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JustJim
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Posted - 07/17/2006 :  4:31:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
um....I forgot what the question was..

JustJim



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kissedbyfire
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Posted - 07/17/2006 :  7:31:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What honestly matters is the mans skills, not if he's cut or uncut.

I've personally had both and uncut never shocked me. My SO is uncut, he's apparently just learned to pull the foreskin back any time he encounters a new partner. That prevented any rude responces from the women he was sleeping with. He's learned to keep very clean as well. If say, he hasn't showed for a day or so, he'll clean off if things start getting hot and heavy. I've honestly had more issues with men that arn't cut when it comes to hygene. There was a stronger smell to my ex and it was common that I'd end up with a UTI from him.

So far he's the best lover I've ever had and I will admit, the sensation of uncut is MUCH more pleasurable than cut. He took some getting use to and I had to rework a few techniques but I've found I prefer it. Of course, I'm biased, we have amazing chemisty and I'm sickeningly in love with him.

In concerns of whether or not cut lasts longer than uncut, so far he's lasted the longest. Of the men I've been with that were cut never lasted much longer than 45 minutes, he'll go for hours on end if we have the energy.

The only complaint he's ever had is the fact that the area where the foreskin is connected to the underbelly of the shaft can get irritated if things are really rough or we go on for hours. That usually prevents him from doing anything for at least 3 days.

My father didn't want to circumcize my brother but my parents choose to do it anyway. They were worried about the reactions he'd get later on. If I end up with a son I don't plan to have him circumcized, espically if things work out with my SO (can't see it not).



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balataf
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Posted - 07/17/2006 :  8:10:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit balataf's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was circumcized in infancy, myself. But my Wife insisted on it for my older Son, now 26-YO, giving authorization when I was not there. When our second son came, she'd changed her mind, and at 14 1/2 YO, he remains natural. Neither son has had any problems or complaints, and neither do I. The younger one was cautioned many times in growing up to keep his foreskin stretched to avoid problems.

Nor would I have had any possible daughters circumcized with any of the several levels of severity.



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NudeInPa
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Posted - 07/18/2006 :  10:49:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I find this discussion to be very interesting. I am an uncut male who has had differing opinions on this over the years. As a youngster, I hated the fact the I was "different" from the overwhelming majority of my classmates, seeing that a shower was mandatory in gym class at my high school. After leaving high school and becoming sexually active, I found that none of the many girls I had relationships with cared one way or the other and in fact I never heard any comments about it. My wife for the last 25 years has also never commented negatively about it, and loves it because it's part of me. As much as I hate to say it, if I ever would have had a male child, I probably would have opted for circumcision, only to have him avoid the embarassment I felt in my younger days. I have never had a problem associated with being uncircumcised, perhaps because I am naturally a clean person and have always kept the foreskin pulled back.


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Rodders
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Posted - 07/31/2006 :  4:00:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was not circumcised at birth and this is pretty average here. As I grew up, I was unaware pretty much about the whole topic until it came up in discussions at school probably as a result of communal showers. In my case there is little doubt that I would have been a candidate for "the cut" but my parents & doctors thought it was not required. Over the years I have learned that in all probability my penis is pretty sensitive & I also keep the foreskin supple by rolling it fully back from time to time probably most days, it's just something I do. Like the rest of my penis, the exposed head has never caused me any discomfort due to sunburn. The sensitivity was an issue when I became sexually active but prolonged foreplay helped. Indeed the second orgasm has always been the one that gives both me and my partner the most satisfaction, the first often just a part of the jointly enjoyed foreplay. An earlier post mentioned that the exposed head is far more attractive at the time of climax giving the partner a more exciting view of the ejaculation. Being uncircumcised does not exclude this as the foreskin can be retracted allowing the full expression of the climax to be viewed or experienced orally.

As to appearance, well I feel that as with most parts of the body the penis is subject to many different shapes & sizes, circumcision or not being just another element. Hygiene is also something for the entire body & I do take care to ensure that my penis is kept in pristine condition which is not hard & merely routine. In truth, "the cut" for cosmetic reasons now would hold no appeal, but each to his own & that's what makes us human, the choice to be different or not. If we had lived in The States the pressures may have been different and could well have affected the choices regarding male children had we produced any. Most parents probably feel the need to take the most popular choice locally with regard to circumcision to avoid alienating their offspring. Why be the odd one out? I never felt that and the girls I knew whilst maturing never made remarks about my penis being different, but of course here the percentages of those having been circumcised is maybe less than fifty percent & during my teens even less so I was in the majority. Had I lived in a country where nearly all were circumcised then I probably would have felt some embarrassment but I’m happy with my all too obvious imperfect body which is what a lifetime of being a nudist has done for me.



Rod



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Elrin
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Posted - 08/01/2006 :  7:47:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Weird topic this... It feels like I'm on the other side of the looking glass.

Where I grew up, it was the few circumsized kids who got teased - not the other way around. Having a foreskin was (and still is there) considered to be the normal way to be.

It was said that mothers who want their kids circumsized just disliked the idea of keeping their small kids's penis clean as it should be.

Which brings me to that one. Smelly? Unclean? What on earth are you talking about? I have no problem keeping it clean. In fact, i'd say it is possibly the part of my body that I keep the cleanest! Maybe the way I was raised? Who knows... Besides, if a woman can keep her parts clean with all things covered and even harder to reach, any man who can't keep it clean has a hygiene problem IMHO.

