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funwithme03
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Posted - 10/17/2005 : 02:28:51 AM
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Well, I guess that depends on the eye of the beholder. I personally have had both types taken of me and enjoyed both experiences.
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Tyson
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Posted - 10/18/2005 : 12:40:57 AM
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Hello, I am a photographer and a model. there is a big diiference between nude art and porn.
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GeeWilly
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 Posted - 10/19/2005 : 4:50:15 PM
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old hippie, I beg to differ. I can too tell the difference between a nude body and a tree stump. And I am sure some folks await the January white sale catalogs just as fervently as they do the Sports Illustrated swim suit issue. (Is this conversation taking too long?)
Your tie to the shoebox full of old photographs is a proper instance in favor of taking pictures. And in these days of digital photography, the shoebox has morphed into a hard drive. (Ouch!) Maybe a "D" drive?
If it is ok to be nude, can't one defend themselves if unauthorized pictures were to be published? i.e., If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the (nudist venue).
If you are running for public office, the uptight society of which we are a part will lable it "porn" no matter what you say. And if the office is high enough, likely your opposition will even provide the person to take the picture.
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nudetoo
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Posted - 10/22/2005 : 01:52:35 AM
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pictures are only pictures, its how they are used that would make the difference.
They are to remind us of a place or date or a person, to be looked at to relive that time again. And I think a little common sense about taking pics would be a good idea, and yes I like taking nude pics, they are on a disk and I keep them safe.
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smendes
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Posted - 01/19/2006 : 11:58:50 AM
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I am a professional photographer... and my father was one also... I have been taking photos since my father gave me a box camera for my 10th birthday...
therfore in my life, I have taken pictures of anything and everything.
I have taken pictures of nudes and I have also taken porn photos.
nakedness and sex are just part of the human experience... so why should they be excluded from a photographers list of subjects ????
as a nudist child I could never understand what all the fuss was about having to wear clothes... even as a self-concious adolescent, I forced myself to overcome my own shame... because I realized that was what was standing in the way of getting the sexual experiences I so desperately wanted.
I quickly discovered that in an adolescent setting, nobody wants to be the first to take off their clothes.... yet everybody secretly wants that to happen.
Therefore I forced myself and took off mine first
.... and after a few times of this, it was no big deal anymore..
so back to photos... I shared my camera with my friends... because I wanted photos of myself also... and I am so thankful now that I did...
because it brings back memories just to sit and look though my extensive collection.
we are like the flowers that wither and die... none of us can retain our youth (no matter what science can do to preserve us).... therfore in the end...
the ONLY thing that remains is photos and memories... and after we are dead... the photos will be all that remain.
I am leaving behind plenty... my whole life story in photos is on the internet... although it wont get me "immortality"... its the best I can do.
In closing, I thank my father (who has since passed out of this life) for taking photos of me in the craddle and throughout my early childhood... and for showing me how to take my own thereafter...
I thank my friends, who co-operated by letting me take photos of them and who also took photos of me (which I could not have taken for myself).
I was never physically or sexually abused... my parents loved each other and they adored me.. they protected, guided and raised me to the best of their ability... all in an atmosphere of love.
I regard myself as an intelligent, average adult specimen... no different from any of the other John Doe's or Joe Blo's in the world.
It amazes and amuses me to see the "fuss" that people make over nudity and porn...
I understand that there are perverts out there who hunt for victims... and they use naked photos and porn to incite their lust.... but the vast majority of people do not fall into this category.
Many people drink liquor... but the vast majority are not alcoholics.
It is a pity that nudity and porn gets blamed for every sexual deviant that exists.
what is really needed is better security for all and caring parents who take their parental duties seriously.
just my two cents worth
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SingingSabre
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Posted - 01/19/2006 : 4:36:12 PM
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smendes: Thank you for that very insightful and well written response. You have summed up my thoughts on the matter, too.
I have nude photos of me. I do not have pornographic photos of me...although I have at one point. They're all pictures of me and capture different things. Funny thing, though, I think I look better unclothed than I do clothed.
Random side note: I have a pretty cool video my friend took of me. I'm nude and doing fire eating tricks.
"Son, crying in your milk is bad enough. Crying in your hot fudge sundae is just disgusting." R.A. Heinlein.
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falcon
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Posted - 02/25/2006 : 9:34:17 PM
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Neither my wife or I take,down load, or have any nude photo's. We believe that most nudist photo's are tasteful and are taken for educational purposes. The difference between nude and sexual photo's is quite obvious. Nude photo's are just picture of people doing every day normal things except nude. Pornography is a whole different subject matter. It is the old comparing apples to oranges concept.
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smendes
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Posted - 02/27/2006 : 7:11:10 PM
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"nude" and "porn" are VERY subjective ideas..
I frequently do model "sets"... for those of you who have never seen a model "set".... here is a description...
SOLO MALE
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1. some nice photos in clothes... various positions.. camera angles... facial expressions... all taken against a nice scenic background... the sort of thing you would find in a fashion magazine.
2. a few close up's... facial shots... the face fills the frame... and the persons facial expression is the subject
3. the photo shoot continues as the model gradually disrobes... photos are taken along the way... first without shirt.. then without pants (underwear photos).... finally the model is naked... and we do body photos from all angles again (the model may or may not have an erection on disrobing depending on whether this is their first time and whether they find the idea of these photos sexually stimulating or not.... but this initial erection subsides once I get them climbing trees or playing beach ball and generally enjoying themselves naked)
4. a few close ups of the genital region and butt are taken (the model may spread apart their legs and bend down looking between their legs and back at the camera... this usually reveals the anus and includes the genitals in the same photo)
5. The model continues to have fun... while pictures are being taken (both closeups and full body shots)... they masturbate to orgasm.. and I take photos from all angles... at orgasm, I try to "freeze" the moment (in the same way one might capture a raindrop as it splashes on the pavement).
