| Author |
 Topic  |
|
Nudony
Forum Member
|
 Posted - 04/02/2011 : 10:29:46 PM
|
quote:
Originally posted by mj45
The ice is broken! The wife and I spent 2 days &1 nite at Breezer Palms in S,Fla on the way to the Keys a week ago and she diddn't hate it!!
Michael
Good deal! But how much ice was broken exactly? Did you crack the surface or did you completely break through it? In other words, did she just accompany you or did she participate - with some enthusiasm?
The first time I took my wife to the resort, I would call it a "mild" victory because she did accompany me; but was only nude for about 20 minutes in the hot tub. The "real" victory was a few trips later, when she finally tossed off her sarong, left it in the changing room and went about socializing for the rest of the day, nude and pretty happy about it.
Obviosuly, I don't know what level of accomplishment we're talking about here; and a small accomplishment is better than none. At any rate, stick with it and see if she's ready and willing to do a longer, more social nudist outing.
|
|
Country:
| Posts: 504 |
 |
|
|
mj45
Forum Member
|
Posted - 04/05/2011 : 1:51:31 PM
|
the ice never was very thick, I propsoed to her on an illegal nude beach on Bihia Honda in the Fla keys 28 years ago. She has slept nude since she was 10. It's the old hangup about someone may see us! I am nude in the house most of the time and she is ok with that but she won't go to a local park!!! We just need more us time, we run a store that we keep open 7 days a week--- this trip was the first real vacation in 12 years!! But i'm sure we will hit another park in S Fla next winter for more that 2 days.
Michael
|
|
Country: USA
| Posts: 53 |
|
|
|
Warmskin
Forum Member
|
Posted - 04/06/2011 : 04:47:24 AM
|
Quite sad that the media builds up the image of a woman having to look like a model. This is grossly unfair to most women. From our point of view this makes the "average" women potentially feel intimidated into trying nudism. I am assuming, however correctly or incorrectly that women who have yet to try nudism feel they don't "measure up" to the expectations that really don't exist at a nudist resort.
One could propose the fallacy that all men at a nudist resort are ultra-muscular men that women chase after, and that the women will make fun of men who have an average build. We know that is not true, so why should it be true in the opposite direction? I'd much rather talk to an interesting nudist woman than to a bubblehead model who looks "perfect."
Model type women to me are not attractive. They are inanimate, boring, useless, and consist of a host of other negative attributes.
To the contrary I find "average women" to be fascinating, attractive, alive, bubbly in their own way, and much more.
In actuality, women have little to fear, as we all know, at a nudist resort. Yet, this unnecessary attitude exists in women who feel highly uncomfortable at the very thought of being nude socially. Ironically, women who do go to a nudist resort for the first time, and find it to be not particularly challenging want to come back to the resort without any hesitation. They find that a resort is full of imperfect bodies (that did sound a bit morbid!!). 
Anticipation can be disabling compared to the real experience. Anticipatory anxiety always exceeds reality based, in-the-moment based anxiety. I know that for a fact, many times over. I used to live that principle to great effect in my own life.
At my first nudist resort experience, I faked it until I made it. I assumed that it would be an average situation, and in quick order for me, it was. Don't let your mistaken perception override the rather mild reality of a resort.
So, please encourage your female friends, counterparts or whatever relationship, to realize that they'll look like everyone else at a resort, and no one is judging them. Just the opposite.
I'm stating the obvious, but it needs to be repeated and shared with a woman who is hesitating about sharing the nudist experience.
Come on, gals, don't be showed up by the guys!
"Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto." Thomas Jefferson
|
|
Country: USA
| Posts: 1964 |
|
|
|
mj45
Forum Member
|
Posted - 04/07/2011 : 10:20:35 AM
|
you jumped the wrong way Warmskin, the holdup wasn't the body but political correctnes here in the buckle of the Bible belt! We are very connected and visiable around here and she has a hard time thinking that anyone she might see at a park is just like her a nudist and what happens there stays there!
Michael
|
|
Country: USA
| Posts: 53 |
|
|
|
Warmskin
Forum Member
|
Posted - 04/12/2011 : 06:03:43 AM
|
Gotcha, MJ. Social conditioning!
Well, if you both run into a nudist that is very socially conservative, let that person feel awkward instead of you. They could not be justified in criticizing you, without engaging in rank hypocrisy.
I find that being a Christian is highly compatible with nudism. Take the teaching about the lillies of the field, and how they care not for "clothing," and were far better than all the fancy clothing that King Solomon wore.
So, those who cling to clothing to appear virtuous, are not in touch with the crux of Christianity. That would possibly presuppose that people who dress in elegant formal wear are much better people than those who wear modestly priced clothing, or wear no clothing.
What these folks fail to realize is that your inner being is what counts, and if you center your life on horrible thoughts, all the clothing in the world is not going to change that problem. Imelda Marcos had 3000 shoes, and look what happened to her.
