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melissastarr
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Posted - 01/09/2004 : 06:28:49 AM
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The obesity epidemic is certainly startling to me as a teacher. Lunch is in our classrooms right now as there is some structural damage being fixed in the cafeteria/ drama building so I see the kids lunches each day. Many of them have a big bag of chips and a 1 liter Pepsi for lunch. Others have nothing at all. Still others get the school lunch (which is NASTY) and provide their own soda and candy to go with it. About half my class gets the school lunch, which comes with milk, yet I've seen only 1 student drink the milk. Every child in the class has a soda with them each day. I drink diet orange soda with my lunch as it has no caffeine or sugar, but these kids are drinking HUGE bottles of caffeine/ sugar which probably explains why they're nuts by 2:00. Also, since my kids are the 'smart kids' in our school (those whose abilities lie within a year of their grade level) they receive spanish every day but don't and won't ever receive gym class (or music, drama, and computer, for that matter.) And people wonder why so many of my kids are overweight????
Melissa
ps to Cheef- yeah, I have to stop eating that calamari... such a heartache to say good-bye to it, though!
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Kimberly
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 Posted - 01/12/2004 : 05:05:40 AM
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It comes with our times. Fast food is convienient. One of my kids friends thought I was crazy because I cooked meals. It is not any harder to cook lean, nutricious meals than it is too cook fattening good tasting meals.  We were watching TV tonight and they were showing the junk food machines in US high Schools. The program said most kids eat from those than from hot lunches. There was a report saying that kids are drinking the 32 oz and 48 oz sodas now and that it contributing to the kids being over weight. The nice thing about nudism, is it encourages you to be outside, and exercising, swimming, volleyball etc.
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cheef
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 11:17:36 PM
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Originally posted by Kimberly
It is not any harder to cook lean, nutricious meals than it is too cook fattening good tasting meals.
But I want lean, nutritious meals that TASTE like fattening, good-tasting meals!
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pilot
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Posted - 01/13/2004 : 01:28:11 AM
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Cheef has indirectly made a critical point. There is a principle called allostasis that few are aware of but plays an important role in the regulation of many biological processes. The basic idea is that sensors (think taste, or organ perfusion, or light hitting the eye) tune themselves to the range of expected stimuli. This if one takes a pleasureable "treat" and makes it a daily staple of one's diet, it soon ceases to feel like a pleasureable "treat". Such allostatic "recalibration" probably plays a role in a range of addictions. This suggests why "going on a diet"--a sudden change of eating habits--fails as often as it does. It is the equivalent of going "cold turkey" for a smoker. The more durable diet modifications often involve slow and graded substitutions of less fatty, "healthier" foods until one is weaned off the steady inflow of packaged, sweetened goods. It doesn't mean one can't have "cheats" and "treats" in the diet. But it does mean that they have to feel like treats.
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melissastarr
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Posted - 01/13/2004 : 06:19:48 AM
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Any diet that doesn't allow cheesesteaks is a no-no for me because I NEED cheesesteaks to sustain life. I'm all for moderation right now- I can have any food I want as long as I eat it in moderation. This means I can have cheesesteaks, but I only need to eat 1/4 to 1/2 of a cheesesteak and I really don't need to eat one every night. If I deprive myself of the stuff I love I won't stay on the diet and I'll probably overdose on the good stuff when I can't tolerate the loss any longer.
Melissa
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Kimberly
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Posted - 01/13/2004 : 07:27:29 AM
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You just have to exercise twice as long Melissa.
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randynkim
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Posted - 01/15/2004 : 2:40:42 PM
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hi,
my name is randy.....my wife(kim) and and i often disscuss the difference in the way school kids look compared to when we were in school.when we were in school you only had 2 or 3 overweight kids in in entire school. now it seems just the opposite. we also feel there are many factors causing this. soft drink and candy machines in the schools,kids playing video games instead of running and playing,both parents working leaving the kids to eat junk food.(not to step on the toes of working parents we both work) anyway just our thoughts
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Revilo42
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Posted - 01/15/2004 : 4:22:26 PM
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When I moved to the U.S. from England and a year in Denmark, I started gaining weight rapidly (about 20 lb in few months). There were two major changes in my living habits - eating at the firm's cafeteria (rather than my wife cooking lunch), and no longer using foot or bicycle as a primary means of transport. By changing to taking an apple for lunch, I have kept my weight stable for the last fifteen years. I'm sure that yard work, fence and shed building and swimming in our pool help too.
In the U.S., it is not just a preference to travel by car - town planners make it necessary. I was surprised that many town streets don't have sidewalks and zoning restrictions encourage drunk driving by ensuring that it is impossible to walk home from your neighborhood pub. The ubiquitous yellow school bus also seems to be an american invention that reduces the "trivial" excercise of walking to school, by allowing schools to grow to have catchment areas defined by bus routes rather than primarily by walking or bicycling distances. More teenagers drive both because of general U.S. prosperity and for policy reasons: younger minimum driving ages, simple driving tests (I was not unusual in only passing my hour long UK driving test on the fourth attempt!) and minimal annual inspections and low gasolene taxes making cars inexpensive.
