatory way. Also if there is penetration of intended penetration of something. I think women by themselves can have pics taken of them just about anyway. As for men, same applies except they erection causes issues with most women and to a lessor with men. Men can get erections for all sorts of reasons. I think with men laying down, sitting down, or knealing the erection is less obtrusive to certain eyes and should matter in the non sexual setting. Standing up would depend on the intent of the pose. And not to forget that some men are proud of the size of their organ as women are proud of the size of the breasts. So a man standing with an erection (non sexual) seems perfectly reasonable by human nature and the curiousity of others to see a body. And especially for other men, who inherently want to compare visually.
Lastly, many men in their "soft' flacid state hang long. That is to say they hang the same length (ie 8 or 10 inches) flacid than they do when they are fully hard and erect. As for those men. many times at nudist resorts do I observe very intolerant conservative older nudists complain that this or that man is laying around with an erection and not covering it. Pictures of those men also would seem like they have an erection and pictures shouldnt be taken. I disagree.
Women have it so much easier to have a photo taken of them naked than a man.
The bottom line "By human nature, what do we think about or are curious to see"
Thats my 2 cents.
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CMx2
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Posted - 04/23/2006 : 5:59:28 PM
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Originally posted by Admin
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Originally posted by smendes
... they masturbate to orgasm... It could be successfully argued that none of this is "PORN"... since it is merely a visual documentation of the biological functioning of the sexual system of a particular individual at a certain point in their lives... Where is the "porn" aspect in this innocent photo shoot?
I don't buy this argument at all. Since when is photographing young people masturbating "innocent"?
Anyone indicating possession of such photo sets in this forum will be regarded with the greatest suspicion. Photo peddlers are not allowed here, as well as those that 'sound' like photo peddlers. Sorry, we don't play that game.
Smendes, keep in mind that you are speaking to an American audience primarily, and their values are often drastically different than those of your continent. Also, your posts profile you as a photographer with an abundance of custom nude photography, perhaps willing to share. Since I cannot monitor whether you are staying within the laws of the countries involved, I cannot allow you to use this forum to promote your photography, since you have made it clear much of it includes "innocent" portrayals of what many would consider the worst kind of pornography, even possibly including the "adolescent boy".
I am locking your ability to post until this matter is resolved. Email me and explain your position if you disagree.
I'm very thankful that the Admin stepped in here.
Its attitudes like this that make my wife and I very nervous about the "Nudist Community".
Its unfortunate that some people seem to agree with this point of view. It does the nudist community a dis-service that a 5 second search on Google of the word "Nudism" will link you to dozens of websights trying to sell you pictures of naked adolesents.
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comanche
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Posted - 04/25/2006 : 06:53:06 AM
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The issue of photos and the lengthy discussion seems a bit ridiculous. What is the purpose of a photo? To retain a memory of someone or an event. Nothing more, nothing less. It is the use of that memory that dictates whether a photo is porn or otherwise. Each person determines the catagory of the photo. Anytime a photo is taken the subject needs to know it can be used for whatever the recipient chooses. If you are comfortable with the use then nothing else matters. The definition is immaterial.
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Duncanude
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Posted - 04/25/2006 : 12:49:05 PM
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Comanche, that is a great opinion. I agree with you 100%. Porn is so subjective and depends on the viewers comfort level. Once their comfort zone has surpassed the threshold then one may consider some form of nudity to be pornographic. Nudity is natural, so let it be.
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GeeWilly
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Posted - 04/25/2006 : 2:24:28 PM
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It does not seem unnatural to make a record of a fun occasion you have shared with others by taking a photograph of the participants. But can't it can be apparent that one is nude without having to exhibit "private parts"?
The naturist resorts I am aware of do not permit photos without knowledge and consent. It seems a good rule if only to protect folks who could be held up to ridicule if their naked likeness appeared in public. I think nudists should honor the privacy of their friends in such matters whether requested or not.
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 04/26/2006 : 06:20:13 AM
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No harm in photo's at all, but good taste should prevail surely?
Is this a tasteful naturist photo?
Or this?
Or this?
And all of these are to be found on a "naturist" web site, at least this forum has better taste.
Pete
Even a prude
has to be nude
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Since posting this the site in question has either removed the photo's, or relocated them.
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JustJim
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Posted - 04/26/2006 : 08:39:27 AM
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Obviously the photos Pete Knight has located on a nudist site (all 3 of them designed to prominently "display" a man's genitalia..one photo semi erect, another with the man fondling himself, and the third one with a cock-ring) are NOT pictures that depict "nudism" as it's intended in family and casual social nudity settings.