I hope this time I'm somewhat on point. Sometimes I can run with something that I thought mistakenly was the main point. Let me know.
"Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto." Thomas Jefferson
|
|
Country: USA
| Posts: 1964 |
|
|
|
tommyjoe
Forum Member
|
Posted - 04/15/2011 : 12:00:14 PM
|
I have tryed and tryed to get her to try it , but I don't get anywhere with her and it's really begining to bug me. I don't know what to do . I don't know if it's low self esteeam or what. When I bring it up it seems like she's not even listenning. HELP!
|
|
Country: USA
| Posts: 118 |
|
|
|
FireProf
Forum Member
|
Posted - 04/15/2011 : 4:32:03 PM
|
Tommyjoe,
I honestly mean no offense...
Is your wife willing to be nude with you at home? If so...
It took quite a while for me to get the Prof to consider public nudity (our nude beach). It took several trips a year for a couple years and not until after we met another couple, she liked, and they suggested a resort (Desert Shadows). After a few visits to a nude resort and continued visits to the nude beach...she was all good with it.
IF NOT;...then that's a different subject and whole new ballgame.
It's amazing to me that a woman that has married a man, has sex with the man, bore children with this man and loves this man...has a problem with this man seeing her naked...or she seeing him naked.
Yes, I understand upbring, church/religion having strong reasons for a persons view on certain things but...if a woman/man has issues with seeing her/his spouse nude, all the time, occasionally, or at all...there are serious issues that need professional help and as much as we'd love to help you...we are the wrong people to intervene.
I know every square inch of the Prof's body. I'm asked by our dermatologist every six months, during our visits, if I have noticed any thing she'd like me to look at. She never bats an eye when I tell her about a spot near the Prof's vagina, anus, or other parts of the body. I should know this...every spouse should know this and want to know this of the person they love and are married to.
This lifestyle takes some getting used to, to go public but within the privacy of your own home...it should be a no brainer and if there are issues...they need to be discussed and discussed honestly, openly and often.
Sure wish I had the magic words or solution!
|
Edited by - FireProf on 04/15/2011 4:33:48 PM |
|
Country: USA
| Posts: 3175 |
|
|
|
sunflower
Forum Member
|
Posted - 04/18/2011 : 12:15:31 PM
|
From previous posts, a lot of you will know that I have been a nudist for around 50 years.
Some 16 years ago I had breast cancer which resulted in a radical mastectomy, because of my lifestyle I was able to cope with this even in public, as a result of my experiences, a family member and myself set up a business supplying and fitting lingerie and swimwear to ladies who have had breast surgery, in so doing we found an awful lot of women whose husbands never saw them nude even before surgery, also, some men could not cope with their wife having surgery and left them. It is surprising just how many people are in this mindset. Those who do not have a loving, open relationship with their spouse are very unlikely to ever mention the fact.
Having never hidden the fact that I am a naturist despite adverse comments on occasion. Because of the business, this came to the knowledge of a local newspaper, so in fact it was printed in quite a few papers and my life was featured on tv. Personally, naturism is just a natural way of life for me.
I agree with fireprof that these people need treatment of a professional nature.
|
|
Country: Portugal
| Posts: 63 |
|
|
|
JimmieMac51
Forum Member
|
Posted - 04/18/2011 : 12:48:17 PM
|
I've never been able to understand it myself. I've been totally open and honest with both my wives. When going out with each of them they said they have no problem with my nudism.
After being married:
My first wife wouldn't even lie around in the bedroom, with me naked, unless she had on a bra and panties.
I thought my second wife was going to be different because I had talked about wanting to find nude beaches and resorts when travelling. She acted like she was all for it, even expressing she had gone to a nude beach in Cal. a few years ago. I had the opportunity to to Fla, to my nieces wedding. I didn't get the chance, I thought I would have to go to a nudist resort. She found the list of resorts on the table a few weeks later, her comment was "discusting".
What's up with that? It's not like I've been a secret, lock myself in my room, nudist or something. When I'm home I'm usually naked. I've always talked about meeting other nudists, not only since I've known her, long before I've known her.
Jimmie
|
|
Country: USA
| Posts: 188 |
|
|
|
sunflower
Forum Member
|
Posted - 04/18/2011 : 3:21:26 PM
|
Difficult to explain Jimmie, but in fact a lot of women are like that. I am thought odd because I go to a nudist beach alone and like that lifestyle.
Friends of mine, he will go around the house naked, sleep naked but his wife always covers up as much as possible.
In my generation (60+) I can understand the attitude to a degree, as we as young people were always told it was very wrong and shameful, sometimes even I with my outlook, find it difficult to discuss certain subjects.
|
|
Country: Portugal
| Posts: 63 |
|
|
|
Landlord
Forum Member
|
Posted - 04/18/2011 : 4:06:03 PM
|
JimmieMac51;
My first wife was similar to yours, except she also wore a nightgown and a robe!
