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papabare
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Posted - 03/08/2004 :  9:48:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit papabare's Homepage  Send papabare a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I had the same issue Melissa, well about controling partners (Not being asked for sex/dates allla time).

A good relationship should be about give and take and should be a Partnership, not a dictatorship. Unfortunatly there are alot more Takers then there are Sharers. That is our society for you, we raise our kids to 'Grasp what you want, Do anything you want to do and have a goood job so you can buy all kinds of good stuff, or marry a doctor' not 'Be a Happy, Healthy human who makes others Happy aswell, give as much as you get'

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bornnude
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Posted - 03/08/2004 :  10:11:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kimberly

Bornnude when a woman feels good about herself and has more confidence does that make her more appealing to men? This is an honest question, not try to be funny this time.


Like the other men here, I would say yes... Although I can't answer for women, I think the same follows for women's attitudes toward men.

It seems there is something that just overflows when someone has a healthy confidence.

I mention healthy because there seem to be all sorts of unhealthy types of "confidence" (if you can call it that).

In my experience, it was a matter of 1) those women around me who were not fishing (best term I can figure out right now) for a mate but just looking for a friend or human interaction and 2) someone who is not threatening and 3) someone not afraid to be upfront about being a person (as opposed to an exhibitionist or introvert)





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Kimberly
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Posted - 03/08/2004 :  11:14:27 PM  Show Profile  Send Kimberly a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with you bornnude, just wanted to know the male prospective. Sometimes being friendly is mistaken for flirting, and being confident and not ashamed of your body, enjoying being nude, is sometimes taken by men as being open for sex.

Kim =^.^=



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philzer
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Posted - 03/09/2004 :  10:00:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by melissastarr

I thought men wanted a woman who he can control? That's one of the many reasons I'm not married yet. That and Mr. Right hasn't come along... has anyone seen him????

Melissa


I don't want a woman I can control, I want a woman who is her own person and who doesn't want or need someone to control her. Such women (and they are out there) are nowhere near as appealing as women who are confident in who they are -- and it is a far more powerful attractive force than good looks.

Yes, there are certainly men who only want a woman to control (and the reverse is also true). But I've never seen a happy relationship like that. Only the opposite!

Philzer



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papabare
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Posted - 03/09/2004 :  11:57:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit papabare's Homepage  Send papabare a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I agree Kim, it depends on the guy though. Most of my friends are women so I dont take it as hitting on me unless someone says 'Hey! Ya wanna go on a date!'

I know it has probably lost me atleast one girlfriend because they didnt think I was 'into them'. I see women as friends first, unless it is obvios that that is not what they want.

Now if I woman comes up to me and lands a big ol wet one on my lips I will know she doesnt wanna be friends :) But some guys are so selfcenterd that a woman can bump into them, or even be in the same Room as them and they will think that she wants them.

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Kimberly
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Posted - 03/11/2004 :  03:55:10 AM  Show Profile  Send Kimberly a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah times have changed papabare.

Kim =^.^=



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FireProf
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Posted - 03/11/2004 :  1:58:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been married to my high school sweetheart for over 30 years. I don't think I ever had "control". If I did, don't know when I lost it....but it's gone


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philzer
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Posted - 03/11/2004 :  7:38:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think ol' Sting had it right: if you love somebody, set them free.

(I'm pretty sure he didn't author the follow-up: "If they don't come back, hunt them down and KILL THEM!" Now, now, don't anyone get mad -- I don't subscribe to that either. )

Philzer



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papabare
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Posted - 03/11/2004 :  10:30:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit papabare's Homepage  Send papabare a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Sure Philzer Sure.

I will remember to remark on that if I see you with some cuty @ a club :)

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Edited by - papabare on 03/11/2004 10:37:35 PM

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Kimberly
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Posted - 03/12/2004 :  03:08:26 AM  Show Profile  Send Kimberly a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Congratulations FireProf. After 30 years, you ought to know that no one needs to be in control.

Kim =^.^=



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philzer
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Posted - 03/12/2004 :  8:51:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by papabare

Sure Philzer Sure.

I will remember to remark on that if I see you with some cuty @ a club :)

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Papabare! I'm shocked -- shocked I tell you -- that you're not taking me seriously!

Where have I gone wrong??

Philzer



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papabare
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Posted - 03/13/2004 :  12:53:11 AM  Show Profile  Visit papabare's Homepage  Send papabare a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Thats OK philzer, I will have yer back if your on trial for murder

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calmnude
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Posted - 03/13/2004 :  07:21:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
philzer,

we'll back you up in court if you keep following the road to perdition.

but we'll all be nude of course, and kim will bring her cheerleader pom-poms, so i dont know how it'll go with the jury.



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Kimberly
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Posted - 03/13/2004 :  07:24:40 AM  Show Profile  Send Kimberly a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
You think my Pom Poms will distract the jury calmnude? Maybe if i shot a thong at the judge?

Kim =^.^=



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philzer
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Posted - 03/13/2004 :  08:50:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Friends who will defend me at my murder trial, wearing nothing but pom-poms and firing thongs at the judge. Now THAT'S loyalty. *Sniff, sniff.* 'Scuse me, I think I've got something in my eye... *Sniff.*

Philzer



Edited by - philzer on 03/13/2004 08:54:13 AM

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