Why remove the foreskin? While we're at it, lets go remove all those other "unnecesary" things in our bodies before they give us problems: Appendix, tonsils, second kidney , a few teeth, and so on... Sounds silly doesn't it? But some people do it!

Keep it natural I say.



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funinsun
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Posted - 08/02/2006 :  4:04:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I didn't have a choice and actually the doctor had to do it twice becuase he botched the first one up, according to my mother. But if I were to have a son I would insist that he be left "natural" as God intended.


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devil06
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Posted - 08/06/2006 :  11:15:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i am not circumcised and do not see the big deal with it. I have never had a problem with the foreskin but believe that having it there is a good thing because the head is rather sensitive
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Originally posted by Cinderela

In our class we talked about this and apparently everyone has a different opinion about if it's good or bad, but no one is clear on why everyone should listen to them.

I don't see why it would really be better, I think I heard a while ago on the news that there was really no benefit as people had previously thought. All this information is questionable.

Also, from what I understood in most other countries they just don't do that unless there's some very serious problem.

In my opinion it seems wrong to do that to someone, have them grow up then wonder what it may have been like to be the way they were. The next thing they'll think of is removing people's eyelids.crazy.

Oh and I've also heard of female circumcision but I have no idea of what that is.

Just something to think about.

*chuckle*




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Shrubber
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Posted - 08/08/2006 :  09:17:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm circumsized but wish my parents had left the choice up to me. For some reason most of the Roman Catholics in the area do this to their male children. To me it's child abuse pure and simple.


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Ace
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Posted - 08/08/2006 :  09:33:38 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ace's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Bible is pretty clear on this topic...


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sailawaybob
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Posted - 01/08/2008 :  11:09:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I to was circumsized when i was born ,but as I age I have notice more foreskin which when my penis is not errect comes down partially over the head,don't know if thats normal with men as they age but i'm ok with it,they should have left it alone in the first place.


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briarabbit
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Posted - 01/09/2008 :  02:35:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Medical circumcision is far from painless. It is done with a electric scalpel which cuts and cauterizes at the same time. Think about that a while! The babys scream their heads off! (I worked on Pediatric floors.) It is totally inappropriate for anyone to suggest that it be done because they think it looks better. This is someone's body that you are altering, not something insignificant. It is rarely medically necessary for health. Society accepts it only because of it's long history. If something similar were done to your child on another body part, you would be jailed.


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McNigel
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Posted - 01/09/2008 :  03:42:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's probably a genetic thing in my family, but I had a very tight foreskin that would occasionally stick painfully when pulled back. So I was circumcised at age 12. Not something I'd recommend.
Exactly the same thing happened with my son and he was also circumcised as at 12.

The sensible thing to do would be to have had it done soon after birth and save him the pain and embarrassment later. However due to the 'uncut evangelists' we had to wait until he could decide.

Overall I'd say the pros and cons of circumcision are fairly evenly divided.



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Tuffers
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Posted - 01/11/2008 :  4:04:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was 55 when I had a circumcision due to a very tight foreskin which ruined my life and am pleased to be done with the problem. Why I didn't have it done earlier in life I do not know I enjoy the sun and air getting to the exposed glands and with a little sunblock there is no chance of burning.


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Phydeau
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Posted - 01/12/2008 :  02:10:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit Phydeau's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow. I'm not even sure where to begin. This thread was all over the place.

First off, the argument that removing the foreskin diminishes an orgasm is way off. This, by the way is almost as irrelevant as the argument about the density of nerve endings in the clitoris, so I'll go ahead and include that here, as well.

An orgasm is in the brain. I'll say that again in case you missed it. An orgasm in IN THE BRAIN. The feeling you get is the result of neurons firing in the brain as a result of hormonal releases, and what it is is an amplification of the sensations of certain muscles contracting and releasing, along with a more vague, and slightly longer-lasting general sense of euphoria. This is due to neurochemical hormones. Basically, these hormones are short-term to moderate-term acting drugs produced by the body. Basically, what that means is that the argument of "sensitivity per square millimeter" is irrelevant. As long as you have enough stimulation (and by the way, "stimulation" doesn't even need to be physical) to create an orgasm, the orgasm will be what it will be. Period. In other words, if the word "butter" creates an orgasm for you, it will be no more or less powerful than a cattle prod could do for someone else. It's almost a philosophical argument. Suppose the color you see as "red" looks like "blue" to someone else. Supposing you both call them "yellow", how do you know?

That leads me to the people who are uncircumcised who claim they're better off than the uncircumcised. Really? And your comparison is based on what? Were you once circumcised and grew a new foreskin?
The only people who really DO know are men who were circumcised as adults (i.e. they have a conscious comparison), and the results are mixed. Oddly enough, the results from them are slightly in favor of being circumcised.

As far as aesthetics, I would hope everyone here would be mature enough to not care.

As far as the woman's experience during intercourse, the foreskin is stretched back during an erection, anyway, and I've never heard anyone say it made a hill of beans of difference.

And the comparison to female circumcision is comparing apples to giraffes. Female circumcision is specifically designed to make sex thoroughly unenjoyable to women.

Cleanliness is not much of an issue in the modern world, but it used to be.

What did I miss, besides religion? I don't think I need to address that, since my arguments above make it kind of a silly argument, anyway.



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