With my New Bride of 5 years (high school sweetheart - should have chased after her more seriously last century <Grin>), we never discussed it. While we were long distance dating (4,600 miles apart) one time when she was visiting me, we went to Little Beach on Maui - primarily for the "daring and outrageous" factor. We both discovered we enjoyed the feeling of freedom and release. Next time she came to visit me, we went to "Hangin' Loose", a c/o B&B on the Island of Hawaii. After we married and I moved to mid-west (where she lived) we've found a couple of "not too far away" naturist facilities and have traveled to some in Florida and New York. We are home nudists, nearly every night after 7 pm until 7 a.m., and many hours though the weekend. Almost every morning and every night we enjoy our hot tub naturally on the patio, and in warm weather often have diner and weekend breakfast, naturally, on the patio.
I think we both did it right the second time around.
--
|
|
Country:
| Posts: 39 |
|
|
|
JimmieMac51
Forum Member
|
Posted - 04/19/2011 : 10:51:39 PM
|
Sunflower,
Yea, I just turned 60 last month, I thought our generation kinda loosened things up a bit. Now it seems more like it's going the other way.
Landlord,
Looks like it worked out good for you. Congrats.
I'm in the mid-west too. Mid-Missouri. The closest I've found is about 45 mins to an hour away. The problem lies in their schedule vs My schedule. They're only open on weekends but my days off are Mon & Tue. Next month I go to Wed & Thu.
Can't seem to catch a break.
Jimmie
|
|
Country: USA
| Posts: 188 |
|
|
|
sunflower
Forum Member
|
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 2:27:46 PM
|
I use a local tolerated beach and 99% of the time, I am the only woman on it naked, does make me a bit wary at times but it happens to be within walking distance of where I live, however, apart from the height of the tourist season I can be nude at home and on my balcony quite happily.
There are oficial beaches within about an hours drive but tend to stick to my local one except when there is a beach picnic organised for nudists.
Sorry to say it gentlemen but if your lady is of that mindset that she has to cover most of the time, its very unlikely it will change.
I live in Portugal and would love a genuine naturist man to keep me company on the beach or on holiday.
|
|
Country: Portugal
| Posts: 63 |
|
|
|
FireProf
Forum Member
|
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 5:10:59 PM
|
quote:
Originally posted by sunflower
I use a local tolerated beach and 99% of the time, I am the only woman on it naked, does make me a bit wary at times but it happens to be within walking distance of where I live, however, apart from the height of the tourist season I can be nude at home and on my balcony quite happily.
There are oficial beaches within about an hours drive but tend to stick to my local one except when there is a beach picnic organised for nudists.
Sorry to say it gentlemen but if your lady is of that mindset that she has to cover most of the time, its very unlikely it will change.
I live in Portugal and would love a genuine naturist man to keep me company on the beach or on holiday.
Sunflower...
I couldn't agree more. As I stated in my previous response...I wish there were magic words or full proof solution to change a woman's mind about naturism but...instead of guys wondering "how" to get their wives/girlfriends to a nude venue...they really need to figure out "why" they don't like or want to be nude around them or in the privacy of their own home.
Then, and only then, can or should you even attempt to discuss other venues where she might feel safe and comfortable.
FP
|
|
Country: USA
| Posts: 3175 |
|
|
|
Bill Bowser
Forum Member
|
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 10:42:09 PM
|
Nudism is a difficult topic for many people to face or discuss. Our society seems to imprint us with, what for most people, is an irresistible desire to keep our bodies covered while in the presence of others, or for some even while alone. Many of us are able to overcome this obstacle and enjoy nude recreation, but the majority of the population can not.
The only thing that keeps our textile friends and neighbors from joining us is their attitude. If they realized how inconsequential it was to be seen nude by others and how enjoyable it is to have the warm sun and the cool breeze caress your bare skin they would probably rush to join us.
As with so many facets of our lives our idea of who we are artificially restricts what we do. Ever since I was a young lad I was a closet nudist. I wouldn't have used that term then. I simply enjoyed being nude when I was alone, and I thought that was a little strange. I wasn't exactly sure of what an actual nudist was, but I didn't think I was one. Well, when I finally decided to confront the possibility that I was indeed a nudist, by going to a nude club, I was immediately hooked. I had missed out on many years of enjoyment because I didn't think I was a nudist. I've been a nude junkie ever since my first club visit. I feel sorry for all those who are unable to enjoy this simple pleasure because they refuse to try it.
Bill Bowser - Cincinnati
Nudists are everywhere, but they're hard to identify with their clothes on.
|
|
Country: USA
| Posts: 345 |
|
|
|
Topic |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Nudist-Resorts.Org Discussion Forum Bulletin Board Nudism Clothing Optional Resort Naturism Nude Beaches |
© 2002-2020 SUN |
|
|
|
Getting her to try nudism