6. photos are taken as the model cleans up (bathes in the spring or in the sea or whatever) and puts back on their clothes.
SOLO FEMALE
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essentially the same basic idea as above (except for the impossibility of the erection and orgasm phases)... instead they finger themselves and I take some gynaecological photos... revealing as much detail of their anatomy as possible.
WHAT DO YOU ALL MAKE OF THIS ?
It could be successfully argued that none of this is "PORN"... since it is merely a visual documentation of the biological functioning of the sexual system of a particular individual at a certain point in their lives.
We could for instance do a number of such photo sets for an adolescent boy... this would reveal penis development from childhood to manhood... along with increased s**** production.. pubic hair growth... and visually document the marvellous changes that occur at puberty.
What is the problem with this ?
Where is the "porn" aspect in this innocent photo shoot ?
Society has so conditioned our minds... that such photos are regarded as taboo... but why ?
As a photographer, I feel that there is nothing off-limits to my camera.... all is just part of the human existence... capturing the moment as it happens naturally is the most deirable... setting it up to look natural is even more challenging...
.... please post your feelings on this subject.. I like to stimulate thought-provoking discussion
[Admin's note: This post explains why this Smendes is no longer a member in good standing, and has lost his privilege to post here.]
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ilovegabibbo
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Posted - 02/28/2006 : 7:23:02 PM
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Hi, again, Smendes.
Thought-provoking it is!
I'm on your side here, but I think you're going to have difficulty getting most people to agree with you on this site!! :o)
IMHO it all depends exactly how these shots are taken AND how each individual perceives them. The results could be either aesthetic or pornagraphic, just as pictures of children naked would be totally innocent in most people's eyes, but to a small minority are sexually arousing.
A good 25 years ago my brother took a series of stills of a mother breastfeeding. In those days, even a picture of a naked breast was considered somewhat pornagraphic, but the way these shots were taken depicted something beautiful, natural and loving and tomy mind there was nothing rude or debasing about them. I must have been about 17 at the time, but didn't think my brother had depicted anything sexual in those photographs.
Good luck with this thread, Smendes!
xx Helen.
Helen
Naturist since 1992 and still loving it!
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sailorsam2050
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 10:40:28 PM
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smendes: A couple of great posts. While I agree with Helen that that you won't get much support for your opinion from most people on this site, I agree with you.
Keep on preaching
BTW, my wish is to pass a law that REQUIRES everyone to be nude for at least 3 weeks of every year...
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smendes
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Posted - 03/08/2006 : 4:44:39 PM
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Well thanks for your support sailorsam
Personally, I am not about forcing anybody to do anything.... I hate all this law making crap... I have scant respect for rules and regulations myself .... and I have no interest in imposing my will on others.
But I know what you mean... when I was a child I saw a comedy called "The Nude Bomb".... and I thought how neat it would be if everybody in the world was nude.... but it was just a childhood fantasy... however, I always liked nudity and wanted to take nude photos of others whenever I got the opportunity and that has not changed now I am an adult.
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Admin
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Posted - 03/14/2006 : 10:20:14 PM
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Originally posted by smendes
... they masturbate to orgasm... It could be successfully argued that none of this is "PORN"... since it is merely a visual documentation of the biological functioning of the sexual system of a particular individual at a certain point in their lives... Where is the "porn" aspect in this innocent photo shoot?
I don't buy this argument at all. Since when is photographing young people masturbating "innocent"?
Anyone indicating possession of such photo sets in this forum will be regarded with the greatest suspicion. Photo peddlers are not allowed here, as well as those that 'sound' like photo peddlers. Sorry, we don't play that game.
Smendes, keep in mind that you are speaking to an American audience primarily, and their values are often drastically different than those of your continent. Also, your posts profile you as a photographer with an abundance of custom nude photography, perhaps willing to share. Since I cannot monitor whether you are staying within the laws of the countries involved, I cannot allow you to use this forum to promote your photography, since you have made it clear much of it includes "innocent" portrayals of what many would consider the worst kind of pornography, even possibly including the "adolescent boy".
I am locking your ability to post until this matter is resolved. Email me and explain your position if you disagree.
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freecplnAr
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Posted - 03/21/2006 : 1:50:22 PM
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There is a definite line between nude photos and pornographic photos. I have seen pics of people on a nudist site that are the same as a pic one might see on a porn site. Case and point: a pic of a young lady riding on a boat at a nude resort. She was laying back facing the camera with her legs spread completely open. To me, that is pornographic. I see other pics that I feel are truly portraying the beauty and freedom of nudism, celebrating the human form without the erotic poses that change the focus from simple clothes free living to a sexually charged image.
Thank God it's almost warm!!
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go n nude
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Posted - 03/25/2006 : 12:27:32 PM
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Question#1 Do you take nude pictures? Yes!
""""""""#2 Is it PORN? To me NOT! To some unhealthy,mind/person it might be!Pictures are worth 1000 words and the eye of the beholder,one could only guess!
go n nude
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smoothy33567
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Posted - 03/26/2006 : 7:53:27 PM
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As stated previously, In our opinion, nude is not porn, unless it depicts "arounsed genitals" or a sex act of any kind. Think about it all the greek marble art you see, no one is an erection, that is art.... though not a prude and for the sake of this topic. Just being nude doing anything, is fine as long as everyone agrees to the context. Safe, sane and consetual works for us!
Never say never
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