Sorry to get off the subject. We're eating hamburgers tonight, but my wife uses ground lean chuck (I'm lucky she works at home only), so I will be keeping to my diet.
Cheers!
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Kimberly
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Posted - 01/15/2004 : 7:04:31 PM
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I think it is convieniance. We want to get where we want to go in a hurry, so we take a car. It's easier to to pick up a pizza after work than to cook. We watch more TV so its easier to snack. We have so much and so many choices of what to eat, that we eat what we want, and all we want. We have so much that we spend more on trying to loose weight than we do on food. Look at all the ads on TV about food that encourages you to eat the wrong things. No wonder heart disease, cancer, and diabetes are our leading causes of death.
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pilot
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 04:16:13 AM
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There is a fascinating book entitled "Fat Land" by Greg Critser that was published a couple of years ago. Critser is a journalist who himself was obese and explored the issues that randynkim and oliver have touched on, namely what happened especially to school age kids. Critser's research picked up three basic threads.
1. When Earl Butz was Secretary of Agriculture, food was prohibitively expensive in the US and the President directed him to find ways to reduce costs. There were several unhealthy decisions made, but the one that persists to this day is the adoption of high fructose corn syrup as the "Universal Sweetener" in processed foods. It is differently metabolized than cane sugar and one of the effects is the accumulation fat (which can be made from carbohydrates).
2. Once food became cheap and plentiful, the fast food folks had a problem--they had to find a way to get people to eat more because the population was not growing fast enough to absorb the excess production. Two responses persist to this day--the "combo meal" and the "super size". The combo meal is a reflection that profits on the burger are razor thin, but the profits on the fries and soda are astronomical. So the "bundled meal" was born. The super-size thing came from movie theatre popcorn and adopted even through the scepticism of Ray Kroc, Mc Donald's founder. Success? Today's average McD meal has 3X the calories of the McD meal of 1960.
3. The third problem was the echo of the baby boom (kids of baby boomers, or the "baby boomlet"). Schools ran out of money and capacity and responded in two ways. First, Phys Ed became optional or eliminated altogether as a nonacademic frill. Second, it was possible for schools to invite vendors in and reduce their outlays for school lunches--if a kid purchased a pizza hut pizza, he need not be fed the school lunch. Coincidentally, the Pizza Hut personal pizza has exactly double the calories of the USDA approved school lunch pizza slice.
Put all three of these together, says Critser, and what you have is the obesity epidemic rising through our schools and beyond.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 05:05:42 AM
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Pilot that makes sence to me. When I was growing up, I had a stay at home mother that prepared all our meals. We were all limited to the amount of sweets, sodas, and junk food that we could have. Physical exercise was manditory in school as part of a well balanced education. We had hot lunches in school, and there were not any soda machines or snack machines.
I notice that MickeyD's and other vendors are now getting on the Adkins band waggon and and offering their versions, like "McAdkins" etc.
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Tweety
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 07:40:01 AM
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Just saw that Burger King has jumped on the band wagon with a bunless Whopper.
As for school children I too have noticed that many more children are over weight. But I have also had the opportunity to eat the so called hot lunches at school, I can fully understand why the children hit the snack and soda machines. The milk is often sour and the food is tasteless.
Talking to other parents I have heard them say they have to make the children go out and play.My response to this has been take the TV and video games out of their rooms give them out-side toys. Or better yet go out and play with your children.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 07:52:31 AM
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I agree with you Tweety, you have good points, but there are not that many stay at home moms any more. It has been raining here since the first of January, hard for the kids to go out and play. I do agree with you about limiting the TV and video games, but some parents use that as a baby sitter, or to keep the kids out of their hair. My kids will not eat school lunches, they call the MRE's (Meals Rejected by Eithopians). I make my kids lunches to take to school. My kids are active in sports, the boys are in hockey, my daughter is in lacrosse and soccer, and they all three ski. I know that all parents do not have the time and money to see that there kids are active physically. One of the reasons why some many impoverished people are over weight is the diet that is available to them. High fat high carbohydrate foods are readily accessable and inexpensive.
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Tweety
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Posted - 01/16/2004 : 08:25:03 AM
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Kimberly I know you are right. I have been lucky to be a STAY AT HOME MOM it was a choice we made when our children were young and that was many many years ago. Now we are raising our 5 year old grandson and it seems that not much has changed. No matter if both parents work or there is only one parent working or just one parent in the home, our children are our future and we must make time for them. I hate hearing a parent say go watch tv. Wouldn't it be easier to say go out and play. I was raised in Michigan and playing in the rain or snow was the norm LOL. My husband worked 12 hours a day 7 days a week for most of the time our children were growing up but I can remember him always playing with the kids even though I know he was bone tired. As for money physical activity doesn't have to cost money. Just the other night I watched my 5 yr old and a friend just rolling in the grass like 2 puppies . They would stop and laugh and start all over again. Most parks and play grounds are free too, take an hour and go swing or slide with the kids. The kids benifit and so do the parents.
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