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cyndiann
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 Posted - 11/08/2003 : 3:03:45 PM
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i think you are being a little harsh and judgemental cyndiann. this is a new person here, and instead of being understanding, you are berating them simply because of a difference of opinion.
and i think the personal attacks on both sides are uncalled for.
I think personal attacks are uncalled for too and that's why I don't post them. I don't see any berating either. Please, call me on what I really do, not what you imagine I did.
And BTW, isn't this section supposed to be for women to post? Calmnude, your profile says you are male.
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Cheri
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 5:10:14 PM
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Cyndiann,
You said to Melissa, "Maybe you have a problem with social anxiety. They have medication for that. Sure seems easier to fix your own phobia than to require all of one gender to change for you."
Please let's stick to the issues. People in new situations, be it going to a nudist event, or driving a car for the first time have anxieties. A 10:1 ratio in a small environment to someone not used to that enviroment maybe a little uncomfortable.
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cyndiann
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 6:37:47 PM
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Originally posted by Cheri
Cyndiann,
You said to Melissa, "Maybe you have a problem with social anxiety. They have medication for that. Sure seems easier to fix your own phobia than to require all of one gender to change for you."
Yes I did say that. Why are you mentioning it?
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Please let's stick to the issues. People in new situations, be it going to a nudist event, or driving a car for the first time have anxieties. A 10:1 ratio in a small environment to someone not used to that enviroment maybe a little uncomfortable.
That was one of the issues. I'm not sure what you are saying here so please complete your thoughts so I've got a clue.
Of course there are some anxieties but there is a time when anxiety is more than that and that is a legitimate point to bring up.
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Cheri
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 6:44:19 PM
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Cindiann, You said, "I think personal attacks are uncalled for too and that's why I don't post them. I don't see any berating either. Please, call me on what I really do, not what you imagine I did."
I'm calling you on it. That was what my last message said to you in reference to what you wrote to Melissa.
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cyndiann
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 6:59:48 PM
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Originally posted by Cheri
Cindiann, You said, "I think personal attacks are uncalled for too and that's why I don't post them. I don't see any berating either. Please, call me on what I really do, not what you imagine I did."
I'm calling you on it. That was what my last message said to you in reference to what you wrote to Melissa.
That is not a personal attack. People with severe anxiety problems are for real and being able to discuss that should not be look at as a personal attack. How it relates is this...
People have drinking problems so should we ban alcohol just in case someone drinks too much?
People have problems with gambling so should we close down all casinos?
People have problems with seeing nudity so should we close down all the nudist resorts and beaches?
Don't try and turn a legitimate arguement into a flame when it never was. You know better.
Maybe a few doses of Paxil will help her cope better. Who are you to say it wouldn't?
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Cheri
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 7:10:22 PM
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Cyndiann, Melissa is a new nudist having attended only one event. It's only been a month since the idea of her wanting to be a nudist surfaced. I don't think what she is going through is over-reacting. Paxil and other psychotropic drugs are not the answer to all life's problems. It's not an overblown anxiety problem. It's a true and real issue with her. When someone without an MD after their name tells someone that they're probably more than reasonably anxious, that's name calling.
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cyndiann
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 7:24:20 PM
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Originally posted by Cheri
Cyndiann, Melissa is a new nudist having attended only one event. It's only been a month since the idea of her wanting to be a nudist surfaced. I don't think what she is going through is over-reacting. Paxil and other psychotropic drugs are not the answer to all life's problems. It's not an overblown anxiety problem. It's a true and real issue with her. When someone without an MD after their name tells someone that they're probably more than reasonably anxious, that's name calling.
Only that is not what I said. I said it was a maybe. I have no way of knowing she's had just one experience and I also don't know enough to make any call so that calls for the word "maybe". She needs someone to be with her to explain things most likely and that would be enough. You would be very much the wrong person to do that because you look at these issues with prejudice.
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 7:27:27 PM
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Hello girls. Sorry to intrude into the ladies room, but I thought I'd let you know this issue will be addressed in due time, but definitely not until the full moon has passed tonight! Did you know there is an eclipse in a few minutes?
As the full moon passes through the eclipse, all our troubles and disagreements will dissolve and reappear in a new topic especially for this dispute.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
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melissastarr
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 7:56:25 PM
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Cindiann,
It seems that I've said something or done something to offend you. I really had no intention of doing so, but it appears as though you're upset with me. Perhaps I'm wrong, but that's what it seems like. Please accept my apologies if I have done something offensive toward you.
Regarding the issue at hand, I think I've been pretty honest in saying that I'm probably more anxious than most. And for good reason. Cheri has been instrumental in helping me to become more relaxed about nudism and to really enjoy the nudist lifestyle. She has spent hours with me on message boards, in chat, and on the phone to help me grow more comfortable with nudism. She has also acted as a mother in guiding me toward understanding what it is to be a woman, helping me to put the past in the past, overcoming fears, understanding sensuality and sexuality, and developing a positive body image. I'm so thankful that she has taken me under her wing and been 'my mom' through all of this. Under her loving guidance I'm sure I'll overcome many, many fears and grow as a woman and as a person.
Though my fears are probably greater than most, I'd also guess that others would have some degree of anxiety when encountering such a new and intimate situation. From what I've read on various message boards, just about everyone is anxious at their first nude event. Further, there are likely others like me who have some things from the past to 'get past.' Nudism can be sooo healing for people like that, for people like me. The amount of change in me in the past month is absolutely incredible- practically miraculous! I'd love to see nudism help others in my situation. The fear is great, however, and sensitivity of other nudists is such a help. I'm personally very thankful for Cheri and the many others who have helped me.
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Cheri
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 10:37:05 PM
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Melissa, Nice to have a "daughter" such as you!
Hugs, Cheri
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melissastarr
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Posted - 02/28/2004 : 1:55:03 PM
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I have a woman's question and I'm not sure if I'm alone here or nuts or a bit of both. I love to sleep in the nude and find that I sleep much better that way. But there's a problem. I'm very sensitive to tactile stimuli and I can't even sleep right if my legs aren't shaved well. The obvious answer to this is to keep my legs shaved each day and there's no problem. But there are two problems with that: 1) My legs are sensitive and if I shave too often I get razor burn or worse and 2) I don't always have hot water TO shave. Lately I've had to put sweatpants on at night so I could sleep but I'd really rather not do this. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this little problem?
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sailordave
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Posted - 02/28/2004 : 6:14:22 PM
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Cheri, I've finally come out in the open as a nudist on our local message boards and have had a few ladies express interest in going to a nudist club. One has actually been to a nude beach and would like to visit a nudist club. I've posted links to the nearest clubs and have posted the first of the two sites on your message board post for those ladies considering this.
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justmerob
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Posted - 02/28/2004 : 8:16:07 PM
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When I was a child (8 or 9), I got into the back of a station wagon (remember those, lol) for a ride to the beach with several playmates (all girls) who lived next door. I had a fat roll around my waste, nothing outrageous; something I 'grew out of later'). But one of the girls remarked on it, and it brought laughter from others. It may be that events like that, many rooted in childhood, cause people to be especially wary of nudism. Some things are never forgotten; the mind burns it into our circuitry. It's a simple matter of doing something counter-phobic, and that is a brave, and risky choice. But the rewards may be worth the challenge.
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Cheri
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Posted - 02/29/2004 : 11:03:40 AM
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Melissa, One of the alternatives to shaving with hot water/soap, how about using a handcream. It glops (new word?) up the razor, but works quite well.
Dave, Nice going.
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Posted - 02/29/2004 : 6:50:46 PM
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I like shaving with Noxzema. It's smoother than real shaving cream.
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