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Warmskin
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 Posted - 10/26/2008 : 9:49:21 PM
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I agree with Freckles to some extent. It can be a 2-way street when it comes to arousal. Unfortunately for men, their external symbol of arousal is as subtle as a new billboard along a freeway.
When I tried a nudist resort the very first time of my life, it could have been challenging not to have an erection. I had stripped of my clothes, and walked towards a bunch of nude people by the resort's pool. I had no idea of what to expect. What I saw did not subject me to any sense of arousal. Of course I knew that I had no expectations of sexuality in any form. What I did see was reality, for the first time in my life; unadorned numerous female bodies in-vivo. Groups don't seem to be as sexy as an individual.
The only way I would have or could had an erection would be if a woman had started getting too chummy with me for public consumption.
Other than that, I cannot see myself being surrounded with a mass of nude humanity, and being aroused. The fact that a lot of men are usually around helps reduce even a remote chance of an erection.
For those of you who might seem not to be able to control your physiology, think of military basic training. That would be a cinch for eradicating any physiological changes.
I'm Warmskin, and I approve this message.
That government governs best, which governs least - Thomas Jefferson
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nude charles
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Posted - 10/27/2008 : 8:55:41 PM
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Let us assume an erection is natural, that is, no willing it or manipulation. How can any nudist be against it if no children are present and no flaunting or parading? Aren't nudists supposed to be enlightened, liberal, and non-judgemental?
I know this subject has been discussed to death, but with the above stipulation, where is the problem?
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Teva
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Posted - 10/29/2008 : 11:00:12 AM
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The problem, charles, is that it is overt sexuality...this has closed down nude beaches. Most nudist venues have children.
Teva
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nude charles
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Posted - 10/29/2008 : 4:53:24 PM
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Teva, you ignored my stipulation!
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thornapplebison
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Posted - 10/30/2008 : 01:04:24 AM
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God, 60 pages on this.
Sexual arousal in public is inappropriate, regardless of gender. This very discussion is detrimental to everything that nudism stands for. Only a newbie would ever think about bodies in this way. Once you've been involved in nudism for a while, it's personality, behavior and relationship that makes a person sexy. So long as your conversation and interaction doesn't bring that out in public, you've got nothing to worry about.
Beauty is beauty. Everyone responds to beauty. I can be awe-swept by an unusually beautiful man, although I have no sexual attraction at all. I will have no physical response. But I will recognize beauty for what it is. Same with a woman I don't know. If there's no context, no behavior and no relationship to make that person a prospective sexual partner for me, my body won't respond.
This is the great lesson of nudism: skin is skin. It is not particularly significant. Everyone has it. Everyone's skin is different, and everyone's skin is exactly the same. It's what's inside the skin that counts.
This idea that what's inside the clothes matters is against the foundational ideas of nudism. The body is nothing to be ashamed of, and nothing to be proud of. It is what it is.
Let's get past that already.
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timelord
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Posted - 10/30/2008 : 1:52:08 PM
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Thanks Freckles for being honest and open,
I wish more women would be more frank and enlighten us.
I've been an On and off nudist for some time.
I'm not a robot, where I can turn stuff on and off.
sometimes I get spontaneous erections, and sometimes I get aroused, and many time nothing.
I enjoy the vision of beautiful woman, and have thoughts that gets my blood moving.
Right now women can fantasize all they want, and enjoy their sexuality, we go to nudist camps to enjoy the freedom, and the view.
While us men have to suffer the indignity of a spontaneous erections.
I read comments, if you get one, jump in the pool, fine! that would mean walking in front of every one to get to the pool, also when I see a male on his tommy, guess what he's trying to hide.
I understand the impact on younger children, if there children around, carry a towel, and hold it over your shoulder just in case, then hold it in front when things POP up.
I'm tired of hearing all the negative impact that a spontaneous erections causes.
men are visual creatures we relate to what we see and touch, and frankly I do not want to conform to mind control, think of baseball, calculus, your grandmother/father nude, I'd rather take in the freedom feeling, no worries.
My wife she feels sorry for the guys, she gets easily aroused, and tells me, what am I suppose to do plug my ears and say " laa laa laa laa laa laa"
And some of you women, thinks it's disgusting, seeing an erection, what's this you never seen your husbands or BF. Fine from now on do not carry a towel, carry a pillow sham, Wetness it an indication of a woman's arousal, lets see how many will keep theirs dry. ( any moisture will darken the sheet)
I don't go to nudist resorts in north America, because of your backward thinking.
making us males worry about something we have little control, Yes yes I know, we can control, ... really?, if that's the case you must be focusing on your penis all the time, and go into panic mode when you feel a tingle.
Explain this:
when I put sun tan on my wife
When she puts it on me
When we close dance, sometimes
When I'm really tired
When I have an afternoon nap
I get a spontaneous erections to varying degrees, but sex was not in my mind.
When I hear, It rarely happens, or in 20 years only see one, bull!
it does happen not very often, but it does.
I like the beaches in Italy, there purpose to enjoy, there are tons on teens on the beach sporting erections they can't help it, also young adults
Where are they in north America, only a very few, because of your scare tactics
what I see is, if you're a male, don't come here unless you have 100% control of your penis, otherwise, the erection police will get after you
If you say something or hear something long enough, you'll believe it to be true, 60 pages worth.
I've been quiet for many years but just got fed up, with all this negative thinking
In Italy, virtually all the beaches are topless, the only other place I know is in Ontario Canada, where women have the option, due to sexual discrimination. At least they had some foresight and changed. Can you?