Actually the "definition" of acceptable nude photos is well defined (in my opinion) by the guideline on this site regarding Avatars... "the photo shouldn't present the genitals more prominently than the face or rest of the photo"..... so in other words, "Don't be lewd, just be nude".
All nude people aren't nudists, all nudists aren't crude.... but there are some of each and that blurs the line and hurts our cause if you're a "purist" ... The general public already has such a misguided, salacious, and sordid opinion of what nudism is.. and that is what makes the ability to create nudist venues (beaches, clubs, facilities) so difficult.
JustJim
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Pete Knight
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Posted - 04/26/2006 : 11:07:32 AM
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I'm glad that someone agrees with me on this one, I have been trying to have a line drawn, but the sites owner is allowing it to police itself. I hasten to add that not all the profile pictures are as blatent as those, but I feel that these profile pictures have overstepped the mark a great deal, and this is only a selection.
I believe that naturism is for families, and any element that takes it away from families should fall into another classification, e.g. Exhibitionism, Voyuerism, Swinging, Dogging, all of which have a sexual element to them.
I'm very concerned that naturism is being hijacked by those only interested in a sexual thrill, and I'l do my utmost to prevent that.
Pete Knight
Even a prude
has to be nude
........sometime!!
Since posting this the site in question has either removed the photo's, or relocated them.
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Cookie
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Posted - 04/26/2006 : 8:18:40 PM
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Well here we are in sunny Palm Springs, and the weather could not be any better!!!!
I know when we have our parties with our group we always take pictures, and nobody shys away from having their picture taken. These are memories that we will look back at for years to come.
Whether we are in the pool, or sitting around enjoying a cocktail, or around the grille enjoying each others company, we know that we are all enjoying the great time that we are having.
There is no jealously whether someone maybe with someonelses spouse, boyfriend, girlfriend, or friend.
We just enjoy the moment in time, and look forward to more great memories.
As the Summer months approach, we will have a Mem. Day Cookout, July 4th Bash, We will make something up for August, and then there is Labor Day, and how fast the Summer flew by.
In October, we will have a great beer feast, and Halloween Party, costumes are optional. The week before Thanksgiving, we will celebrate Thanksgiviing with a big dinner.
Early December, we will have our annual Xmas Party, and needless to say New Years Eve is an evening that is never forgotten.
So, in short we enjoy all the photos we take and share them among the group.
Palm Springs is fantastic, and have met some great people.
Talk to everyone later.
Cookie
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stuckintahoe
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Posted - 07/29/2006 : 12:13:06 AM
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There seems to be a fine line between nudity and porn in this world today. I don't know where to draw that line myself. I take pictures of my friends in the nude. They on the other hand take them of me. There is no sexual content to them. There are a few suggestive one's taken, but all in fun.
Porn on the other had would be if it was for real. No fun, no love, just lust. That's my opinion.
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WYLDE1975
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Posted - 08/01/2006 : 11:18:54 PM
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nop....for me it not porn it art...porn is when somebody is being picture wile doing something sexual...being pictured nude while doing nothing it beautiful
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Rodders
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Posted - 08/02/2006 : 06:05:56 AM
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I take many photographs. It's my hobby and some have been published in the naturist press here. I take all manner of things but nudes are just that, a picture of a friend or friends or just people who want their pictures taken. The result is all important and my aim is to make my subjects look good. Porn? I don't think that any part of the body is pornographic but it is the way it's presented that makes the diffrence. Certainly pictures of people in thongs are not anything to do with nudism. Soft porn on the othrer hand is well covered by magazines available at your local store. I suspect we all know the difference between titillation, porn and a good picture of a nude person enjoying the sun etc.
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JustJim
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Posted - 08/02/2006 : 08:01:34 AM
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Recently when attending the AANR East event at White Tail Resort in VA, I thought they handled the "photography" situation extremely well. Because there was going to be some photographs taken during the week by AANR photographers and possibly some other media folks, each nudist was given the choice of wearing one of 3 different colored "lanyards" (necklace, if you will). The RED one (which was automatically given to all children as well) meant NO PHOTO'S allowed. The YELLOW one meant "YES, BUT ASK FIRST", and the GREEN one meant "FIRE AWAY, I DONT CARE".
This way, everyone felt very comfortable knowing their personal wishes and preferences would be maintained and respected.
JustJim
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