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pilot
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 Posted - 01/08/2004 : 12:12:34 AM
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One of the planks of the organized nudism platform is "Body Acceptance". In fact, The Naturist Society uses the phrase "Body Acceptance" in its tagline.
The current issue of AANR's Buletin includes an article entitled, "The Skinny on Fat" in which a fitness specialist discusses the epidemic of obesity. The article is factual, accurate and makes no reference to nudism. Yet its inclusion in a nudist publication would seem to be a signal event. The pages of AANR's Bulletin and the TNS publication N--as well as some of the photos on this website--disclose a range of body types and reveal a significant number of overweight and even obviously obese people.
Here's the question: if body acceptance is a guiding principle of nudism, is there a place for discussion of obesity (or plastic and reconstructive surgery, or anything that has to do with body appearance)in official publications? Or are such discussions so politically incorrect that they should be off-limits?
I have strong personal feelings on this point, but I am curious to know how others feel.
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cheef
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Posted - 01/08/2004 : 12:42:20 AM
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I think such discussions have as much of a place in the Bulletin as any other discussion. However, note that obesity is not merely an appearance issue... it is a health issue.
I think that a discussion of "fighting fat" for health reasons is a great idea. However, I would hope that we wouldn't focus on obesity without also acknowledging the health problems associated with smoking, consumption of large amounts of alcohol, having a large number of sexual partners, working high-stress jobs, etc.
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nudetoo
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Posted - 01/08/2004 : 12:58:45 AM
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As a health related issue obesity should be a topic for discussion, Obesity is hard on a body and can lead to related illnesses,but not as a appearance issue.
Just me, Willy
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Kimberly
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Posted - 01/08/2004 : 02:31:43 AM
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Not only should weight loss and obesity be discussed, but also physical fitness and proper nutrition. Obesity leads to heart disease, diabetes, and cancer. I have noticed at the club there is a group that tends to just sit around and drink beer and watch other people, and yes they are over weight. I feel people should get out in the fresh air, get involved in swimming, playing volleyball, getting the right exercise, and eating properly. I think this way they will not only feel better about themselves, but better enjoy the nudist lifestyle.
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 01/08/2004 : 06:00:52 AM
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My line of thought has always been: Yes, we should accept the way we are, but do we have to be content with it? I think not. People should always, in my opinion, strive to improve in all we do and are, to the best of our ability. That goes for faith, love, knowledge, work, play, self, everything.
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melissastarr
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Posted - 01/08/2004 : 06:39:09 AM
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I think nudism should talk about obesity in regards to health. A recent article identified the changing face of nudism as they showed nudist activities past and present. In the past nudists were very active: swimming, running, hiking, climbing, etc. Nowadays nudists are far less active in their activities: sunbathing, sitting in the hot tub, and drinking beer as they sit around talking. There is definitely a place for more sedate activities (esp. hot tubs!!!) but we need to remember the active activities that keep us fit and healthy.
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Tweety
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Posted - 01/08/2004 : 06:58:54 AM
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Obesity is an on going problem in all sectors of our society, nudists are no exceptions. Nowadays all people are far less active then they used to be. Just goes to show that we are as normal as everyone else in our changing world.
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cheef
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Posted - 01/08/2004 : 1:23:32 PM
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Originally posted by melissastarr
There is definitely a place for more sedate activities (esp. hot tubs!!!)
Amen!
And I'd like to add that that place is at the center of nearly every nudist activity! (not that I have a preference or anything)
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Admin
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Posted - 01/08/2004 : 4:51:49 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by pilot
Here's the question: if body acceptance is a guiding principle of nudism, is there a place for discussion of obesity (or plastic and reconstructive surgery, or anything that has to do with body appearance)in official publications? Or are such discussions so politically incorrect that they should be off-limits?
In my opinion, discussions about obesity, plastic and reconstructive surgery, tattoos, body piercings, pubic hair styles, unwanted erections, sunburn, surgical scars and swingers are on topic for a nudist forum, since each is liable to appear a bit more often in a nudist environment, and some require a bit of explanation for newbies. I'm sure you can (and will!) think of more examples...
Of course, we wouldn't want to waste our reader's time with discussions not related to nudism. Each of the above topics would still have to relate to nudism and the nudist experience, or it could become off-topic.
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Cheri
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Posted - 01/08/2004 : 8:21:34 PM
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forgive this off the cuff and off topic statement, but I couldn't help it... my husband states that he's accepted his body so much that he's added to it.
:) Cheri
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melissastarr
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Posted - 01/08/2004 : 8:34:33 PM
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With your help, so did I, mom! Do you really want to know how much I added to me since November? Yikes! Slim-fast, here I come!
Melissa
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CoolNude72
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Posted - 01/08/2004 : 9:17:04 PM
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This is a very important topic to me. I myself am not obese, but I have a family member very close to me that I love dearly that is obese. She is my older sister and has been overweight for as long as I can remember. She is about to turn 38 yrs old and I am afraid she is running out of time.  It hurts me terribly. Obesity is a serious problem in America especially. One thing I have learned with her is you cannot push her into trying something. In other words, give her suggestions on what to try to help her become healthy again. She has to do things for herself. Believe me, trying to get physically healthy is not an easy thing to do at all. It takes a lot of time and determination and it can become very frustrating. She has tried many things to help her lose weight and it has not worked. I can remember when I was younger how hard she tried. As far as why they didnt work, I couldnt tell you because I am not there by her side anymore. She lives very far from me now and I only get to see her a couple times a year. Each time I do see her, I feel worse because I feel so helpless in not being able to help her. Last couple years I have noticed she has a lot harder time walking. I have also noticed she is losing breath a lot more often, and quite frankly it scares me. Only thing I can do is smile and spend as much time with her as I can and tell her I love her very much. Because right now that is all I can give. Every decision she makes for herself I always support her 100 percent because she is my sister and nothing with ever change that. I just wish that I could express the pain I have for her without pushing her in the wrong direction or making her feel guilty and upset. Thanx for listening.
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pilot
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Posted - 01/08/2004 : 10:43:33 PM
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Thanks to all who responded. Both the serious comments and the humorous ones were well received. I said I had some personal biases...
1. The obesity epidemic is perhaps the single greatest threat to the health of the nation. The Surgeon General says so, and I agree.
2. There is no one cause for this epidemic. It is the accumulated effects of dietary changes (from high fructose corn syrup to the substitution of platters for 10" dinner plates), lifestyle changes (recreation = video games), urban non-planning (people drive rather than walk 0.1 mile), disappearance of Phys Ed from school curricula and much more.
3. Overweight and even obese people can have high levels of fitness. Slender people can be markedly unfit. These are exceptions, but they are real. A commitment to fitness is always possible irrespective of body habitus.
4. The NR in AANR stands for Nude Recreation. The serenity of the hot tub and the tranqulitity of petanque ought to be counterbalanced by opportunities and encouragement of more vigorous forms of recreation. it is the combination that speaks best to Mens sana in corpora sano
5. Perhaps AANR might carefully survey and systematically report on the fitness facilities and activities at each club/resort. Such information is widely reported and readily available for textiled destinations.
Just some thoughts and biases.
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Tweety
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Posted - 01/09/2004 : 05:56:58 AM
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At the club that we belonged to there is a tennis court and a sand volleyball court sadly rarly used. Some week-ends it was hard to get a water volleyball game going. In our busy lives a lot of people would get to the club and just want to relax from the stress of the week.
Tweety
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