Say to your self, "erections is not a bad thing, don't flaunt it, accept it, it will pass soon, continue with your activity, and if you're strolling and young children are present hold your towel in front, yes but what if I'm playing volleyball, and it happens, just keep on playing it will go away just as fast, don't run for the towel, or the pool, or drop on to your tummy. the point is freedom, but with a little discretion.
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Teva
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Posted - 10/30/2008 : 3:27:30 PM
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Originally posted by nude charles
Teva, you ignored my stipulation!
children are generally around nudist venues...that's a fact. Even if children aren't there for one day or another, I'd rather not see men sporting erections. It's just plain not courteous. I'm not going to write any more on this topic nor most.
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nudeisbetter
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Posted - 10/30/2008 : 3:43:54 PM
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What is everyone so worried about? I've never even seen an erection (nor had one) at a nudist resort. I don't understand the big deal (no pun intended.)
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Warmskin
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Posted - 10/30/2008 : 10:13:20 PM
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From TimeLord:
I don't go to nudist resorts in north America, because of your backward thinking.
I concur, Timelord. If there were a near unlimited supply of nude beaches around America, male and female anatomy would be a boring topic, in that as we increase in our participation in nude settings, the less the novelty of nudeness there will be. As it is, nudity in America remains at a juvenile level, with lewd thought always attached to innocent and matter-of-fact nudity. So, we Americans snicker when we think of nudity.
Nudity, in this sense is seen by many as disgusting or titillating. Some mature attitude. The porn industry is alive in well in America, because where there abnormal surpression of naturalness, there is always a merchant it the dark corners making a dollar off a repressed mind for the sheer arousal and debasement of a deluded customer.
You cannot change human nature, but some people are silly enough to repress something normal, only to have it re-channeled through the media in an unhealthy manner.
Americans could send a man to the moon, but they have yet to attempt understanding nudity in public. Back to square one we need to go. Industry and technology triumph over the natural human body. Some accomplishment!!
If we can get nude at beaches around America, erections will be far less of a worry, because we will be used to nudity. Common nudity will help eradicate the need for concerns of getting erections, will promote healthy body knowledge, and will increase human understanding.
Rant's over, and I feel better.
That government governs best, which governs least - Thomas Jefferson
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GrayWolf
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Posted - 10/30/2008 : 10:54:52 PM
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60 pages! Come on now, enough is enough.
Question: Just how many of you have actually been to a nudist resort and gotten aroused? The trick to this question is ACTUALLY BEEN TO A NUDIST RESORT. I'll bet that most of the pro-erection posters are just trolls looking for a debate on something they know nothing about. Believe it or not, we're actually members of a nudist club. Never seen an erection in all the time we've been there. Don't expect to in a public place or else the person sporting one will be shown to the gate. Move on folks. Worry about something important.
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nudeisbetter
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Posted - 10/31/2008 : 10:03:06 AM
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Right. Never seen one, never had one. Sure, first-timers might be nervous about it, but after learning that it's a non-issue move on. Weird that so many people are having such a difficult time with this concept.
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FlCpl4NewdFun
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Posted - 10/31/2008 : 7:50:51 PM
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I have never posted a reply on any of the "flag Pole" threads. But I have to totally agree with GW and NIB. I have been to numerous resorts, nude beaches, and a few private social gatherings and have never had/seen an erection.
The fact is they just don't happen unless you want it to. Sure, there may be valid (albeit rare) medical cases or situations where one falls asleep on a lounge chair and the natural process takes over; but besides that, it would be pure arousal that is the cause.
When my wife and I went to our very first resort I was truly worried about it, but after the first 15 minutes or so the fear subsided and I haven't thought about it since.
I'm not sure that same logic would apply to teenage boys, but then again they are few and far between at any place I have ever been.
And to Freckles point, have I been aroused while nude at a resort? Sure, but not so much that I lose all control and my body gears up for penetration.
Look, I'm not saying erections are bad or shameful or something to be hidden or banished, heck, I'm quite fond of mine. I'm simply concurring with GW and NIB that it truly is a non issue to nudists. Roll-over, cover-up, stay in the water, problem solved!
Cheers!
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Posted - 11/01/2008 : 01:54:12 AM
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If it's so mundane and boring and limp and uninteresting and not worth anybody's attention, then why do any of you visit nude venues? Must like a boring life, huh?
Once again the talk don't match the walk.
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thornapplebison
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Posted - 11/01/2008 : 04:53:53 AM
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hardboy, you'd just have to go to a family resort and experience it for yourself.
You've got great-grandparents, grandparents, parents and children all together. There's a social order. There are boundaries, as in any human society. There are people in charge. It's not an anything-goes environment of hedonistic abandon. Everyone's trying to having a nice time, relax and not offend anyone. We're all trying to get along and enjoy each other's presence. We don't even talk much about politics, and when we do, we're careful to agree to disagree when necessary.
It's a nice place to enjoy the sun, air and water and social interaction that has nothing to do with how much money you make or what position you occupy in the social structure of the clothed world.
This is something that would be very surprising to non-nudists about nudism: exposing ourselves and seeing others exposed has nothing to do with why we enjoy it. Being accepted for who we really are, without artiface, without embarrassment or apologies is (for me, at least, and many others that I know) the greatest pleasure of nudism.
Because I am not a pervert nor someone obsessed with sexual conquest, I do not get aroused in public.
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nudeisbetter
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Posted - 11/01/2008 : 06:47:07 AM
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If it's so mundane and boring and limp and uninteresting and not worth anybody's attention, then why do any of you visit nude venues? Must like a boring life, huh?
Once again the talk don't match the walk.
I don't think you're getting the point - might be on the wrong website. Or trolling.
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