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toosunni
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Posted - 03/08/2004 :  12:12:21 AM  Show Profile  Send toosunni an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Nudist vs naturist is there a difference? I've heard so many definitions of the 2 words, it makes my head spin. From all the definitions I've seen, I would characterize myself more as a naturist than a nudist. Sometimes the only difference I see is the spelling.

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FireProf
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Posted - 03/09/2004 :  12:56:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think in the past the simple difference was, being a nudist, you liked to be nude all the time. A naturist was a person who was also nude but was someone who enjoyed communing with nature. Being nude in the woods, mountains, etc.

I think as time has passed, the two words or definations has merged and we Nudist/Naturists enjoy being nude all the time, or as much as possible, and we enjoy being nude wherever we can, in a metropolitian area, country, beach, woods or the mountains.

We tend to use the term nudist when we talk with other nudists. We use the term naturist when we are talking to textiles that have questions regarding our lifestyle. When we try and educate those wanting answers, using "naturists" websites you stand a better chance of them logging onto a legitimate naturist website. If you use the nudist to search, you stand to get more adult/porn listings that then begin to solidify their thoughts and fears about nudism/naturism.

Just or 5 cents worth.



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melissastarr
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Posted - 03/09/2004 :  6:09:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit melissastarr's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The two words seem pretty interchangeable to me. Naturists are supposedly more outdoorsy while nudists just like being nude (indoor or outdoor.) I like the term naturist better than nudist... nudist = nude and I don't like the word nude. Analyze that! LOL

Melissa

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"Do they say that nudity and sex always go together? Well, then be careful and don't get pregnant while taking a bath."



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Cheri
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Posted - 03/09/2004 :  7:30:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Melissa, I use the terms interchangeably. I like the word naturist better also.
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calmnude
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Posted - 03/09/2004 :  9:04:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
its a matter of semantics.

naturist was used by people who liked the bare lifestyle, but did not like the rules and overregulation of the nudist establishment. (1970s)

however, over time, they have also become part of the establishment.

so now the term in the U.S. is interchangeable.

in europe, almost all use the term naturist



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Kimberly
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Posted - 03/09/2004 :  11:07:20 PM  Show Profile  Send Kimberly a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Your right about that Calmnude. When we were in Europe, we were naturists, not nudists.

Kim =^.^=



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papabare
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Posted - 03/09/2004 :  11:23:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit papabare's Homepage  Send papabare a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I tend to use them interchangibly myself. I noticed today while talking to two different individuals seperatly that I seemed to use naturist more when around other textiles who could overhear but used them both pretty evenly when in private. As stated by Melissa, nudist has the term nude in it which textiles pick up on more, so I don't use it when talking around textiles :)

I also prefer naturist, cause I Love nature and would live my life in the woods or the beach (Or better yet in the woods BY a Beach :). Citys are nice but nature is the best :)

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james423
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Posted - 06/14/2004 :  10:25:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Once upon a time in America, nudists were those associated with clubs/resorts while naturists were those who enjoyed free beaches. However, the terms are now used interchangeably & I'll refer to myself as a nudist or as a naturist.


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tucsonnude
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Posted - 06/15/2004 :  2:40:51 PM  Show Profile  Click to see tucsonnude's MSN Messenger address  Send tucsonnude a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with calm and james..naturist is more a person who goes into nature and not established resorts..I call myself a naturist I go nude at home and in nature..have not been to a resort or camp..


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Nudony
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Posted - 01/22/2005 :  12:44:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The term naturist was created in Europe. The purpose behind it was to distinguish nude beach goers (nudists) from social, organized (naturists).


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Tender86
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Posted - 07/16/2005 :  1:28:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting discussion. In discussing nudism with non-nudits, the term naturist is less scary for them. I start out using the naturist term and as they become more comfortable, nudist is used equally. I don't believe there is any difference in the meaning. Basically both mean "without clothing"

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joenudist
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Posted - 07/17/2005 :  12:25:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just got back from Mazo Beach (in WI). I am starting to meet more and more people and I have noticed that most of folks I have talked to refer to themselves and those around us as nudists. However, most of the organizations they belong to use the word Naturist i.e. Badger Naturists, Minnesota Naturists, the Naturist Society etc. Is this a local phenomenon or do you see this across the country.

I personally believe the two words are interchangeable and when talking around textiles the word naturist is probably the better choice to use.

Thanks

Joe



Edited by - joenudist on 07/17/2005 1:27:27 PM

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FireProf
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Posted - 07/17/2005 :  3:57:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We've used both terms and believe they are indeed interchangeable. We refer to ourselves as nudists when talking with other nudists but usually refer to ourselves or use the word "naturist" when talking with non nudists.

Using the word "naked" doesn't bother us, but we don't use it unless we're talking to each other. We, my wife and I, will usually say something like "let's go to the......and get naked", when we are suggesting visiting a club, beach or resort.



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Little Fellow
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Posted - 04/21/2008 :  3:51:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Originally i thought Nudist just meant someone who was a fan of being naked and Naturist meant someone who enjoys nature, meaning also being naked. Recently the terms have become entwinned!


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agde
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Posted - 05/25/2020 :  4:53:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One advantage of Naturist over Nudist is that it resonates more with "natural" than "take off your clothes" ...but I've never got anybody in the States to use Naturist.

What about the opposite? Is "textiles" the opposite for both?

So I'm talking with an Aussie friend in California about going out on his sailboat and he says, "I know you're a nudist so just to be clear that, at a minimum, shorts are to be worn!" It was said in good humour, so I joked back, "Your boat, your dress code, but the way you say 'nudist' makes it sound like its not normal to only wear what's needed. I don't call you a 'costumist' because you wear unnecessary stuff from Sailing Magazine." "So what would you consider 'necessary'?" "I would think that the real minimum for the job is sunglasses and a proper hat. If you have me working the lines, then gloves and, ok, maybe shorts so that nothing gets accidently tangled?"

The point of my story is that, when I thought about it later, we really need an equivalent word for the opposite of "nudist" that is not passive like "textiles" but is more operational. "Nudist" has the built-in assumption you start out clothed. We need a word that assumes people start out natural and then add clothing according to need, unlike the "other group" that cover up for preconceived irrational reasons.

For example (just brainstorming)

  • "costumists" implies people who dress in costumes for a role (like the Zoomers who "unnecessarily" put on a coat&tie for online office meetings),

  • "masqueraders" implies people who cover up only to mask/hide something (like people who "unnecessarily" wear a swimsuit on a sunny day at the beach),

  • "gazists" - a word I've made up to imply people so steeped in what feminists call the male gaze "rape culture" (in which everyone assumes that nobody has carnal impulse control) that uncovered bodies invite violence and hence must be covered for protection.

  • "pudists" - another word (rhymes with nudist) that I've made up based on the latin "pudor" (modesty+shame) that I'm defining as people who have not yet learned that modesty is not a function of clothing, but rather (as even the Vatican Catechism agrees in its definitions of modesty and "purity of heart") of attitudes of mutual respect for each other's personal dignity, whether clothed or not.


You may have other better ideas? So far, I like "pudists" the best, with the others as subcategories…
My Aussie friend is a pudist and costumist!



Edited by - agde on 05/25/2020 5:14:22 PM

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Daretobare
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Posted - 05/26/2020 :  04:54:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You've set out some great ideas Agde. I too have found it odd at times using the term "textile". Partially of the fact I don't like labeling. Yet we do need to distinguish between at times.
How about we call the others... Non-opportunists. One that hasn't taken the opportunity to enjoy a bare type of life.



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