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irishred
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Posted - 03/19/2004 : 11:05:16 AM
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NYnudistcpl, thanks for the clarification.
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Bikeracer
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Posted - 03/20/2004 : 08:47:06 AM
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With Olive branch in hand, I question the reason/symbolism of women wearing toga's with one breast bared...Gee, it's all foreign to me!
Signed, The slipping Avon one
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sailordave
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Posted - 03/20/2004 : 09:06:29 AM
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It's hard for some to accept their body as it is even when others tell them they look nice. For some reason, they only see what they feel are imperfections. Contrast that with those of use who have a real flaw and just shrug it off. Sure, things will happen that may make us once again think about the flaw that may have caused us emotional trama as a kid in school, but we're more easily able to move on with our lives. In my case it's my right foot. It turns outward and makes for a very funny walk. Still have a belly I want to reduce in size, but I don't obsess about it. Think about celebrities and models that are so obsessive with their physical appearance that they are constantly under the knife and needle.
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Cheri
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Posted - 03/20/2004 : 11:04:11 AM
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Bikeracer/NYnudistcpl, I've never heard about that state of (un)dress at the original olympics. I would love to read where it is in some authoritative encyclopedia. As far as I've read, queried, researched, I've never seen it written that women competed in Olympics in the beginning, let alone dressed with a breast exposed. The Greeks were much more modest than the Romans in Ancient times. I'm not sure if the Romans were more comfortable with their forms than the Greeks or if it was something else.
Best regards, Cheri
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 03/20/2004 : 4:32:32 PM
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All I've ever heard was that the original Olympics consisted of just a few games that were meant to demonstrate and practice war skills. Games like Greco-Roman Wrestling, Javelin Throw, etc. Hence, all male, all nude, (and to the death-some of the games or all?). It was on the History Channel or something like that. I'm not sure about any other details, or how the games evolved, but I'm sure there are a lot of things I've never heard.
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nynudistcpl
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Posted - 03/20/2004 : 5:26:40 PM
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Cheri,
Try, www.fjkluth.com/olympic.html, www.newhouse.com/archive/story1a091500.html, and homel.gte.net/pjbemail/downloads.html.These are a few sites that answer many of the questions regarding nudity and tunics in Ancient Greece. I know that one article I read thoeorized that the exposed breast started in Sparta for practicality for war. With a tunic open on one side, It left the arm free to enable a warrior to draw a bow or sword.
Hope these help you out, I'll look for more.
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nynudistcpl
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Posted - 03/20/2004 : 5:30:04 PM
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sorry those links won't work. Try www.fjkluth.com
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Cheri
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Posted - 03/20/2004 : 5:41:28 PM
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NYnudistcouple, I think you've confused the the Heraea Games (strictly for women and at a separate time) than the actual Olympics.
Regards, Cheri
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nynudistcpl
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Posted - 03/20/2004 : 6:08:54 PM
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Cheri, You're absolutely right. It was the Hera festival that I read about where they competed with tunics with one breast exposed. I'm always confused!!!! LOL
There was a great article I read from the unniversity of penn that I can't find.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 03/20/2004 : 10:30:28 PM
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The original olympic games men competed clothed. In one of the olympic games a woman competed disguised as a man. She was found out, and after that the men had to compete in the nude. Women were not allowed to attend the olympic games.
Wall paintings were uncovered in Crete that showed the style of dress in Crete during Helenistic times. Women wore a style of dress that had the breasts exposed.
I think what nynudistcpl was talking about was the Amazon legends. Amazons were a warrior female group, and were supposed to have had the right breast either removed or uncovered so they could draw a bow.
Kim =^.^=
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sailordave
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Posted - 03/21/2004 : 05:45:31 AM
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Actually Kim, saw the documentary on the Spartans. Their women were trained warriors. Even ancient Greek descriptions of the women of Sparta described their muscular legs and buttocks. That was a strange society. Boys were taken away from their mothers to begin their training. The men and women lived separately even when married. Their society's downfall came because of their extreme selective breeding (would kill babies deemed unworthy and many boys died in training alone), closed minded to new fighting styles and weapons, and their taking of slaves other Greek people. Mind you, the Greeks of other places didn't mind the taking of slaves, just not the taking of other Greeks as slaves.
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pilot
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Posted - 03/21/2004 : 8:03:43 PM
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An interesting and sophisticated exchange of comments. Assuage my curiosity:
Kimberly and nynudistcpl, what do you do in your lives when not logged on here?
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sea foam
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Posted - 03/21/2004 : 11:39:27 PM
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If I may....
Just want to duck in with a quick note about weight loss (sorry to interrupt the Olympic flow). My wife and I are going to St. Martin in May and we decided to lose some weight before we walk out on Orient Beach. (Actually, I've been trying to lose weight off and on for two years, but it keeps finding me.) We went on a simple calorie diet in January, and we've both lost nearly 30 pounds. We walk two miles in the morning and two miles at night (now that it's not painful), and today I ran a 20K race (12.6 miles, just shy of a half-marathon) for the first time ever. I clocked a 1:59, which averages out to 9.5-minute miles over the distance. Hey, it won't win any awards, but there was a time when I couldn't WALK that far.
Moral of the story: It can be done! Woohoo!
-- sea foam
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 02:15:39 AM
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Good for you SeaFoam! Keep up the good work. That's what makes for success.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 02:49:19 AM
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I know you are proud of your accomplishment seafoam, you will probably enjoy the beach now with more self confidence.
Kim =^.^=
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